Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

High Eosinophils In Esophagus


Joe0123

Recommended Posts

Joe0123 Contributor

I've been gluten free for 2 years and 3 months but for about a year and a half awhile I've been feeling worse. I had an EGD and the doc found eosinophils in my lower esophagus. I've suspected I may be intolerant to very small levels of gluten so I'm trying to completely eliminate them. Would the high eosinophils be a sign that I may still be getting glutened, that my instincts are right and I am extremely sensitive to any amount of gluten?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



mommida Enthusiast

If gluten is your "trigger" for eosinophilic esophagitus, it would be a sign you are still getting gluten.

My daughter was diagnosed with EE when she was 6 years old and "probable" Celiac when she was 17 months old. I think there is a connection between the Eosinophilic gastro disorders and Celiac. Eosinophils are white blood cells that are primarily to attack parasites. The white blood cells can't differentiate and destroy healthy tissue. Depending on how high your count is you may have been diagnosed with EE. You should be tested for parasites as a simple cure. Other than that you have to find out what your "triggers" are. (food and/or airborn allergens) You should be reffered to an immunologist/allergists for further testing. (standard cases of EE will show you don't have any true allergies.)

Did these symptoms start getting worse at the end of summer early fall? (that would also be typical for EE.)

Feel free to PM me for any further questions or information from the forum.

  • 4 weeks later...
JonnyD Rookie

I was diagnosed with Celiac and EE back in Feb of this year. I obviously went gluten-free right away but chose not to do anything about the EE other than monitor it.

In the fall, I had an incident where got some meat caught in my esophagus and it prompted me to investigate the EE further. First, I had food allergy testing done but I didn't react to anything. So, I reluctantly agreed to swallow Flovent twice a day for 8 weeks. That definitely worked but caused me to gain some weight as well. But, the treatment ended a couple months ago and I can now tell the EE is back. It sort of feels 'tingly' in my espophagus. I don't want to take Flovent for the rest of my life so I'm just sort of accepting it right now. Not sure what to do otherwise?

mommida Enthusiast

You probably won't be happy to hear this. An elimination diet, avoid all top 8 allergens (wheat, egg, fish, shellfish, peanuts, tree nuts, soy, and dairy all the way down to casein protein) and peas. Keep an eye on the airborn allergens. (seasonal allergies/airborn allergies play a part in EE.)

Eosinophils stay active for 12 days once activated. So you must commit to this diet for at least 2 weeks.

If you do not notice an improvement you need to remove more things from your diet. If you are feeling good, you add back a food in the simplest form. A small amount for 3 days.

Keep a very detailed journal. All food items, activities/locations, and your reactions.

Some product lines that have low allergen content are Enjoy Life, Ener-G. Found some amazing cookies that you can order online ~ LizLovely YUM.

The "wacky cake" recipe, and vegan baking recipes.

Also search "non-food" items. You'll need some extra calories from things like Dum Dum suckers. It can also help with the tingly/sore throat. 7-11 Slurpees, frozen fruit pieces (although that makes me nervous that can get stuck in your throat) Drink a full glass of water with every meal and take your time to chew really well.

That's the advice I can give you from my daughter being diagnosed 3 years ago.

Darn210 Enthusiast

I just have to add my opinion that mommida is giving you some good advice. We were actually heading down the path of an EE diagnosis for my daughter when we found Celiac instead. When my daughter had her endoscopy, they were biopsying her Esophagus and took additional samples in the stomach and small intestine (in the doctor's words "since they were in the neighborhood). When we were looking at the possibility of an EE diagnosis, he said the first thing is to get the diagnosis (do you have an actual diagnosis?) and then the next step is to find the trigger. He said to hope that it's a food because it's just easier to avoid a food then an environmental factor.

You might want to do some googling on EE and educate yourself. You might also want to talk to the doctor. Mommida, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there some blood work that usually goes along with an EE diagnosis?

Darn210 Enthusiast

. . . but isn't there some blood work that usually goes along with an EE diagnosis?

OK . . . after just a bit of googling, I don't see blood testing as part of the procedure although, I know my daughter had some labwork done (absolute eosinophils and neutrophils and some stuff like that). I did see GERD mentioned as a cause for increased eosinophils in the esophagus but it wouldn't be as high as with EE. I think you should talk to your doc.

JonnyD Rookie

Thanks for the advice.

I do have a diagnosis for both Celiac and EE. I'll have to look into the elimination diet and see if I can identify the culprit for the EE, if there is one. When diagnosed with both initially, I initially hoped eliminating gluten would fix everything. But, that wasn't the case.

Gluten-Free has made a hugely positive difference in my life though! The EE is more of an annoyance right now but definitely something I'll try to fix... after the holidays. :)


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Joe0123 Contributor

My GI doc said I had EE in April of 2009, but after this most recent EGD he's not sure. He said since I only have high eosinophils in my lower esophagus, that could be caused by either EE or GERD or something else. Reflux meds don't help so I have to assume it's food allergy/intolerance related. I recently had a food patch test that said I was highly allergic to oats, barley, and corn, things that I already avoid but I've found out that corn derivatives are in lots of things, like in an egg replacer I was using. It also said I wasn't allergic to things that give me problems and I avoid, like dairy, nuts and seeds.

mommida Enthusiast

You really get the diagnoses from the count found from the biopsy. It definately is a higher count for an adult to get diagnosed.

There was no blood testing done before my daughter's scopes when EE was evident.

It is also common for EE to "flare" up in fall. (not sure if that is a mid west specific weather pattern)

Some things have changed over the 3 years since she was diagnosed. i.e. I think they don't rely on more common in males, upper income, spacious home description of the "average" EE patientas much.

Just like avoiding gluten, you have to aware of your household cleaning products too.

Eosinophils are primarily to fight parasites, amd you should have been tested to rule out a parasitic infection.

dilettantesteph Collaborator

I am super sensitive to oats as well as gluten, but not to corn. Even with my two sensitivities I found I did better when I eliminated processed foods. With that third one, you'd probably find you do better too. Unfortunately a lot of gluten free products use corn or oats to replace the wheat in at least some of their products, so even if they are gluten free, they may contain some oats or corn.

It wouldn't be too hard to do a diet of produce and meat for a week or so to see if it makes a difference.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,855
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Tara M
    Newest Member
    Tara M
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • cristiana
      @Colleen H   I am just curious,  when you were tested for coeliac disease, did the doctors find out if you had any deficiencies? Sometimes muscle pain can be caused by certain deficiencies, for example, magnesium, vitamin D, calcium, and potassium.   Might be worth looking into having some more tests.  Pins and needles can be neuropathy, again caused by deficiencies, such as iron and B12,  which can be reversed if these deficiencies are addressed. In the UK where I live we are usually only tested for iron, B12 and vitamin D deficiencies at diagnosis.   I was very iron anemic and supplementation made a big difference.  B12 was low normal, but in other countries the UK's low normal would be considered a deficiency.  My vitamin D was low normal, and I've been supplementing ever since (when I remember to take it!) My pins and needles definitely started to improve when my known deficiencies were addressed.  My nutritionist also gave me a broad spectrum supplement which really helped, because I suspect I wasn't just deficient in what I mention above but in many other vitamins and minerals.  But a word of warning, don't take iron unless blood tests reveal you actually need it, and if you are taking it your levels must be regularly monitored because too much can make you ill.  (And if you are currently taking iron, that might actually be making your stomach sore - it did mine, so my GP changed my iron supplementation to a gentler form, ferrous gluconate). Lastly, have you been trying to take anything to lessen the pain in your gut?  I get a sore stomach periodically, usually when I've had too much rich food, or when I have had to take an aspirin or certain antibiotics, or after glutening.  When this happens, I take for just a few days a small daily dose of OTC omeprazole.  I also follow a reflux or gastritis diet. There are lots online but the common denominators to these diets is you need to cut out caffeine, alcohol, rich, spicy, acidic food etc and eat small regularly spaced meals.   When I get a sore stomach, I also find it helpful to drink lots of water.  I also find hot water with a few slices of ginger very soothing to sip, or camomile tea.  A wedge pillow at night is good for reflux. Also,  best not to eat a meal 2-3 hours before going to bed. If the stomach pain is getting worse, though, it would be wise to see the doctor again. I hope some of this helps. Cristiana    
    • Me,Sue
      I was diagnosed with coeliac disease a couple of years ago [ish]. I love my food and a variety of food, so it's been hard, as it is with everyone. I try and ensure everything I eat doesn't contain gluten, but occasionally I think something must have got through that has gluten in. Mainly I know because I have to dash to the loo, but recently I have noticed that I feel nauseous after possibly being glutened. I think the thing that I have got better at is knowing what to do when I feel wiped out after a gluten 'episode'. I drink loads of water, and have just started drinking peppermint tea. I also have rehydration powders to drink. I don't feel like eating much, but eventually feel like I need to eat. Gluten free flapjacks, or gluten free cereal, or a small gluten free kids meal are my go to. I am retired, so luckily I can rest, sometimes even going to bed when nothing else works. So I feel that I am getting better at knowing how to try and get back on track. I am also trying to stick to a simpler menu and eat mostly at home so that I can be more confident about what I am eating. THANKS TO THOSE WHO REPLIED ABOUT THE NAUSEA .
    • Francis M
      Thanks. Since the back and forth and promises of review and general stalling went on for more than six months, the credit company will no longer investigate. They have a cutoff of maybe six months.
    • Scott Adams
      Is this the same restaurant? https://www.facebook.com/TheHappyTartFallsChurch/ Is it too late to take this up with your credit card company? Normally you have a few months to do a chargeback with them. It seems very odd that they are taking this approach with someone who is likely to be a regular customer--not a good business-minded way of handling things!
    • Scott Adams
      Many people with celiac disease, especially those who are in the 0-2 year range of their recovery, have additional food intolerance issues which could be temporary. To figure this out you may need to keep a food diary and do an elimination diet over a few months. Some common food intolerance issues are dairy/casein, eggs, corn, oats, and soy. The good news is that after your gut heals (for most people who are 100% gluten-free this will take several months to two years) you may be able to slowly add some these items back into your diet after the damaged villi heal. This article may be helpful: The most common nutrient deficiencies associated with celiac disease that may lead to testing for the condition include iron, vitamin D, folate (vitamin B9), vitamin B12, calcium, zinc, and magnesium.  Unfortunately many doctors, including my own doctor at the time, don't do extensive follow up testing for a broad range of nutrient deficiencies, nor recommend that those just diagnosed with celiac disease take a broad spectrum vitamin/mineral supplement, which would greatly benefit most, if not all, newly diagnosed celiacs. Because of this it took me decades to overcome a few long-standing issues I had that were associated with gluten ataxia, for example numbness and tingling in my feet, and muscle knots--especially in my shoulders an neck. Only long term extensive supplementation has helped me to resolve these issues.        
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.