Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Joint Pain


tbritt

Recommended Posts

tbritt Rookie

Last Friday, I suspect I ingested gluten some time that afternoon (although I'm not sure from what). I handled dog treats given to me by the bank and didn't wash my hands afterward. I think I had a snack just a bit later. I spent the dinner hour that night on the toilet (and had no appetite). The following day, I was dizzy and "hung over" feeling. On Sunday and Monday, I was also feeling extra tired. On Tuesday, my hand started hurting in the same place I had a tendon issue before Christmas. (I had taken an antibiotic that apparently can give folks tendonitis. Leave it to me to get tendonitis!)

I use my hands hours and hours a day for work. It's not uncommon for folks in my field to get tendon injuries. However, I feel like my issues resolve when I'm all the way gluten free. When I gave up gluten, I was battling joint pain in my shoulder and neck. It would come back when I got gluten. It seems to have completely resolved at this point.

I am diligently doing PT exercises to heal my hand again. I am taking vitamins. I am eating a very bland gluten free diet until I feel like I've shaken whatever got me.

Has anyone else had recurring tendon problems after gluten ingestion?

I am considering giving up dairy and soy, but I don't want to if I don't have to. (I find it hard to get enough calories otherwise.)

I have been gluten free for more than 18 months. I have never intentionally ingested gluten since I quit.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



rosetapper23 Explorer

Yes, I can definitely affirm that I have had tendon problems as a result of eating gluten. Actually, I've experienced tendon and ligament problems since I was 11 years old, when my celiac was triggered. Most recently, when I was glutened (after seven years of eating gluten free) in April 2009, the tendons were so badly affected in my feet, I ended up with stress fractures in both feet within five weeks of the glutening occurrence. I was very disabled for more than a year. Six years ago, when I damaged the tendons in my left thumb during a fall (all the tendons detached from the base of my thumb), I met with an orthopedist who immediately asked me, "Oh, my God! What kind of muscular dystrophy do you have?!" I informed her that I didn't have MD; rather, I was born with celiac disease. My son and I used to have tendon pain in our wrists (similar to carpel tunnel pain), but that resolved after following a strict gluten-free diet. Slowly, the medical community is beginning to see a connection between celiac and musculoskeletal problems....but more studies need to be done.

mushroom Proficient

If you have been gluten free that long and still having problems, I would try getting rid of the soy first. Then try the dairy if that did not work. Soy is such a big problem for so many celiacs. I wish you pain-free strumming.

dilettantesteph Collaborator

I get terrible joint pain from low level gluten contamination. I finally figured out my latest and it is so nice to be able to bend my elbow without pain again!

UKGail Rookie

tbritt - my glutening symptoms are exactly like yours re dizzyness/hung over feeling, bathroom runs etc. Add in a migraine with neck pain too. In the 3 years before going gluten free I suffered from frozen shoulder (capsulitis and tendonitis) in both shoulders. The most recent one eventually led to my diagnosis. Although I have only been gluten free for 4 months, I have noticed that the migraine, neck and shoulder pain all flare up either slightly from what I assume may be low-level contamination, and majorly if I get a good dose of it. It's not much fun. I am now trying to be really strict on a basic meat and veggies diet and avoiding places where there may be significant levels of gluten to see if that helps.

Aly1 Contributor

I do get tendinitis in my wrists really badly, it was one of my very first problems. Nowadays I also get stiff and sore finger joints when I eat corn, so I avoid that too...

tbritt Rookie

I am actually a violinist and violin teacher by trade, so the tendon issues are a problem. My shoulder pain kept me from playing for a year. Doctors kept blaming it on the violin. I don't think the violin was ever the problem. I think it was malnourishment.

I am hoping to shake it over the next few weeks. The exercises have been keeping it from getting worse. Thanks for all of the replies.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



UKGail Rookie

I think it might be an autoimmune inflammatory response rather than malnourishment per se. My own pet theory for what it is worth is that systemic inflammation caused by gluten ingestion hurts our weak spots most. Where I suffered pain previously (and which seems to recur with gluten ingestion) is where I either have structual problems because of dodgy discs or where I have previously suffered an injury. I guess for you if you use your hands and shoulders a lot, this is where you are at highest risk of wear and tear problems. I hope you get better soon.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      12

      My only proof

    2. - NanceK replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      12

      My only proof

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      39

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

    4. - trents replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      39

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      39

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,369
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Carole Eva
    Newest Member
    Carole Eva
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      You're right, doctors usually only test Vitamin D and B12.  Both are really important, but they're not good indicators of deficiencies in the other B vitamins.  Our bodies are able to store Vitamin B12 and Vitamin D in the liver for up to a year or longer.  The other B vitamins can only be stored for much shorter periods of time.  Pyridoxine B 6 can be stored for several months, but the others only a month or two at the longest.  Thiamine stores can be depleted in as little as three days.  There's no correlation between B12 levels and the other B vitamins' levels.  Blood tests can't measure the amount of vitamins stored inside cells where they are used.  There's disagreement as to what optimal vitamin levels are.  The Recommended Daily Allowance is based on the minimum daily amount needed to prevent disease set back in the forties when people ate a totally different diet and gruesome experiments were done on people.  Folate  requirements had to be updated in the nineties after spina bifida increased and synthetic folic acid was mandated to be added to grain products.  Vitamin D requirements have been updated only in the past few years.   Doctors aren't required to take as many hours of nutritional education as in the past.  They're educated in learning institutions funded by pharmaceutical corporations.  Natural substances like vitamins can't be patented, so there's more money to be made prescribing pharmaceuticals than vitamins.   Also, look into the Autoimmune Protocol Diet, developed by Dr. Sarah Ballantyne, a Celiac herself.  Her book The Paleo Approach has been most helpful to me.  You're very welcome.  I'm glad I can help you around some stumbling blocks while on this journey.    Keep me posted on your progress!  Best wishes! P.S.  interesting reading: Thiamine, gastrointestinal beriberi and acetylcholine signaling https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12014454/
    • NanceK
      So interesting that you stated you had sub clinical vitamin deficiencies. When I was first diagnosed with celiac disease (silent), the vitamin levels my doctor did test for were mostly within normal range (lower end) with the exception of vitamin D. I believe he tested D, B12, magnesium, and iron.  I wondered how it was possible that I had celiac disease without being deficient in everything!  I’m wondering now if I have subclinical vitamin deficiencies as well, because even though I remain gluten free, I struggle with insomnia, low energy, body aches, etc.  It’s truly frustrating when you stay true to the gluten-free diet, yet feel fatigued most days. I’ll definitely try the B-complex, and the Benfotiamine again, and will keep you posted. Thanks once again!
    • knitty kitty
      Segments of the protein Casein are the same as segments of the protein strands of gluten, the 33-mer segment.   The cow's body builds that Casein protein.  It doesn't come from wheat.   Casein can trigger the same reaction as being exposed to gluten in some people.   This is not a dairy allergy (IGE mediated response).  It is not lactose intolerance.  
    • trents
      Wheatwacked, what exactly did you intend when you stated that wheat is incorporated into the milk of cows fed wheat? Obviously, the gluten would be broken down by digestion and is too large a molecule anyway to cross the intestinal membrane and get into the bloodstream of the cow. What is it from the wheat that you are saying becomes incorporated into the milk protein?
    • Scott Adams
      Wheat in cow feed would not equal gluten in the milk, @Wheatwacked, please back up extraordinary claims like this with some scientific backing, as I've never heard that cow's milk could contain gluten due to what the cow eats.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.