Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

A Question For The Mds


Jestgar

Recommended Posts

Jestgar Rising Star

Would any of you considered testing this woman for Celiac?

(I believe this requires subscription to nejm to fully open)

Open Original Shared Link


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Jestgar Rising Star

I decided to post just the symptoms. I don't think that would be a copyright infringement.

A 58-year-old right-handed woman with type 1 diabetes was admitted to the hospital because of a 2-week history of increasing fatigue and word-finding difficulties and a 2-day history of right-arm weakness.

She had been in her usual state of health until 3 years before admission, when an episode of word-finding difficulty occurred, associated with headache and mild right-sided facial weakness. She was admitted to a local hospital, where computed tomography (CT) of the head revealed no abnormalities. Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) revealed a punctate subcortical lesion in the left parietal white matter; magnetic resonance angiography (MRA) revealed no extracranial or intracranial stenosis. The symptoms resolved spontaneously within a few hours. Anticoagulation therapy with heparin followed by warfarin was begun, and she was discharged on the third hospital day. A 24-hour Holter monitor showed no arrhythmia. Several similar episodes occurred over the next 5 months, accompanied by weakness in the right arm and leg, which again resolved in a few hours. Repeated MRI and CT of the head, electrocardiography, and 48-hour cardiac monitoring showed no new abnormalities.

Two years before admission, the patient saw a neurologist at this hospital because of continuing episodes of confusion, word-finding difficulty, right-sided weakness, and fatigue, often accompanied by headaches with photophobia, nausea, and vomiting. Right-sided headaches had occurred intermittently for the past 5 years, preceded by flashes of light in the periphery of her visual fields. Since the first episode of word-finding difficulty, the headaches had been occasionally accompanied by tingling in the right fingers and forearm. She reported clumsiness of her right hand and difficulty with attention, calculation, and memory. Neurologic examination at that time showed diminished peripheral vision bilaterally, mild right ptosis, diminished sensation to pinprick and to light touch on the right side of the face, and a flattened right nasolabial fold. Motor strength was 4/5 in the hands and feet bilaterally and 5/5 elsewhere; deep-tendon reflexes were 1/4 distally and 2/4 proximally. There was no Babinski's sign. Warfarin was discontinued, and aspirin therapy was initiated, after which the patient was free of symptoms through a 1-month follow-up.

Eighteen months before admission, another episode of forgetfulness, word-finding difficulty, and right-sided weakness occurred. MRI showed a 1-cm2 area of increased signal on T2-weighted images of the periventricular white matter of the left occipital lobe, as well as nonspecific changes in periventricular white matter. One year before admission, the patient was admitted to her local hospital because of another strokelike episode. MRI showed areas of hyperintensity on T2-weighted images of the left corona radiata and of the splenium of the corpus callosum, which did not enhance after the administration of contrast material. On lumbar puncture, the cerebrospinal fluid was found to have normal serum chemistry and cell counts; a test for cryptococcal antigen was negative, and one oligoclonal band was detected. Hypercoagulability testing was negative. Aspirin and extended-release dipyridamole were begun.

Five months before admission, the woman was again seen by a neurologist at this hospital. Findings on neurologic examination were unchanged. Repeated MRI showed on T2-weighted images patchy areas of hyperintensity involving the periventricular white matter and the pons, with more prominent lesions in the left corona radiata and corpus callosum. Routine serum chemistry testing, tests for antinuclear antibodies and Lyme antibody, and vitamin B12 levels were normal.

Three months before admission, headache and word-finding difficulties recurred, and the patient was admitted to this hospital. Repeated MRI showed a new area of hyperintensity on T2-weighted images in the posterior left corona radiata. Positron-emission tomography with 18F-fluorodeoxyglucose showed diffuse hypometabolism in the cerebral cortex. Magnetic resonance spectroscopy showed no abnormalities. Lumbar puncture was performed to collect cerebrospinal-fluid specimens, for which serum chemistry, cell counts, cultures, and electrophoresis were normal. Tests for anti-Ro and anti-La antibodies, for IgG antibodies against hepatitis C, for hypercoagulability, and for methylmalonic acid were negative, as were serum and urine toxicology screens and genetic tests for the NOTCH3 mutation and for mitochondrial myopathy, encephalopathy, lactic acidosis, and strokelike episodes (MELAS). Skin and muscle biopsies were performed; pathological examination showed thickening of the basal lamina around small blood vessels, but a specific diagnosis was not made. Weekly injections of interferon beta-1a were begun. The patient was discharged to a rehabilitation facility on the 10th hospital day and went home 3 weeks later.

Two months later, she again had fatigue. During a 2-week period, she thought that her right-sided weakness had progressed, and on the day of admission, she had another episode of word-finding difficulty, headache, and weakness in both hands. She came to the emergency department of this hospital. While there, she became agitated, mute, and unable to follow commands. In response to noxious stimuli, she grimaced and withdrew her right arm but not her right leg. The results of CT and CT angiography were normal. She was admitted to the hospital.

Diabetes had been diagnosed 30 years earlier, during pregnancy. Glycemic control had been difficult to achieve. The patient had been treated at various times with multiple daily insulin injections and insulin-pump therapy, and on admission she was receiving a basal bolus regimen of insulin glargine, 18 units at night, and insulin lispro before meals according to a sliding scale. Her median glycated hemoglobin level over the previous 4 years was 9.1% and had ranged from a low of 6.8% to a high of 11.2%. Selected laboratory-test values are shown in Table 1. Systemic complications of diabetes included autonomic neuropathy with orthostatic hypotension and severe gastroparesis, peripheral neuropathy, nephropathy, and retinopathy. She had hypertension, coronary artery disease with a history of a silent myocardial infarction, congestive heart failure, and intermittent atrial fibrillation. A diagnosis of hypothyroidism had been made 35 years earlier. Other medical problems included depression, hepatitis B, shoulder and hip bursitis, and a duodenal ulcer.

Canadian Karen Community Regular

I saw this in my NEJM newsletter I get and even with just the 100 word abstract, it screamed out celiac to me!

Karen

tarnalberry Community Regular

I don't think it screams celiac at all. I'm not saying that it couldn't be, but it really isn't all that similar to the pattern that is common (not even most common) for celiac. And this is a reason it's hard to diagnose - the pattern is very disperse. There are a couple of things that, once other options are exhausted, say "yeah, test for that too", but no, not top of the list. And *definitely* not a first presentation.

But I'm no doctor.

Guest Doll

Yes. I would screen her for Celiac. But that doesn't mean that's her main or only problem. Long-term Type 1 diabetes damages the brain and nerves, and she also has advanced heart disease. She sounds overall in rough shape, and her known problems could account for some her symptoms. Her A1c was *horrible*. She might also be developing MS or some form of autoimmune vasculitis. Could be Celiac, but could also be more than that or something else.

Jestgar Rising Star

I found it curious that it wasn't even part of the differential...

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Thoughtidjoin's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      5

      Dried Chickpeas

    2. - trents replied to ainsleydale1700's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Confused about HLA-DQ Celiac gene test result

    3. - Scott Adams replied to ainsleydale1700's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Confused about HLA-DQ Celiac gene test result

    4. - Aretaeus Cappadocia replied to Thoughtidjoin's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      5

      Dried Chickpeas

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,435
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    LexiBusch
    Newest Member
    LexiBusch
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Aretaeus Cappadocia, My favorite source of B12 is liver.  😺 I react to nutritional yeast the same way as if I were glutened.  Casein, a protein in dairy, and nutritional yeast have protein segments that match certain antigenic protein segments in gluten.  The proteins in rice, corn (maize), and chicken meat have them as well.   Some people with Celiac might tolerate them without a problem, but I need to avoid them.  For those still having symptoms, cutting these out of our diet may improve symptoms. 
    • trents
      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @ainsleydale1700! First, it is very unlikely, given your genetic results, that you have celiac disease. But it is not a slam dunk. Second, there are some other reasons besides having celiac disease that your blood antibody testing was positive. There are some diseases, some medications and even (for some people) some foods (dairy, the protein "casein") that can cause elevated celiac blood antibody test scores. Usually, the other causes don't produce marginally high test scores and not super high ones. Having said that, by far, the most common reason for elevated tTG-IGA celiac antibody test scores (this is the most common test ordered by doctors when checking for celiac disease) is celiac disease itself. Please post back and list all celiac blood antibody tests that were done with their scores and with their reference ranges. Without the reference ranges for negative vs. positive we can't tell much because they vary from lab to lab. Third, and this is an terrible bum steer by your doc, for the biopsy results to be valid, you need to have been eating generous amounts of gluten up to the day of the procedure for several weeks.  Having said all that, it sounds most likely that you have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity) as opposed to celiac disease. The two share many common symptoms but NCGS is not autoimmune in nature and doesn't damage the lining of the small bowel. What symptoms do you have? Do you have any blood work that is out of norm like iron deficiency that would suggest celiac disease?
    • ainsleydale1700
    • Scott Adams
      HLA testing can definitely be confusing. Classic celiac disease risk is most strongly associated with having the full HLA-DQ2 or HLA-DQ8 heterodimer, which requires specific DQA1 and DQB1 genes working together. Your report shows you are negative for the common DQ2 and DQ8 combinations, but positive for DQB102, which is one component of the DQ2 pair. On its own, DQB102 does not usually form the full DQ2 molecule most strongly linked to celiac disease, which is likely why your doctor said you do not carry the typical “celiac genes.” However, genetics are only part of the picture. A negative gene test makes celiac disease much less likely, but not absolutely impossible in rare cases. More importantly, both antibody testing and biopsy are only reliable when someone is actively eating gluten; being gluten-free for four years before testing can cause both bloodwork and intestinal biopsy to appear falsely negative. Given your positive antibodies and ongoing symptoms, it may be reasonable to seek clarification from a gastroenterologist experienced in celiac disease about whether proper gluten exposure was done before testing and whether additional evaluation is needed.
    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      I agree with your post and have had similar experiences. I'm commenting to add the suggestion of also using nutritional yeast as a supplement. It's a rich source of B vitamins and other nutrients, and some brands are further supplemented with additional B12. I sprinkle a modest amount in a variety of savory recipes.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.