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Is Celiac Always Doing Damage Even Before The "trigger?"


jessthirtytwo

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jessthirtytwo Apprentice

I have been wondering for a while and havent been able to find the answer anywhere: if one is predisposed to celiac disease, is damage being done before symptoms are present or does the damage to the small intestine begin once symptoms occur?

For example: I ate gluten normally for 20 years and was then exposed to my trigger event, only after did I have symptoms. was my diet for those 20 years doing damage to my intestine or only after the disease was "triggered."

Just wondering :)


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Dunno. It's very clear that in some people damage can occur without symptoms, a known phenomenon called silent celiac. At the same time I've heard that celiac disease can strike at any time, that you don't need to have that same reaction from birth. It's possible you've been a celiac with damage for many many years, or at the same time you started noticing symptoms was when it actually started to happen.

gatita Enthusiast

I for sure don't have an answer to that one but just wanted to say it's a really good question!

I wonder that myself because my own case of gluten intolerance came on quite suddenly last year. I was happily eating all the wheat I wanted before that... or so I thought.

cap6 Enthusiast

From what I understand......the damage is going on and steadly becomes worse until a trigger throws it into a fiull blown attack. I may be wrong..... but from what I have read it is slowly going on. From my own experience I can say that eating gluten slowly started to make me sick. I would have a sandwich and then feel sick maybe once a week, then it was twice a week....and so on. Interesting quesion

ravenwoodglass Mentor

There are some folks with celiac who have no intestinal damage at all. Folks with DH are an example of this. While most of the attention to celiac damage is focused on the damage to the GI system it is an autoimmune disease that can impact pretty much any organ in the body. So IMHO yes it can be impacting folks before the GI symptoms appear. A couple examples of symptoms not often thought to be celiac related would be migraines, psychiatric issues like depression and anxiety, joint and muscle pain and skin problems like rashes. Many don't realize they are celiac related until after celiac diagnosis when the problems disappear gluten free.

mushroom Proficient

Many don't realize they are celiac related until after celiac diagnosis when the problems disappear gluten free.

Or when they don't entirely disappear, but are so much better. I didn't even know what my 'rash' was for all those years and didn't explore it because it didn't bother me, until it suddenly exploded into full-blown psoriasis :unsure:

Em314 Explorer

I for sure don't have an answer to that one but just wanted to say it's a really good question!

I wonder that myself because my own case of gluten intolerance came on quite suddenly last year. I was happily eating all the wheat I wanted before that... or so I thought.

To my understanding, food allergies can genuinely come and go, basically out of nowhere. I'm not super-clear on whether you "always have celiac" but don't necessarily know until some kind of triggering event, or if you just have the predisposition for it and don't actually have the disease until it's triggered, either.

I suspect more often than not, people who are diagnosed celiac "had" the disease before they had overt symptoms of it, but that doesn't answer the core question. I know my more obvious symptoms got a whole lot worse after a period of intense stress, but personally, in retrospect, I suspect I've always had the disease, but that it was less severe/more "silent"/had diferent symptoms when I was younger.


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