Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Oh Hell, I Just Got Glutened


Mack the Knife

Recommended Posts

Mack the Knife Explorer

Tonight I went out to dinner with a friend. We went to a restaurant where I often eat and have never had a problem. The owners really look after Coeliacs, they consulted with a Coeliac specialist when they set up their business, they have a whole separate gluten free menu, bake their own bread and cakes, are aware of cc issues with deep fryers etc. I always feel really safe eating there.

So we arrive and the owner bustles out, gives me a gluten free menu and talks me through the specials board saying you can have this, you can't have that and I'll check with the chef, etc. Then she tells me that there's a lentil soup that's just been made that's not on the specials board yet and I can have that with gluten free bread. I love lentil soup so I order it.

The soup comes out and I tuck in. It's pretty good soup but there's an odd taste.... a famililiar taste. While I'm sitting there trying to place it, I look more closely at my soup and realise that some of the lentils don't look like lentils - they look like grains. In fact they look like..... and then I stopped eating.

Yep. My lentil soup was full of barley. The owner turned white when I asked her about it (desperately hoping I was mistaken) and whisked it away. She was really, profoundly apologetic, gave me another meal and didn't charge me for anything. She was very upset. She actually knew it had barley in it but didn't connect it to gluten for some reason. I guess we all have days when we miss the obvious. But damn...

So now I'm sitting here feeling like a ticking time bomb wondering when I'm going to get sick. Or even if. I was only diagnosed five months ago and have been super careful. This is the first time I have definitely eaten gluten so I really don't know how I am going to react.

Anyway, I guess the moral is that you have to look after yourself. Even though I was at a place that really caters for Coeliacs, I should have questioned the specials more carefully. It's best to treat everything suspiciously.

I'll let you know how I go. Sigh.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



tictax707 Apprentice

ooooh I am so so sorry to hear about this. :o But here are two thoughts for you: 1. I had a similar experience once before but the offending ingredient was soy sauce. I flipped the hell out. i was not as calm seeming as you. I did not take it out on the staff but was in my own private panic. Tried to induce vomiting, (have no idea how bulemics do it) no such luck. Ultimately though, nothing really happened. 2. At the celiac conference here in LA a few weeks ago, one of the speakers (a leading doctor specializing in celiac disease) mentioned that often times when we ingest gluten we actually don't get any symptoms. Very surprising to me, but maybe it will give you a ray of hope/optimism that this will pass with few bumps... I'll cross my fingers for you!!

Ahorsesoul Enthusiast

This place is trying so hard I certainly would not me mad at them. Upset, that I was going to get sick but not mad. They are probably still having nightmares about a lawsuit. I would eat there again. But it does show that even people who have been educated in what has gluten will forgot something once in awhile.

Skylark Collaborator

I hope you don't get too sick. :( It's so frustrating when you ask all the right questions, and something still goes wrong. I'm glad to hear the owner was apologetic and has some understanding of what she has done to you.

LoraW76 Rookie

Sorry to hear about this. I have eaten at a local mexican restaurant where I live and no matter what, I always question the waiter as to whether or not my corn tortillas are actually corn. It'll give me a panic attack to eat out at times. I have had an extensive conversation w/ the pwner about celiac and a manager has a wife w/ celiac. I also find that I have dreams where I am eating gluten and I freak out! I try to vomit in my dreams as well. :) No one understand like we do.

Mack the Knife Explorer

Well, it hasn't been too bad. About 18 hours after eating the soup I developed a headache (very unusual for me) which continued all night. I completely lost my appetite, got really tired and couldn't keep my eyes open. So I went to bed but couldn't sleep. So I lay awake for hours feeling simultaneously exhausted and wired.

This morning I still have a slight headache and no appetite. I'm very constipated but that's really normal for me these days. Otherwise my stomach is ok.

So that's good but I'm a bit concerned that I don't have clearer cut symptoms of being glutened. I get symtoms like these very regularly despite being strictly gluten free.

I was diagnosed five months ago and the exhaustion and constant low grade digestive issues haven't improved much. So now I'm wondering if I'm still being exposed to gluten somewhere. I'm getting the Coeliac serology tests redone and another biopsy so I should know soon.

modiddly16 Enthusiast

SOOO many people are going to jump on me for doing/saying this...but...when I knowingly get glutened, sometimes I take a laxative to work it more quickly out of my system. Mind you, I've been gluten free for almost 7 years so I rarely get glutened but it does happen. I wouldn't recommend you taking a laxative every time you get glutened if it happens once a week. This probably isn't the most health conscious thing to do, however, my doctor said its not damaging in moderation and helps lessen the reaction to the gluten. Not to say I always know when I get glutened or that it helps the reaction at all but it does push everything out of your system in a more timely fashion.

I'm prepared for the onslaught of horrors coming my way from the board members, but I stand by my methods :rolleyes::blink:


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      129,960
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    PMcCauley
    Newest Member
    PMcCauley
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.3k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Wheatwacked
      Hello @CeliacNew, If you are Vegan to help you feel better, reconsider returning to omnivore.  Actually, since you are already on a very restrictive diet, transitioning to gluten free might be easier for you.  Read the ingredient labels, Particularly vitamin D and Choline require supplements for vegan diet because our primary source is sun, eggs and beef.  B12 also.
    • Wheatwacked
      Once you've completed testing and still don't have improvement, start a trial gluten free diet.  Looking for imprvement that may indicate Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity, which is 10 times more prevalent than Celiac Disease. Deficiencies in vitamins B6, B12, D, and C can manifest as skin rashes.  Virtual guaranty you are deficient in vitamin D.
    • cameo674
      So those rs numbers tell researchers where the dbSNP is located in a Genome so that other reasearchers or an AI system can look in that specific spot for that Snip of information.  You can look those rs # s by pasting the numbers after rs into the lookup on this page https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/snp/ right under the Blue header bar at the top of the webpage.  Since you are not a researcher, I do not know how this will help you though.
    • cameo674
      So I posted here once before, and everyone advocated that I get into a GI doc.  I finally got into my functional health appointment on 6/16 to get my blood results evaluated and get the Gastro referral. I was told that I would be fortunate to see a gastro doctor by December, because of the number of people waiting to get in, but they did believe that I needed to see a GI doc among others.  Well, the stars aligned. I got home. I looked at MyChart and it showed an appointment available for later that same day. I never clicked so fast on an appointment time. The gastro doc ran some additional blood work based off the December values that had confirmed my daughter's suspicion that I have undiagnosed stomach issues.  Gastro has also scheduled me to get an upper endoscopy as well as a colonoscopy since it has been 8 years since my last one. She said it would rule out other concerns if I did not show Celiac per the biopsies.  Those biopsies will not occur until August 29th and like everyone here stated, Gastro wants me to keep gluten in my diet exactly as everyone suggested. To be honest, I was barely eating any gluten since I figured I would have plenty of time to do so before testing.  Doc is also looking for the cause of the low level heartburn that I have had for 30 years.  I have mentioned the heartburn to PCPs in the past and they always said take a tums or other OTC drug.  The upper endoscopy is for ruling out eosinphilic esophagitis, h. pylori, and to biopsy the duodenal bulb and second portion to confirm or exclude celiac. The colonoscopy will have random biopsies to rule out microscopic colitis. I didn't really catch her reasoning for the bloodwork.  Doc looked at the December numbers and said they were definitely concerning for Celiac.  She also said, “Hmm that’s odd; usually it’s the reverse”, but I did not catch which result made her say that. She seems very through.  She also asked why I had never bothered to see a GI before.  To be honest, I told her I just assumed that the heartburn and loose stool were a part of aging.  I have been gassy since I was born and thought constantly passing gas was normal?  Everyone I know with Celiac have horrible symptoms that cannot be attributed to other things.  They are in a lot of stomach pain.  I do not go through that.  I attribute my issues to the lactose intolerance that comes with aging, but have slowly been eliminating foods from my diet due to the heartburn or due my assumption that they did not agree with a medication that I was prescribed. I have already eliminated milk products especially high fat ones like ice cream; fats like peanut butter; acids like citrus and tomatoes; chocolate in all forms; and breads more because it is so hard to get in 100 grams of protein if I eat any foods that are not a protein.  I would not have even done the testing if my daughter had not brought up the fact that she thought I might have an undiagnosed condition since she has issues with bloating and another sibling has periodic undiagnosed stomach pain that GI docs throw pills at instead of helping.  Who knew that Bristol scale 5 and 6 were not considered normal especially multiple times a day? I watched my MIL go through basically the same bowel changes starting at 50 so to be honest, I really did think it was normal before this week's appointment.   December 2024's blood tests ran through Quest Labs were:  Deamidated Gliadin (IgA) 53.8 U/mL Above range >15.0 U/mL; Deamidated Gliadin (IgG) >250.0 U/mL Above Range >15.0 U/mL; Tissue Transglutaminase (IgA) 44.0 U/mL Above range >15.0 U/mL; Tissue Transglutaminase (IgG) <1.0 In range <15.0; Immunoglobulin A (IgA) 274 mg/dL In range 47-310 mg/dL 6/16/25 bloodwork:  Until today, I did not really know what all the four tubes of blood were for and since I did not understand the results, I got into the clinical notes to see what was ordered, but it did not exactly explain why for everything. Immunoglobulins IGG, IGA, IGM all came back in range:  IGG 1,010 mg/dL In range 600-1,714; IgA 261 mg/dL In range 66-433 mg/dL; IGM 189 mg/dL In range 45-281.  How do these numbers help with diagnosis? Google says she checked these to see if I have an ongoing infection? I do have Hashimoto's and she did say once you have one autoimmune disease others seem to follow. Celiac Associated HLD-DQ Typing: DQA1* Value: 05; DQA1*DQA11 Value: 05; DQB1* Value: 02; DQB1-DQB11 Value: 02; Celiac Gene Pairs Present Value: Yes; Celiac HLA Interpretation Value: These genes are permissive for celiac disease.  However, these genes can also be present in the normal population. Testing performed by SSOP.  So google failed me.  I think these results basically say I have genes, but everybody has these genes so this test was just to confirm that there is a vague possibility?  Maybe this test result explains why I do not have the horrible symptoms most individuals with celiac have?  I told the GI my assumption is that I am just gluten intolerant since I do not have the pain? So maybe this test explains why I have antibodies? Comprehensive Metabolic Panel: Everything was in the middle of the normal range.  Google says this just says I am metabolically healthy. Tissue Transglutaminase ABS test results – Done by the Mayo Clinic’s Labs –  T-Transglutaminase IGA AB --Value: 3.1 U/mL – Normal Value is <4.0 (negative) U/mL; Tissue Transglutaminase, IgG -- Value: 15.3 U/mL High -- Normal Value is <6.0 (Negative) U/mL – Interpretation Positive (>9.0) – These are the only labs the GI did that have been labeled Abnormal.  I am confused at how/why these came back different than the December labs? Because these numbers seem to be the opposite of what the were in December and I know I have eaten less gluten.  They were definitely measured differently and had different ranges. This must be why she said they are usually opposite? Molecular Stool Parasite Panel said I was Negative for Giardia Lamblia by PCR; Entamoeba Histolytica by PCR and Cryptosporidium Parvum/Hominis by PCR.  So at least I do not need to do a parasite cleanse like everyone on TikTok seems to be doing. So I guess, I am just really asking why the Tissue Transglutaminase numbers are different.  Was it because they were truly different tests? Is it because I have not consumed the crazy amount of gluten one is suppose to eat prior to testing? To be honest, I thought that was only for the biopsy testing. I generally only eat twice a day, and the thought of eating the equivalent of 6 slices of bread is daunting. Even in my youth, I probably only consumed the equivalent of maybe 3 slices a day. Like I said before, now I usually focus on trying to eat 60 gram of protein.  I am suppose to consume 100 grams, but have failed to succeed. I will focus on eating gluten starting in July now that I know my procedure date.
    • Scott Adams
      I agree with @trents and wiping down the spot you eat your lunch, and eating the food your brought from home should be safe for even sensitive celiacs. Gluten can jump on your food, so it would likely better better for you to continue eating where you prefer.
×
×
  • Create New...