Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Frustrated Of Waiting!


Brownie88

Recommended Posts

Brownie88 Newbie

Hi all.

I am a 23 year old female from Australia. I never thought I would be dealing with the possibility of coeliac (celiac) disease and am currently awaiting the results of my biospy which is taking forever!!! I just want to know how long it takes to get your results? I have been waiting for three weeks and am waiting to hear back from the doctor's office today as to when my appointment is (I thought it was today but it is not :( ) I want to know if anyone thinks I will get positive results. What happens if it is negative? And if you think my symptoms describe coeliac?

It all started last November when my partner and I made a big move across the country (about 37km away from home). I was probably eating the most unhealthy foods I have ever had as we drove for four days and then the unpacking, I was eating lots of takeaway and gluten foods. A few weeks after arrvial I began to feel nauseous, and sufferred from stomach cramps, fatigue, constipation and then later diarrhea. And I improved my diet, opting for healthier foods but was still sick.

My first visit to the doctor was in about Feb. and my doctor attempted to diagnose me with IBS and gave my some horrible medication that made me feel like the walking dead. So I went back weeks later and he decided to test me for Coeliac. I must say I was completely shocked (and so was he) that the results were positive. Especially since my regular diet consists of less gluten than the average person as I eat little bread and always choose rice over pasta as that is my preference.

I booked in for my biopsy in April but had to cancel due to my asthma, which has never really been problem, got really bad that I was coughing way to much to undergo the procedure. I was relieved though as my surgeon was very rude and impatient to the point of inappropriate. Also, he told me that my blood results were low so he did not think I was coeliac but still ordered a biopsy. I then waited till I felt better and my asthma treatment was working, I booked with a new doctor, knowing it would take longer - this was about 3 months later.

I had cut down on gluten for about 3 weeks (which was wrong but I was over it) and as soon as I was booked in for my procedure, I decided to begin the horrid, "gluten challenge" - approx 6 weeks leading up to the procedure. Two days before my procedure I was the sickest I have been, stomach cramps, nauseous, diarrhea - so I didn't eat that day. I also experienced severe pain in my knees - they were just aching.

I had two biopsies taken from my stomach and after the procedure I continued eating gluten for 5 days and it was unbearable. My doctor hadn't told me whether I could be gluten-free and was worried I might need more tests. So I did some research and saw others had gone gluten-free straight after, so I did. Three weeks later, I am feeling much better... I do not feel completely recovered but I feel like I have started the journey to full recovery.

I am worried I have not done enough to get a positive result. I just want answers and am hoping I can get a diagnosis and move on to live a healthy life again.

Also, I think what triggered the Coeliac is that I visited Malaysia and ended up with Traveller's Diarrhea and last year visited Thailand only to get ill over there too.

I feel like I have been waiting forever and am scared that I will get a negative result even though I feel like a am coeliac.

Thanks for reading my essay lol. Sorry it is so long.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



MitziG Enthusiast

Ok, first of all, you have celiac disease. Your biopsy may or may not show it, but it doesn't matter. Positive bloodwork and a positive response to the gluten-free diet is sufficient to dx yourself. Biopsies are always hit and miss. Sometimes they hit the right spot, sometimes they don't. Unless your GI took multiple (as in 6+ samples) from the duodenal bulb (not the stomach) then chances are good he missed it. Honestly, even weakly positive bloods are a better indication. False positive celiac bloods are almost non-existant. They just don't happen. Its like being "a little bit pregnant." Your travels and diet change probably triggered the disease, and since it was a recent development, the antibody levels would not have had time to get very high. The good news is you probably caught this disease in the beginning, before it devastated your gut. Which is another reason your biopsy may be negative- you likely don't have severe damage yet. That is a good thing.

So, my advice to you is decide you are celiac, accept it, and continue on the path to good health. And whenever your doc gets around to sending you a biopsy report, if it confirms this.comm tuck it away in your medical records. If it doesn't, toss it in the trash and disregard it. Your body told you the truth already, whether the doctor heard it or not.

Brownie88 Newbie

Thanks for your reply. It makes me feel better about my decision to become gluten-free.

I do hope for the positive diagnosis though (maybe more for other people to recognise it), if it is negative am I still able to class myself as Celiac because of the positive blood test?

Because you cannot be a little bit Celiac.

Yeah I will absolutely tear that the biopsy report to pieces if it comes out negative I think!

That is if I ever get to see it.

Brownie88 Newbie

oops just realised I wrote 37km away from home instead of 37 hours lol... It is actually about 3,000km away from home lol my bad.

1desperateladysaved Proficient

I can relate to waiting for results. I didn't want to have celiac, but I was hoping I would, so that I could do something about my problems. I received my result by e-mail. I stared at the monitor and caught my breath when it finally arrived.

I hoping your results will be accurate and that you will receive them soon.

Diana

MitziG Enthusiast

Yes, you can call yourself celiac, because you are. And you do not need to offer an explanation to friends and family to justify it. Just say "I have celiac." If the biopsy is negative, no need to disclose that. People will just second guess your decision and constantly try to talk you into eating gluten. Spare yourself that scenario. You ARE celiac. Biopsies are not the be all and end all in diagnosis.

kittty Contributor

oops just realised I wrote 37km away from home instead of 37 hours lol... It is actually about 3,000km away from home lol my bad.

I thought you were just a slow driver ;)

Were you under a lot of stress before and during the move? I think stress can trigger a celiac response if you are genetically predisposed to it. That could have been what set you off.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Brownie88 Newbie

I can relate to waiting for results. I didn't want to have celiac, but I was hoping I would, so that I could do something about my problems. I received my result by e-mail. I stared at the monitor and caught my breath when it finally arrived.

I hoping your results will be accurate and that you will receive them soon.

Diana

Yeah I feel the same way.. I never would have wanted it but if it means being healthy again then I am more than happy to say goodbye to gluten. Thanks Diana.

Yes, you can call yourself celiac, because you are. And you do not need to offer an explanation to friends and family to justify it. Just say "I have celiac." If the biopsy is negative, no need to disclose that. People will just second guess your decision and constantly try to talk you into eating gluten. Spare yourself that scenario. You ARE celiac. Biopsies are not the be all and end all in diagnosis.

Ok I have Celiac, from now on that is what I am.

I will not let myself be "food bullied", will not stop it from getting on my nerves though. I know a lot of people struggle with this and other people understanding the consequences of celiacs eating gluten.

Thanks MitziG.

I thought you were just a slow driver ;)

Were you under a lot of stress before and during the move? I think stress can trigger a celiac response if you are genetically predisposed to it. That could have been what set you off.

Haha.. nah not that slow.

Yes it was very stressful. We moved because my partner got a job. I had to leave my job of 7 years and had some interviews set up but nothing in stone. I had never been to the town we moved to, we didn't know anyone and the 4 day drive was a stress and a half! Lots of car issues.

But you are probably right. I was very stressed at the time it started and I do suffer from anxiety.

  • 1 month later...
Brownie88 Newbie

Hi Everyone, I wanted to get back to you with my results but have been travelling and just haven't gotten around to it. My endoscopy results came back positive and I feel sooo relieved to say with total certainity I am celiac. I have been gluten free for about 10 weeks and feel heaps better. Thanks for your help :)

1desperateladysaved Proficient

Thanks for reporting back. I am glad for a definative diagnosis. Sorry that you have been incovenienced by this. Hopefull, you are now recovering well.

Diana

GottaSki Mentor

I'm glad your results were clear - it does alleviate continued frustration from lingering questions .

Outstanding news that you are already feeling better - thanks for sharing :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to tiffanygosci's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      13

      New Celiac Mama in My 30s

    2. - tiffanygosci replied to tiffanygosci's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      13

      New Celiac Mama in My 30s

    3. - RMJ replied to Riley.'s topic in Introduce Yourself / Share Stuff
      4

      Outgrow celiac?

    4. - knitty kitty replied to Riley.'s topic in Introduce Yourself / Share Stuff
      4

      Outgrow celiac?

    5. - knitty kitty replied to tiffanygosci's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      13

      New Celiac Mama in My 30s


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,980
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Cathal Brugha
    Newest Member
    Cathal Brugha
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @tiffanygosci, Thiamine deficiency is a thing in pregnancy for "normal" people, so it's exponentially more important for those with celiac disease and malabsorption issues. I studied nutrition before earning a degree in Microbiology because I was curious what the vitamins were doing inside the body.  See my blog.  Click on my name to go to my page, scroll to drop down menu "activities" and select blog.   So glad you're motivated to see the dietician!  We're always happy to help with questions.  Keep us posted on your progress! 
    • tiffanygosci
      Thank you for sharing all of this, Knitty Kitty! I did just want someone to share some commonality with. I did not know This one Deficiency was a thing and that it's common for Celiac Disease. It makes sense since this is a disorder that causes malabsorption. I will have to keep this in mind for my next appointments. You also just spurred me on to make that Dietician appointment. There's a lot of information online but I do need to see a professional. There is too much to juggle on my own with this condition.<3
    • RMJ
      I think your initial idea, eat gluten and be tested, was excellent. Now you have fear of that testing, but isn’t there also a fear each time you eat gluten that you’re injuring your body? Possibly affecting future fertility, bone health and more? Wouldn’t it be better to know for sure one way or the other? If you test negative, then you celebrate and get tested occasionally to make sure the tests don’t turn positive again. If you test positive, of course the recommendation from me and others is to stop gluten entirely.  But if you’re unable to convince yourself to do that, could a positive test at least convince you to minimize your gluten consumption?  Immune reactions are generally what is called dose response, the bigger the dose, the bigger the response (in this case, damage to your intestines and body). So while I am NOT saying you should eat any gluten with a positive test, the less the better.  
    • knitty kitty
      @Riley., Welcome to the forum, but don't do it!  Don't continue to eat gluten!  The health problems that will come if you continue to eat gluten are not worth it.  Problems may not show up for years, but the constant inflammation and nutritional losses will manifest eventually.  There's many of us oldsters on the forum who wish they'd been diagnosed as early.    Fertility problems, gallbladder removal, diabetes, osteoporosis and mental health challenges are future health issues you are toying with.   To dispel fear, learn more about what you are afraid of.  Be proactive.  Start or join a Celiac group in your area.  Learn about vitamins and nutrition.   Has your mother been checked for Celiac?  It's inherited.  She may be influencing you to eat gluten as a denial of her own symptoms.  Don't let friends and family sway you away from the gluten-free diet.  You know your path.  Stick to it.  Be brave. 
    • knitty kitty
      @tiffanygosci, Hello.  I apologize for your thread being hijacked.   I recognize your symptoms as being similar to what I experienced, the migraines, food and chemical sensitivities, hives, nausea, the numbness and tingling, joint pain, tummy problems, sleep problems, emotional lability, and the mom brain.  My cycle returned early after I had my son, and I became pregnant again with all my symptoms worsening.  Unfortunately, I lost that baby.  In hindsight, I recognized that I was suffering so much from Thiamine deficiency and other nutritional deficiencies that I was not able to carry it.   Celiac Disease affects the absorption of nutrients from our food.  There's eight B vitamins that must be replenished every day.  Thiamine Vitamin B1 becomes depleted first because it cannot be stored very long, less than two weeks.  Other B vitamins can be stored for two months or so.  But Thiamine can get low enough to produce symptoms in as little as three days.  As the thiamine level gets lower, symptoms worsen.  Early symptoms like fatigue and anxiety are often attributed to life situations, and so frequently go unrecognized by medical professionals who "have a pill for that".   I used to get severe migraines and vomiting after gluten consumption.  Thiamine and the other B vitamins are needed to turn carbohydrates, fats and proteins into fuel for our bodies.  With a large influx of carbohydrates from gluten containing foods, the demand for Thiamine increases greatly.  Available thiamine can be depleted quickly, resulting in suddenly worsening symptoms.  Emotional stress or trauma, physical activity (athletes and laborers) and physiological stresses like pregnancy or injury (even surgery or infection) increase the need for Thiamine and can precipitate a thiamine insufficiency. Pregnancy requires more thiamine, not just for the mother, but for the child as well.  The mother's Thiamine stores are often depleted trying to meet the higher demand of a growing fetus.  Thiamine insufficiency can affect babies in utero and after birth (autism, ADHD).  Having babies close together doesn't allow time for the mother to replenish thiamine stores sufficiently.   Thiamine insufficiency can cause migraines, pins and needles (paresthesia), and gastrointestinal Beriberi (gas, bloating, diarrhea or constipation, back pain).   Thiamine deficiency can cause blurry vision, difficulty focusing, and affect the eyes in other ways.  Thiamine deficiency can damage the optic nerves.  I have permanent vision problems.  High histamine levels can make your brain feel like it's on fire or swelling inside your cranium.  High histamine levels can affect behavior and mood.  Histamine is released by Mast Cells as part of the immune system response to gluten.  Mast Cells need Thiamine to regulate histamine release.  Mast Cells without sufficient thiamine release histamine at the slightest provocation.  This shows up as sensitivities to foods, smelly chemicals, plants, and dust mites.  Thiamine and the other B vitamins are needed to lower histamine levels.  Vitamin D is needed to calm the immune system and to regulate our hormones.  Menstrual irregularities can be caused by low Vitamin D.   Celiac Disease is a disease if Malabsorption of Nutrients.  We must take great care to eat a nutritionally dense diet.  Our bodies cannot make vitamins.  We must get them from what we eat.  Supplementation with essential vitamins and minerals is warranted while we are healing and to ensure we don't become deficient over time.  Our bodies will not function properly without essential vitamins and minerals.  Doctors have swept their importance under the rug in favor of a pill that covers the symptoms but doesn't resolve the underlying issue of malnutrition. Do talk to your doctor and dietician about checking for nutritional deficiencies.  Most blood tests for the eight B vitamins do not reflect how much is available or stored inside cells.  Blood tests reflect how much is circulating in the blood stream, the transportation system.  Blood levels can be "normal" while a deficiency exists inside cells where the vitamins are actually used.  The best way to see if you're low in B vitamins is to take a B Complex, and additional Thiamine and look for improvement.   Most vitamin supplements contain Thiamine Mononitrate, which is not easily absorbed nor utilized by the body.  Only thirty percent of thiamine mononitrate listed on the label is absorbed, less is actually utilized.  This is because thiamine mononitrate is shelf stable, it won't breakdown sitting on a shelf in the grocery store.  It's so hard to breakdown, our bodies don't absorb it and can't turn it into a form the body can use.  Take Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine or TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) which the body can utilize much better.  (Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test for Thiamine level.  Though not accurate, this test does better picking up on a thiamine deficiency than a blood test.) Are you keeping your babies on a gluten free diet?  This can prevent genetically susceptible children from developing Celiac Disease.   P. S. Interesting Reading  Thiamine deficiency in pregnancy and lactation: implications and present perspectives https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10158844/ Descriptive spectrum of thiamine deficiency in pregnancy: A potentially preventable condition https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37458305/ B vitamins and their combination could reduce migraine headaches: A randomized double-blind controlled trial https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9860208/
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.