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Reactions To Distilled Drinks/vinegar?


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anerissara Enthusiast

I know that distilled alcohol and vinegar are supposed to be OK due to the process of distilling (according to a couple of sources) but I think that I *do* get a reaction from them! I was drinking a gin and tonic several nights a week for about a month and had been feeling crummy...not as as crummy as I feel when I get a big dose of gluten but generally just not good. Turns out the gin was made from distilled *grain* :angry: , and when I quit drinking it I felt tons better! I'm pretty sure that I was reacting to it. Any thoughts on whether or not distilled grain causes a reaction? Could it have been something that builds up over time (fine once in awhile but not several times a week)? It's not like I was downing gin by the tankful, we're talking weak gin and tonics here....but it was pretty much the only thing I could find that was suspect. I even called Crest to makes sure it wasn't the toothpase...and it wasn't. Anyone else?


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cdford Contributor

Different people can react to different things even when gluten is not an issue. I can buy gluten-free pickles and gluten-free ketchup, but when I eat them my tongue is going to split every time. It is just my system.

lovegrov Collaborator

There are many grains out there. Did you ask if it was wheat or barley? It could have been corn or other things.

Some people do not react well to anything distilled and some people just can't drink alcohol. My sister does not have celiac and even small amounts of alcohol make her feel terrible.

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I have discovered that I cannot have any alcohol made with grain products and I also cannot have vinegar. However, mine is due to a yeast intolerance. I CAN drink tequilla, rum, and potato vodka though and they should have yeast but they still don't bother me...don't know why, just assume it is the grain connection. I also must stay away from wine (I can eat grapes as long as they are fresh and kept cold).

As to the vinegar, I cannot even have rice vinegar and do eat a lot of rice products without any problems but through research discovered the yeast connection.

gf4life Enthusiast

Kate, I am interested in the vinegar/yeast connection. I am highly suspicious that I am having problems due to yeast, and I have noticed lately that vinegar in larger amounts bothers me. It is not a gluten reaction, just a lot of bloating and terrible gas. I avoid yeast breads and anything that obviously gives me problems, but I might need to take more drastic dietary steps to solve the yeast problem...

Can you please pass on some information you have found related to this connection? Thanks.

God bless,

Mariann

kabowman Explorer

Actually that was the hardest to figure out, I knew I had a problem with vinegar in all forms so I eliminated that. I finally realized I had a problem with yeast when all my gluten-free homemade yeast breads kept giving me identical reactions, regardless of which receipe I used. So, I did the test (eliminate then add back in just the one change) and sure enough, I got sick--bloating, gas, etc - it now will knock me out for about 4 hours straight if I have some by accident - fruit at a staff meeting that has been sitting out since the AM.

What I didn't realize for a while longer was the extent to what contained yeast: wine, vinegar, tomatoes (I can actually eat small amounts if not very often), grain distilled alcohols, yeast, over-ripe fruit (partially green bananas are OK), dried fruit, sweet foods that sat too long or stayed warm too long, etc.

I did a LOT of Internet research on candida (sp?) to come up with the list of foods with yeast and that is how I made the connection between vinegar, tomatoes, yeast, etc.

I also clean more now than I did for just the gluten-free because yeast can grow on anything.

skbird Contributor

I used to drink alcohol, now I can't tolerate it at all. I am not an alcoholic - it seems to have to do with my blood sugar problems. Funny because I used to be able to drink quite a bit - I live in Chico, CA where Sierra Nevada is made (I can smell it from my house, talk about a raw deal!) and I haven't been able to drink that for about three years. Wine, neither. Not even really watered down shots (I tried putting a shot into 16oz soda water and ice... no dice).

I did have about 1 oz of wine the other night in celebration of my brother asking his girlfriend's parents permission to ask her to marry him (very old fashoined, I love it!) and the next day I was hung over. Definitely for me it's the alcohol.

I don't have many problems with vinegar - just sometimes, when I think my stomach is already having problems (IBS stuff). Then it can irritate.

Stephanie


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tonyevans Newbie

With vinegar, just be careful with the brown Malt vinegar. The malt is derived from Barley.

As an alternative try Cider vinegar or White vinegar

julie5914 Contributor

I have apparently started reacting to apple juice, which I couldn't figure out. There are no grains in apple juice. But I had some organic apple juice Friday morning and it made me more nauseated than I have felt in years. I had to leave work. Strange.

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Anerissara~

I lived in Ireland for awhile, so my preferred drink has been whiskey for quite a while, but the last several months, I just felt super crappy the next day. I'm not a big drinker, so we're talking a drink or two would make my body ache. Wine didn't have the same effect. For the last month or so, I've also been drinking rum or potatoe vodka drinks and haven't had a problem. Plus I've had trouble with some vinegars, apple cider and balsamic are about the only only I can handle. They may be safe for some, but my experience will keep me from going back to the distilled grains.

anerissara Enthusiast
Anerissara~

I lived in Ireland for awhile, so my preferred drink has been whiskey for quite a while, but the last several months, I just felt super crappy the next day.  I'm not a big drinker, so we're talking a drink or two would make my body ache.  Wine didn't have the same effect.  For the last month or so, I've also been drinking rum or potatoe vodka drinks and haven't had a problem.  Plus I've had trouble with some vinegars, apple cider and balsamic are about the only only I can handle.  They may be safe for some, but my experience will keep me from going back to the distilled grains.

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That's what I was experiencing...nasty gi issues plus aches and pains. I checked the gin maker's website and found that it is made up of distilled wheat and also had some odd additives that might not be safe. Wine doesn't have the same effect on me at all. I also stick to the balsamic vinegar, I tried rice but it tasted funny so it's wine or balsamic for me I guess.

What part of Ireland did you live in?

ianm Apprentice
I have apparently started reacting to apple juice, which I couldn't figure out. There are no grains in apple juice. But I had some organic apple juice Friday morning and it made me more nauseated than I have felt in years. I had to leave work. Strange.

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I cannot eat apples or drink apple juice either. Apples have a lot of fructose and i don't tolerate it very well.

anerissara Enthusiast

Apple juice doesn't sit well with me, either. I can eat regular apples if they are tart (I enjoy slices apples used instead of crackers or bread with a little blueberry cream cheese) but apple juice makes me sick to my stomach. Just the thought makes me ill :blink:

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