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Msg--i'm Having A Panic Attack


weathertopmama

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weathertopmama Rookie

Actually I'm trying very hard to calm down.

I read about 30 pages of the 'big' thread and got the info about msg. I figured out in 1997 that I had a sensitivity to msg. What I didn't know that it was in 'everything'. Shocking stuff.

Just now I read something that is making me cry and making it hard to breathe. I just read that they started spraying that ($*%7# Auxigro indiscriminately on any and all crops in 1997 and 1998. It was in 1999 that I became violently ill and began the ill health journey that led to the celiac diagnosis.

It started with one big episode involving fried chicken. I had restaurant fried chicken which was very rare for us, and within half an hour I thought I was dying. I thought I was having a heart attack: tightness and chest pain, numbness down left arm, sweating, panicking, feeling like I would die. I had never had those symptoms in my life. DH rushed me to the ER and all the tests were normal. They said it was 'stress'. That was during a very happy point in my life, so I knew it wasn't stress, but whatever.

Within a couple of months, I was just getting worse and worse. Asthma, a tightness and pain in my back and chest that wouldn't quit, and I had always been soooo healthy. I was a vegetarian at the time and eating LOTS of non-organic fruits and vegetables. The chest tightness and pain was determined to be pleurisy, and as my breathing got worse and worse (always in the evening after meals) the doctors put me on steroids.

Steroids wrecked my health. They triggered the celiac disease, caused enormous weight gain and change in body shape, affected my ability to heal, and changed my personality. I was on them for over a year (high doses)

I'm sorry, this is too long and disjointed and I'm not even brain foggy right now. I feel fine physically, I'm just so overwhelmed with info that I have to get this out :(

Anyway two times since the steroids, I have enjoyed weight loss, no bloating, no depression, vitality, good digestion, and overall excellent health. I had devised my own 'health program' based on trial, error, and research.

I need to try something similar again now, my weight is back up and I don't feel as well. But I haven't been sure what to do. Which program should I follow, they were both extremely strict and hard to keep up, and they were so different. Why did those self-prescribed programs work? I've wondered a million times.

NOW I KNOW.

As I said, I've been reading everything I can find, including the msgmyths site. Guess what my two homemade programs that worked, have in common? They were both MSG free and gluten free. I eliminated MSG without realizing it, both times. What a shockeroo.

At least now I know what to do. I am planning on starting the msg test diet ASAP. Thank goodness it is cheap, cheaper than the standard gluten-free diet. But what a pain.

But first I need to have a good long cry and maybe punch something. I am extremely bothered by the fact that our fruits and vegetables are sprayed with MSG. I buy fresh chicken and beef from farming friends, I guess I need to try to contract with someone to grow my vegetables, too. :( It is outrageous and unreal.

IF ANYONE IS STILL WITH ME, I have some MSG questions.

Is organic produce sprayed with Auxigro? Does the Auxigro usage get labeled anywhere, that I can check if my grocery store frozen green beans etc. are safe?

Thanks for listening. I'm breathing again and I will not let this affect my sleep tonight. I just can't even think about it, all those 'heart' scares and asthma attacks (onset age 26 :rolleyes: ) and 'pleurisy' and steroids etc. when it was probably all the MSG I was unknowingly digesting. What a waste of my life.

Amy


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AndreaB Contributor

Amy,

I invite you to post over at the omg thread that you started reading. Rachel is extremely sensitive to auxigro. She has said it is on organic produce too. It must not be on all of it because there is stuff she can eat, although with her other sensitivities right now, that's extremely limited.

Please come over and jump in......the door is open and the light in on. :)

2kids4me Contributor

Hang in there, if you are right - you may have solved a mystery! You should apply for CSI job. :D

I know how you feel in terms of looking at pages of info - I did that after my daughter was diagnosed celiac. I was mad initially cause I felt it should have been tested for sooner. Then after seeing her return to health, I was happy.

We are now in the process of eliminating casein - at first it seemed to be just lactose but she's back to nausea and diarrhea again. WAIT a minute - holy crap, she ate cucumber and apple today - ...I should try looking at the msg thing too.. come to think of it, she was feeling better the other day, then I gave her heck casue she hadnt had any fruit that day, so she ate an apple at breakfast and was sick by the end of school. Thank you to all who have posted on the msg spraying thing - never knew!!

I hope you feel better soonest

weathertopmama Rookie

"apply for csi" :lol:

Thanks to you both for responding so quickly. I am slowly calming down LOL and the fact is I should be glad I figured it out and I need to be just as proactive as I've been about the gluten thing.

I found farm meat, I can find farm produce. I can sell this place and buy a field dadgumit, this is Indiana. We have good dirt.

I read about the organic being sprayed, too :angry: I fear I'm gonna get a little hungry whilst figuring out where to get food. Thankfully I have a freezer full of farm chicken, I can at least eat that! LOL

I'm going to bed, it is nearly 2 am. :blink: I'll join the grandaddy of all MSG threads tomorrow, and try to meet Rachel. Thank goodness she is trailblazing!

I know for sure I have an MSG problem. I've known that for a long time. What I didn't know was that I'm still ingesting great gobs of it and never knew. Maybe I can get back to that good ol' HEALTH.

Amy :)

Ursa Major Collaborator

Sandy, peel everything.

Amy, I hope you figure it out and get well. Come to think of it, maybe I'll need to do the same thing, I tested to be intolerant to MSG six years ago, and sort of dismissed that until now! I don't buy things that say MSG, but never thought about what you just said. Darn, maybe I'll need to be even more careful (as if my diet isn't restricted enough already).

AndreaB Contributor

Amy,

I'll look for you tomorrow. You don't need to continue reading the past posts unless you want to. :ph34r: We have a running funny that we don't go back or we'll get lost. :P Rachel is on at various times between work and such.

I just read your sig. You homeschool? I just started this year. :)

Ursula,

I saved over the list that was posted on the msg thread if you'd like me to pm a copy of it to you. Or you can come over to the omg thread too.

rinne Apprentice

Amy, welcome, I am sorry you have had such a difficult time with your health.

If I am remembering correctly Rachel said that auxi-gro is like steroids for fruits and vegetables and it is best to avoid any that seem super-sized, organic or conventional. Have you seen those monster strawberries? Like them.


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