Gluten In Peppercorns?

[kwylee]

Just five weeks into my gluten free lifestyle and I am dedicated. I've read here that beef should not contain gluten so I am thinking it was the peppercorns that were cooked on it, because last night, within 10 minutes of eating london broil (fairly tenderized due to an hour long simmer a beef stock I have eaten w/no problem), I got that "feeling", like the room was starting a spin. I know that sensation very well, as I am lucky enough to experience a mini version of my worse symptom within 10 minutes of eating an offending food, so I know almost immediately.

This was the first time I've tried beef since I started feeling good a week ago. Before then, I was able to add chicken and even pork chop to my eating repertoire, so I didn't expect a problem with beef. But when I took the first bite, my husband confirmed that he had added some coursely ground peppercorns, thinking that would be OK. I went ahead and ingested about an ounce (always slow going when I try a new food - and usually only add one food at a time, but - oh, well!)

And this turned out to be a big event, because while I'll get dizzy immediately, it settles down until a number of hours later, usually when I am sleeping, that I get a more pronounced neuro reaction, and that's what happened overnight. My sweet hubby felt terrible and I had to reassure him this was not his fault, that I am in control of what I put in my mouth.

But now I am unsure, was it the beef? The peppercorns? And/or the fact that my system may still be healing although my stomach and intestines feel just fine, could I still be healing there and that is why I had trouble? I really want to eat beef in the future. Hope it is the latter. I can live my life without peppercorns!

[Northern Celiac]

Just five weeks into my gluten free lifestyle and I am dedicated. I've read here that beef should not contain gluten so I am thinking it was the peppercorns that were cooked on it, because last night, within 10 minutes of eating london broil (fairly tenderized due to an hour long simmer a beef stock I have eaten w/no problem), I got that "feeling", like the room was starting a spin. I know that sensation very well, as I am lucky enough to experience a mini version of my worse symptom within 10 minutes of eating an offending food, so I know almost immediately.

This was the first time I've tried beef since I started feeling good a week ago. Before then, I was able to add chicken and even pork chop to my eating repertoire, so I didn't expect a problem with beef. But when I took the first bite, my husband confirmed that he had added some coursely ground peppercorns, thinking that would be OK. I went ahead and ingested about an ounce (always slow going when I try a new food - and usually only add one food at a time, but - oh, well!)

And this turned out to be a big event, because while I'll get dizzy immediately, it settles down until a number of hours later, usually when I am sleeping, that I get a more pronounced neuro reaction, and that's what happened overnight. My sweet hubby felt terrible and I had to reassure him this was not his fault, that I am in control of what I put in my mouth.

But now I am unsure, was it the beef? The peppercorns? And/or the fact that my system may still be healing although my stomach and intestines feel just fine, could I still be healing there and that is why I had trouble? I really want to eat beef in the future. Hope it is the latter. I can live my life without peppercorns!

I use peppercorns all the time in my gluten-free cooking. I don't think thats your problem, depending on the restuarant cross contamination is prolly your problem

[gabby]

I seem to remember a couple months back something about a recall on peppercorns. Can't remember the details exactly, but it should still be in the FDA Recall database...just go to this link and have a read through the recalls to see if anything comes up for you. Or do a search on their site for peppercorns. It is a good place to check regularly for recalls. When a food processor picks up on something going wrong...it gets posted on this website and may or may not make it to the newspapers.

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Hope that helps.

[kwylee]

I use peppercorns all the time in my gluten-free cooking. I don't think thats your problem, depending on the restuarant cross contamination is prolly your problem

This meal was prepared at home. I only wish I could consider eating out after 5 weeks gluten-free/CF. Now it's becoming a bit of a mystery. Perhaps the brand I am ingested, it's an off brand (they don't have a website, I checked) and maybe there was some cross contamination, or maybe I just tried beef too soon. Errrrr, so frustrating, and now I'll feel a bit woozy all day at work. That's the worst.

[poopedout]

Just five weeks into my gluten free lifestyle and I am dedicated. I've read here that beef should not contain gluten so I am thinking it was the peppercorns that were cooked on it, because last night, within 10 minutes of eating london broil (fairly tenderized due to an hour long simmer a beef stock I have eaten w/no problem), I got that "feeling", like the room was starting a spin. I know that sensation very well, as I am lucky enough to experience a mini version of my worse symptom within 10 minutes of eating an offending food, so I know almost immediately.

This was the first time I've tried beef since I started feeling good a week ago. Before then, I was able to add chicken and even pork chop to my eating repertoire, so I didn't expect a problem with beef. But when I took the first bite, my husband confirmed that he had added some coursely ground peppercorns, thinking that would be OK. I went ahead and ingested about an ounce (always slow going when I try a new food - and usually only add one food at a time, but - oh, well!)

And this turned out to be a big event, because while I'll get dizzy immediately, it settles down until a number of hours later, usually when I am sleeping, that I get a more pronounced neuro reaction, and that's what happened overnight. My sweet hubby felt terrible and I had to reassure him this was not his fault, that I am in control of what I put in my mouth.

But now I am unsure, was it the beef? The peppercorns? And/or the fact that my system may still be healing although my stomach and intestines feel just fine, could I still be healing there and that is why I had trouble? I really want to eat beef in the future. Hope it is the latter. I can live my life without peppercorns!

What about the beef stock? The tinned ones contain gluten.

[GlutenFreeManna]

Was the pan you used to simmer the beef in one you have been cooking with without problems? If not, could it be cc from the pan? I use peppercorns all the time in my cooking and don't have a problem, but it's possible you are sensitive to them or to the beef. Another thought--how are your peppercorns stored? If you have had them for a while and used them before in cooking, could it be possible that they have been contaminated by a measuring spoon with flour on it? I've heard many people have to get rid of all their open spices because they have likely been contaminated with flour or bread crumbs.

[dilettantesteph]

Either could be contaminated. It depends on how they were handled during processing and packaging.

[Skylark]

My father has a mold allergy, and he is sensitive to black pepper because of how it is made. Could this be your issue?

[jackay]

I tested severely intolerant to beef through blood work. I haven't had beef for about five months. My doctor wants me to wait six months before trying it again so will give it a go in a month.

I cut down to eating just turnips, chicken, olive oil and sea salt. I then slowly added foods one at a time every few days. Once I got up to about fifty foods, I started eating everything except gluten, flax, beef, zucchini and eggs. So far the only foods that I seem to cause problems are venison and cucumbers. I tested moderately intolerant to both of those. I tested severely intolerant to lemons and they aren't causing any problems.

When I had my food intolerance tests done back in December, there were about 70 foods I was suppose to eliminate. I had a hard time giving up beef but now don't miss it at all. I suggest you give up both beef and peppercorns for a while and then give them a try.

[kwylee]

I tested severely intolerant to beef through blood work. I haven't had beef for about five months. My doctor wants me to wait six months before trying it again so will give it a go in a month.

I cut down to eating just turnips, chicken, olive oil and sea salt. I then slowly added foods one at a time every few days. Once I got up to about fifty foods, I started eating everything except gluten, flax, beef, zucchini and eggs. So far the only foods that I seem to cause problems are venison and cucumbers. I tested moderately intolerant to both of those. I tested severely intolerant to lemons and they aren't causing any problems.

When I had my food intolerance tests done back in December, there were about 70 foods I was suppose to eliminate. I had a hard time giving up beef but now don't miss it at all. I suggest you give up both beef and peppercorns for a while and then give them a try.

Oh, yes!!! You are correct about giving up both beef and peppercorns for awhile!

But you know, I was reading another thread on the site that mentioned lectins in food. I had no idea. One of the things I ate last night was a VERY small portion (1/2 of a small red potato - with the skin). I've been ingesting about one of those over the course of each day and seem to tolerate this fine, but prior to this I was not eating the skin, and this one had a couple of sprouts on it before I cooked it. I did a little research, and those who are sensitive to nightshades have EXACTLY the same reaction I do (shakes and involuntary muscle reaction), which I always labeled as "anxiety". Also, the reaction is enhanced by a potato with SPROUTS on it. Mine last night had them, I knocked them off, but ate the skin. Luckily it was just a small portion.

I wonder. Still, not eating beef or peppercorns for awhile. And I will give up all nightshade vegetables until I know for sure.