Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

When I Get Glutened, This Works For Me...


cornbread

Recommended Posts

cornbread Explorer

edit: can this be moved to the 'coping with' section?

Hi guys,

I've been officially gluten-free for 4 months (and recently became CF too). I'm as careful as can be but of course sometimes still get glutened (or caseined!). For me the worst effects of this are the severe fatigue, irritability, depression and the brain fog - the feeling that I'm not really 'there' and if you told me today was a dream, I would believe you. This usually lasts for about 5 days. Urg!

Anyway, I've been desperately searching for something I can take during these times to cut through the fog a little. I've tried all sorts of things (vitamins, supplements, etc.), but recently stumbled upon something called ENADAlert. Basically it's NADH in a sublingual form (dissolves under your tongue). According to what I've read, your body produces the NADH coenzyme naturally. If cellular levels of NADH are depleted, brain and muscle cells lose their ability to function effectively. So taking extra NADH tops up that supply, and in my personal experience taking 2 or 3 of these (10mg per pill) brought me out of the deepest pits of gluten-fog hell in under an hour. I can't remember any 'boost' as such, I just suddenly noticed myself engaging in conversation again, making jokes and feeling like my old happy, alert self, whereas when I'm glutened I don't want to even make eye contact and avoid all conversation. The great thing is, this seemed to banish the fog for good. It didn't come back, so what was normally a 5 day experience ended up only ruining my morning. The pills are sold for jet-lag, hard work-outs, etc. They are meant to promote energy, enhance mood, support memory function, which they did for me, but the way they dissolved the underwater/brain fog feeling was the most astonishing thing.

They are natural and gluten/dairy free, no caffeine or anything either, just NADH. They are quite expensive (I get mine at Whole Foods and they are $18 for a box of 8 I think), but considering I get 2 or 3 'get out of gluten hell free' passes per box, they are well worth it! :lol: Also, I've seen them online much cheaper, like $10, so I will source them elsewhere from now on.

Anyway, I hope posting this helps at least one person - and I apologise in advance if this doesn't work as well for you as it did for me. :)


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Nantzie Collaborator

I haven't heard of this yet. Any idea what is in it, or what it is?

Nancy

cornbread Explorer

It's just NADH - that's what is in it. It's a coenzyme made from vitamin B2 (niacin).

From Open Original Shared Link

"Nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide, or NADH, is a coenzyme made from vitamin B2, or niacin. It’s present in all living cells. As a coenzyme, NADH serves an important role in helping enzymes to function as they should. (An enzyme is a protein that works like a catalyst in the body to prompt chemical changes in other substances; breaking down food into energy is an example.) Most coenzymes are synthesized from vitamins, and for optimal energy production, the body needs good amounts of them. The coenzyme, NADH, is no exception.

In people, NADH stimulates the production of ATP (adenosine triphosphate), a compound that regulates the release of energy stored in cells. The more NADH a cell has, the more chemical energy it produces.

Research findings indicate that increased concentrations of NADH in the brain may boost the production of neurotransmitters brain chemicals vital to sound mental function.

Until recently, NADH could only be given intravenously because stomach acid would rapidly destroy the delicate molecule. But a new enteric-coated, oral tablet containing NADH is now available.

Health Benefits

Oral NADH supplementation has been used to combat simple fatigue as well as such mysterious and energy-sapping disorders as chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. Researchers are also studying the value of NADH supplements for improving mental function in people with Alzheimer's disease, and minimizing physical disability and relieving depression in people with Parkinson's disease.

Some healthy individuals also take NADH supplements orally to improve concentration and memory capacity, as well as to increase athletic endurance. However, to date there have been no published studies to indicate that using NADH is in any way effective or safe for these purposes.

Specifically, NADH may help to:

Relieve chronic fatigue syndrome. A recent study supported by the Food and Drug Administration found that the oral form of NADH helped a small group of patients with chronic fatigue syndrome. In the study, 31% of the participants said they felt more vigorous and mentally alert when taking daily NADH. Only 8% of those taking the placebo reported such improvements.

Lift general fatigue as well as fibromyalgia-related exhaustion. Because NADH increases energy in cells, some researchers speculate that it may also boost energy in people with fibromyalgia, a disorder characterized by muscle pain and fatigue. NADH may also keep simple, daily fatigue at bay by helping to supply muscle cells with energy.

Relieve depression. Imbalances in brain chemicals are a primary cause of certain types of depression. Because NADH stimulates the production of many key chemicals called neurotransmitters, it may have a role to play in relieving the symptoms of depression. No clinical trials to demonstrate this effect have been conducted so far, however.

Complement Parkinson's therapy. There is early evidence that NADH supplements may raise levels of dopamine, a compound crucial to slowing the physical symptoms of Parkinson's disease and relieving the depression that often accompanies them. (People with Parkinson’s disease have dwindling supplies of dopamine.)

Improve Alzheimer's symptoms. Some European studies of NADH have shown promise for treating people with Alzheimer's disease, but as of yet, no well-designed double-blind, placebo-controlled trials have been conducted to demonstrate this effect. One preliminary study did show that cognitive dysfunction improved in a very small group of Alzheimer's patients taking NADH."

:)

elonwy Enthusiast

I am a big believer in B vitamins, wierd thing is Niacin is B3, Riboflavin is B2.

Niacin is whats in Red Bull, makes your blood cells absorb more oxygen ( and acohol, depending on usage). Figures it would make you think better.

I'm going to try a full B-Complex.

Elonwy

aikiducky Apprentice

I took a vitamin B complex that has B1, B2, B3, B5, B6, B12, folic acid and a few other things I don't know English names for :) for quite some time. Nowadays I don't feel like I need it (gluten-free for a year) but I take one or two when I get badly glutened. It helps a lot with the mind fog and, though not so dramatically, the fatigue.

Pauliina

LLCoolJD Newbie

They drilled me on NADH back in biochemistry class :wacko: I don't see how it could be harmful if taken as a supplement, but I'd think that NADH is something that your body produces more or less flawlessly with adequate nutrition. It's just so fundamental to your metabolism.

I'm all for experimenting with new treatments, though. If this could possibly benefit those with neurological issues, then I'm all for further testing. Especially since NADH supplementation seems so innocuous.

artmeg55 Newbie

Thanks for the tip! I'm going to get some and try it too. Wish I had some right now! That's the great thing about this message board, getting and sharing advice!

Meg


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,180
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Ruby B
    Newest Member
    Ruby B
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Jane878
      By the time I was 5 I had my first auto0immune disorder, Migraine headaches, with auras to blind me, and vomiting, sensitivity to light and sound. I was 5 years old, and my stepfather would have pizza night, milling his own flour, making thick cheesy gluten pizza, that I would eat and the next day, I would have serious migraines, and my mother & stepfather did nothing about my medical problems. When I was 17 in my first year at college, I was diagnosed with my 2nd known auto-immune disorder, Meniere's disease. I was a elite athlete, a swimmer, and soccer player. And once again my parents didn't think anything of understanding why I had a disorder only older people get. Now after my mother passed from Alzheimer's disease she also suffered with living with gluten. She had a rash for 30 years that nobody could diagnose. She was itchy for 45 years total. My brother had a encapsulated virus explodes in his spleen and when this happened his entire intestines were covered with adhesions, scar tissue and he almost lost his life. He has 5 daughters, and when I finally was diagnosed after being pregnant and my body went into a cytokine storm, I lost my chance to have children, I ended up having Hashimoto's disease, Degenerative Disc disease, and my body started to shut down during my first trimester. I am 6ft tall and got down to 119lbs. My husband and I went to a special immunologist in Terrace, California. They took 17 vials of blood as we flew there for a day and returned home that evening. In 3 weeks, we had the answer, I have Celiac disease. Once this was known, only my father and husband made efforts to change their way of feeding me. At the family cabin, my stepfather & mother were more worried that I would ruin Thanksgiving Dinner. It wasn't until one of my cousins was diagnosed with Celiac disease. They finally looked into getting Gluten Free flour and taking measures to limit "gluten" in meals. He did nothing but ask for me to pay for my own food and wi-fi when I came to the cabin to stay after our house burned down. When he informed my mother, they proceeding to get into a physical fight and she ended up with a black eye. The is just more trauma for me. Sam had no interest in telling the truth about what he wanted. He lied to my mother that he had asked my husband if I could pay for "food" when he asked Geoffrey if I had money to pay for my wi-fi. My mother hates when he spends so much time on the computer so he lied and said I could pay for my own food. I will remind you I weighed 119lbs at this time. (At 6ft) that is a very sick looking person. Neither parent was worried about my weight, they just fought about how cheap my stepfather was. As my mother was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease in 2014. He had her sign over the will to a trust and added his children. He had no testimonial capacity at the time, so she signed without proper papers. Making this Trust null and void. When I gave my brother my childhood home, my mother stated I would be getting an equal part of inheritance to the house on Race. It currently worth 2.0 million $. I got nothing, and my stepfather has since disowned me b/c of my claim and he knows that my mother would never have left it uneven between my biological brother and myself. She sat me and my husband down, as we lived at the Race Street house and treated and took care of it as our own. My brother took over b/c he was going through a horrific divorce and needed a home so he could get a better custody deal with his soon to be ex-wife who was a Assist DA for Denver. She used the girls against him, and he & I were the primary caregivers. We, Judd and I spent the most time with them pre the divorce. Once Judd moved into the house, he threw all of my mother, grandmother and my family heirlooms out to the Goodwill. Nobody told my mother about this as she was going through cancer treatment and had Alzheimer's disease in her mother and her sister. My stepfather and biological brother took advantage of this matter, as I called a "family council" that my brother just never could make it to at the last moment. All of the furnishing, kitchen ware, everything was in the house my brother just moved into. He had had 2 weddings, I chose to elope b/c my stepfather ruined my brother's first wedding by talking about his relationship with my brother in front of my dad and his entire family, insulting him and having my grandfather leave the ceremony. It was a disaster. My stepfather just plays dumb and blames my father for the slight. I was the only child not to have a wedding. So, my mother and stepfather never had to pay for a thing. My mother had had an agreement with my father he'd pay for college and all medical issues with their kids, myself and Judd. So truly my mother never had to pay for anything big for me in her entire life. I am looking for anyone that has had a similar story, where they grew up in a household that had a baker that regularly milled flour and ate gluten. What happened to you? DId you suffer from different auto-immune diseases b/c of living with a baker using "gluten" Please let me know. I have been looking into legal ways to get my stepfather to give me what my mother had promised, and he erased. Thank you for listening to my story. Jane Donnelly  
    • trents
      Possibly gluten withdrawal. Lot's of info on the internet about it. Somewhat controversial but apparently gluten plugs into the same neuro sensors as opiates do and some people get a similar type withdrawal as they do when quitting opiates. Another issue is that gluten-free facsimile flours are not fortified with vitamins and minerals as is wheat flour (in the U.S. at least) so when the switch is made to gluten-free facsimile foods, especially if a lot of processed gluten-free foods are being used as substitutes, vitamin and mineral deficiencies can result. There is also the possibility that she has picked up a virus or some but that is totally unrelated to going gluten-free.
    • Sheila mellors
      I asked about the new fruit and nut one and the Dietician said yes I could eat it safely. Hooe this helps
    • Heatherisle
      Daughter has started gluten free diet this week as per gastroenterologists suggestion. However says she feels more tired and like she’s been hit by a train. I suggested it could be the change to gluten free or just stress from the endoscopy last week catching up with her. Just wondering if feeling more tired is a normal reaction at this stage. I suppose it’s possible some gluten might have been present without realising. Have tried to reassure her it’s not going to resolve symptoms overnight
    • DAR girl
      Looking for help sourcing gluten-free products that do not contain potato or corn derived ingredients. I have other autoimmune conditions (Psoriatic Arthritis and Sjogrens) so I’m looking for prepared foods as I have fatigue and cannot devote a lot of time to baking my own treats. 
×
×
  • Create New...