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  1. Rachel,

    If you ever experiment with making different kids of ice cream, see if you can invent an ice cream called:

    "Arctic Altoids" :D

    Hugs.

    Karen

    :lol::lol::ph34r:

    And more on histamine, from Open Original Shared Link

    Many Foods Contain Histamine Or Cause The Body To Release Histamine

    Histamine is a natural substance produced by the body and is also present in many foods. It is released by the body during times of stress and allergy.

    In an allergic response, an allergen stimulates the release of antibodies, which attach themselves to mast cells. When histamine is released from the mast cells it may cause one or more of the following symptoms:

    • Eyes to itch, burn, or become watery

    • Nose to itch, sneeze, and produce more mucus

    • Skin to itch, develop rashes or hives

    • Sinuses to become congested and cause headaches

    • Lungs to wheeze or have spasms

    • Stomach to experience cramps and diarrhea

    This chemical (vasoactive amine) is able to create such havoc with the many body functions because it is contained in almost all body tissues. The main body tissues include the lungs, skin, intestinal mucosa, mast cells, and basophils.

    The release of histamine can be induced by almost any allergen.

    Examples include inhalant allergens, drugs, chemicals, insect venoms, and even some foods.

    Histamine in Foods

    There are many foods that contain histamine or cause the body to release histamine when ingested. Histamine in food may be responsible for some cases of food intolerance.

    Histamine Rich Foods Include:

    • Anchovies

    • Avocados

    • Beer

    • Canned Foods

    • Cheeses

    • Cidars

    • Eggplant

    • Fermented Beverages

    • Fermented Foods

    • Fish

    • Herring

    • Jams and Preserves

    • Mackerel

    • Meats

    • Processed Meats

    • Salami

    • Sardines

    • Sauerkraut

    • Sausage

    • Some Oriental Foods

    • Sour Cream

    • Spinach

    • Tomatoes

    • Tuna

    • Vegetables

    • Vermouth

    • Vinegars

    • Wines

    • Yeast extract

    • Yogurt

    Histamine Releasing Foods Include:

    • Alcohol

    • Bananas

    • Certain Nuts

    • Chocolate

    • Eggs

    • Fish

    • Milk

    • Papayas

    • Pineapple

    • Shellfish

    • Strawberries

    • Tomatoes

    Histamine Poisoning

    At times the ingestion of high concentrations of histamine may lead to histamine poisoning. It is also known as Scombroid Poisoning. High levels of histamine occur in spoilage of foods such as fish products.

  2. I came across this when I searched for "low histamine foods"...someone has probably already posted it, but I thought I'd post again anyway, lol:

    Open Original Shared Link

    Which says this:

    Histamine Restricted Diet

    Research published in the Journal of Nutritional & Environmental Medicine (Vol 11, no.4, 249-262) into the effects of a histamine restricted diet on allergy symptoms of patients at Vancouver Hospital, Canada, showed some unexpected but interesting ‘food/mood’ findings.

    Unlike an allergic reaction to a food, a food intolerance reaction depends on the individual’s sensitivity threshold as well as how much of a problem food they consume. So, this study looked into the effects of a 4-week low-histamine diet that avoided histamine-containing foods and histamine-releasing foods (see box) in order to reduce the total load of histamine in the body.

    The research was primarily aimed at studying the effect on allergic symptoms such as urticaria (hives), angiodema (swelling) and pruritus (itching). 61% of the people in the study reported a significant improvement to these symptoms but, according to Dr Janice Joneja of the Allergy Nutrition Clinic at Vancouver Hospital, there was also another ‘surprising report of considerable improvement’.

    This unexpected finding was in the benefits experienced by all three of the 44 people taking part in the study who had also suffered ‘panic-like attacks’ as well as their physical, symptoms. Prior to undertaking the diet, they had suffered feelings of overwhelming anxiety, increased heart rate, clammy skin, feelings of ‘I have to get out of here’ or, in one case, even fainting.

    After 4 weeks on the special diet all three of these research participants remained completely free from such symptoms as long as they followed the histamine-restricted diet. And these benefits were experienced despite the fact that they had suffered symptoms frequently (in one case daily) prior to starting the diet.

    One possible explanation for the effect of histamine on feelings of anxiety is thought to be due to the vasodilation, or widening of blood vessels, that is associated with high histamine levels. This would lead to hypotension, or low blood pressure, which the body attempts to compensate for by increasing the heart rate, leading to feelings of anxiety.

    Dr Joneja advises ‘until a more definitive randomised, controlled trial can be completed, others who suffer similarly may achieve at least some degree of relief by following the histamine-restricted diet. The foods eliminated from this type of diet can be easily replaced with others of equivalent nutrient value and … because the response will be observed quite quickly, a period of 4 weeks on the diet will be sufficient for an individual to determine whether dietary manipulation will help in the management of their symptoms’.

    The small number of people involved means that these findings are not considered statistically significant. However, for the three people concerned there has been a 100% improvement in how they feel, apparently entirely due to a change in what they were eating.

    And this site (it's a PDF so just posting the link):

    Open Original Shared Link

    Rinne - beautiful picture.

    Oh no, I haven't read the most recent update on Megan...off to go read!

  3. Donna, thank you for that post about "Inflammation Syndrome", I think I will buy it as arthritic inflammation is a major problem for me.

    ...

    Today I spent with the "Bag Ladies", we have known eachother for ten years now and our name comes because we all have the same bag. :lol: One of the women travels to Indonesia and she brought us all the same beautiful bags. We talked today about renting a Tuscan Villa, can't you just see five middle aged women all with the same bag walking through the airport? :lol::lol::lol:

    You're welcome! The Bag Ladies... :lol: That's cute. My friend and I went shopping once...we kind of split up for a while but met up again in the line for the dressing rooms...we looked at what each other had...we had the same clothes to try on! :lol: We ended up only buying one item that was the same...I bought it to wear to church so she promised not to wear it to church and I promised never to wear it to her classroom, lol.

    OMG!!!

    I've turned into an ice cream FREAK!!! I just cannot stop....up to about a quart a day. Is this normal? :unsure:

    BTW...Vincent it tastes great w/out the vanilla....just plain base is good. :)

    :lol::lol::lol: No, I don't think it's normal, but what IS in Rachelville! :lol:

  4. Donna: Thanks so much for your "book report", I printed that off. Lots of information I can use there and seems when I try to read a book or?? I find myself later waking up from a nap, as if that is what I intended or what I needed?? I am also glad for the 'sugar quote', have been using more maple syup & stevia even if having problem liking the stevia, leaves me with an aftertaste if use too much. It is very sweet!! What is agave?

    Posting prematurely, lol, as Susan would say, so if someone already addressed this I'll find out in a few minutes. :lol: I feel the same about Stevia...I've been trying it more lately too and find I actually like it as long as I don't put too much. I've just wondered if it might contribute to the histamine thing for me since I'm allergic to grasses and trees and this is an herb. Same for the Agave. Agave is a plant, I think in the cactus family or related to it. It is almost like honey but not as strong (to me anyway). I find I don't need much.

    Julie and Donna -thank you so much for the information tonight. I was bummed to hear about sauerkraut-was going to try the fresh to get some of the healthy bacteria rinne had posted about yesterday. Are you bothered by it, rinne?

    You're welcome...I'm still confused about what is high and what isn't high in histamine, but I am pretty sure yesterday was a high histamine day, lol. By the time I went to bed my leg were unbearably itchy!

  5. Donna, I have eaten some fruits that were listed on some websites as fruits to avoid and then on other websites as fruits that are allowed (i.e. nectarines and peaches, and I did fine with them). I think there is some questions as to what is correct. For the most part all of the lists have several things that are the same, bananas, avocados, wine, fermented products, deli meat, fish, cheese, chocolate etc. and I am staying away from those major offenders that contain naturally occuring histamine or that cause a release of histamine from the mast cells.

    I have a new love, sprouted corn tortillas from Fodd For Life. Omg they are good. Ummmm! :lol:

    That's the site. I still do eat some of those things you listed, but fortunately not everyday...I think I'll try without them all for a few weeks and see what difference that makes. I'll have to look for those tortillas. :)

  6. Hmmm....I'm just sitting here drinking my water for the test and all of a sudden for no apparant reason my head is swelling and not feeling too good. I've been drinking Aquafina after all the talk about water challenges and right now I didnt have enough so drank 2 bottles Aquafina and once I switched to Arrowhead for my 3rd bottle I'm noticeably reacting to the Arrowhead. It doesnt taste as good either. I think Arrowhead's water is "dirty". <_<

    Oh NO!!! You haven't had the alien baby scan yet have you? Hopefully the alien baby won't notice the dirty water!

  7. Donna,

    What list are you following? All the lists I seen show plums as being high in histamine. :huh:

    It was from one of the websites that Julie (I think) posted about 20-30 pages ago, lol. I'm sorry to say that I didn't check out any of the sites you mentioned (you did mention some didn't you...talk about brain farts, lol) when you mentioned them and then I couldn't find them in this novel sized thread. :ph34r::lol:

  8. Thanks, I think the scd diet sounds very healing. Have you been on it long? Anyone else here still on it? I read up on the book on Amazon last night and sounds like it even helps cholesterol. The Maker's Diet sounds like it has grains. I'm off grains, dairy, soy and most corn and nightshades. I have a multiple glass yogurt maker but haven't used it for years- I don't even remember how to use it. What kind do you have? LL

    I'm not still on it, but I do credit it for helping my digestive system to calm down enough to almost feel "normal". My diahhrea is gone (except for ocassional mishaps) and I'm not having as many abdominal pains. I did the diet for about 5 weeks and I think I started it at just the right time...my intestines were starting to heal from gluten/dairy free and I think this just helped that happen a little quicker.

  9. Staring dingos and staring plums :lol::lol::lol:

    You know, a thought on sugar (some of you mentioned about having a problem with sugar in the last couple of pages). I remember reading something at one of the links for a low histamine diet and it keeps coming back to me, like another piece of the puzzle:

    "Its also important (at least initially) when on a low histamine diet to eliminate sugar from your diet. This is because sugar causes your body to release adrenaline. If your histamine level is high two things can happen when you eat sugar. The first is that your adrenaline level may spike causing; nervous energy, worsening dizziness symptoms, and possibly even a panic attack. The second is that the sugar may cause your body to use up its already (histamine) depleted supply of adrenaline. This may cause periods of very low energy or even exhaustion within an hour or so after eating sugar. Fruit sugar (fructose), honey, and real maple sugar won't increase your adrenaline level, so they're OK to use instead of sugar."

    Not that "not eating" sugar is big news, but it puts it into perspective as it relates to histamine, allergies, reactions, and the nervous system.

    Oooooh, my scientific self is coming back to me! It had gone away for a little while...

    I just know sugar is one of the keys for me, but I'm just so darned addicted! Fortunately I like fruit and honey (wonder if Agave is okay) and real maple syrup.

    :ph34r: Plums are small so you can eat more of them right?

    Hoping, hoping, hoping. :lol:

  10. Well, I am happy...as I was going over the list of low histamine foods (making a grocery list for Saturday), I noticed that plums are on there. Where I work there, they have quite a lot of shrubbery...last year someone told me that there were some plum trees on the property...never knew where they were until this morning. There are tons out there and they have lots of plums on them. I've had two so far...trying really hard not to eat the third one that is staring at me (staring dingos and staring plums)... They are sweet but are still pretty firm. Yum. Eeek, must eat the third one, lol.

  11. Wow Donna--thanks! :D I already do a lot of what the doctor suggests--if I could only give up the sugar....

    You're welcome...I do a lot on that list too.

    I do want to mention that he is actually not a doctor, he is a nutritional reporter and contributing editor for Body & Soul and Let's Live magazines. He has published some scientific articles in Free Radical Biology & Medicine, Journal of Orthomoloecular Medicine (say that 10 times fast), Medical Hypotheses and other journals. The forward in his book is written by two MDs. He says: "I have also published original research articles in medical journals, something rare for nutrition writers..."

    What is "pilates" ? Sound liek an exercise program?

    Yep, that's exactly what it is. Developed by Joseph Pilates many, many years ago...did I get that right Julie? :P

  12. Oh Donna.... Oh Donna

    You should try the mat workout, you might be surprised. I love it! Of course I was used to yoga and working out with the mat on the floor was familiar for me, but every single muscle on my body is talking to me, hello! It really is effective, and fun.

    :lol: Yoga is the other one I haven't warmed up to yet, but keep thinking I should like it, so keep trying it. It hurts, lol. I lift weights and do cardio at home, but don't see a lot of muscle definition so keep thinking some of the yoga moves would help that.

  13. Yes Donna, SIXTY heat-related deaths in our state - about 15 in Fresno County so far. The morgues are full beyond capacity, doubling up on gurneys and working overtime.....so there will be more.... :(

    I was starting to wonder if the reason I haven't been feeling well was because of the heat. I don't know what heat exhaustion symptoms are, but I wouldn't doubt it if some of what I was feeling was on the list. I went to bed at 7:30 last night!!!!

    Julie--Pilates most definately does work. I have my own machine here at home the Premier XP. I'm not using it right now because I have a large fibroid that causes pain, and since the Pilates focuses on the "core", working out on it aggrevates the situation.

    I got to use a reformer at my physical therapist's office last year...loved it and wished I had space at home. I haven't warmed up to the pilates floor work yet, but I keep trying to see if my mind has changed. :lol:

  14. Hi Susan, glad you are back! I heard that statewide there were 60 deaths attributed to the heat. Wow...I think that was a state number not nationwide.

    Okay everyone, for those who were interested in the Inflammation Syndrome book I have been reading (not finished yet...dreading reading the next few chapters on supplements, lol), here is some information:

    From the Inflammation Syndrome, by Jack Challem (stuff not in quotes are in my own words):

    Suggests high-sensitivity C-reactive protein test to measure level of inflammation and risk of suffering a heart attack and sed rate. Although both are general indicators rather than pointing to a specific type of inflammation.

    I liked this statement from him, lol: “…though it may surprise you: while I believe the majority of physicians are sincere and well-meaning, most do not understand the fundamental role of nutrition in health. Medical schools teach virtually nothing about the practical, preventive, and therapeutic uses of nutrition and supplements.”

    He says that people (both patients and doctors) routinely confuse the causes of inflammation with its triggers and that the causes of inflammation are often related to dietary imbalances or deficiencies, which prime the immune system for a powerful and chronic inflammatory reaction. “In contrast, inflammation triggers are the events that precipitate a specific inflammatory response after the body is already primed for an overreaction….” These are some of the triggers he mentions (and after each of these he gives some specific examples): Age-related wear and tear (oh no), physical injuries, infections, environmental stresses, allergies and food sensitivities, dietary imbalances and deficiencies.

    He talks about pro- and anti-inflammatory counterbalances. For instance, the typical American diet is high in Omega-6 fatty acids, which are necessary and as long as they were balanced by the healthier Omega-3 fatty acids, aren’t bad. Common omega-6 foods: corn, safflower, peanut, cottonseed, and soy oils and in processed and packaged foods. He says: “The omega-6 fatty acids stimulate the body’s production of many other inflammation-causing chemicals, such as prostaglandin E2.” Omega-3: dark green leafy veggies and flaxseed, coldwater fish like salmon and herring. He says: “…the omega-3s encourage the body’s production of inflammation-suppressing compounds. They help remind the body to turn inflammatory reactions off when they are no longer needed.” He also says omega-9 fatty acids work with the omega-3s as anti-inflammatory compounds. Omega-9: olive oil, avocados, macadamia nuts, and macadamia nut oil.

    He’s big on the paleo type diet with a “balanced intake (1:1 ratio) of pro- and anti-inflammatory fats and very high intake of anti-inflammatory vitamins and minerals.” (he said at least in at least one other place in the book that the paleos ate a huge amount of vitamins and fiber mostly from a HUGE intake of veggies and fruits)…not sure we could get that same nutritional value today from our current crops—that’s my personal take.

    He mentions celiac and gluten intolerance in a few places and noted: “Archeologists have noted that the health of humans, based largely on analysis of ancient bones, took a turn for the worse after gluten-containing grains became popular foods. Osteoporosis, arthritis, and even birth defects became more common after people began eating grains.” And he goes on: “According to Smith (He’s talking about Melissa Diane Smith author of Going Against the Grain), a second family of grain (and legume) proteins, called lectins, may also damage the gut and interfere with nutrient absorption…The bottom line is that most grains are neither the much-heralded staff of life nor the breakfast of champions.”

    He also addresses our meat, lol: “As long as livestock were exclusively grass-fed, their meat and milk yielded a balance of pro- and anti-inflammatory fatty acids. This changed when animals were fed corn, which, as previously noted, increases the animals’ overall fat and saturated fat and reduces anti-inflammatory omega-3 fatty acids.”

    This helps me feel better because I tested positive to cow’s milk antibodies by Enterolabs, but the rest of you can ignore it, lol (he’s talking about points that are relevant in the context of our evolutionary diet): “One is that no species, other than humans over the past ten thousand years, has ever consumed milk beyond infancy. Another is that no species other than humans has ever consumed the milk of another mammal.”

    So in a nutshell, his dietary steps for anti-inflammation are:

    1. Eat a variety of fresh and whole foods.

    2. Eat more fish, especially cold-water varieties.

    3. Eat lean meats (not corn-fed) from free-range chicken and turkey, grass-fed cattle and buffalo, and game meats such as duck and ostrich.

    4. Eat a lot of veggies, the more colorful the better.

    5. Use spices and herbs to flavor foods, and limit your use of salt and pepper.

    6. Use olive oil as your primary cooking oil.

    7. Avoid conventional cooking oils such as corn, safflower, sunflower, and soybean oil, as well as veggie shortening, margarine, and partially hydrogenated oils.

    8. Identify and avoid food allergens.

    9. Avoid or strictly limit intake of food products that contains sugars, such as sucrose or high-fructose corn syrup.

    10. Avoid or limit intake of refined grains.

    11. Snack on nuts and seeds.

    13. When thirsty, drink water (can fit in with our water challenge).

    14. Whenever possible, buy and eat organically raised foods.

    15. To lose weight, reduce both carbohydrates and calories (not much applicable to most in Rachelville, but applies to me, lol).

  15. Well, I think we have good news here in California...it seemed a little cooler yesterday even though my indoor temp was still around 86...I think the humidity was much lower so it felt cooler even though it wasn't by much. Today is supposed to be cooler still and they say the overnight temperatures should be lower too. That's what's giving us the big problems...our transformers are not the kind that do well with constant heat...and the overnight temps weren't cooling off enough to give them a rest, so they've been blowing up. My power didn't go off (not even a brown out) yesterday and it was much more comfortable to sleep last night. The cooling trend is supposed to continue through the weekend and our temps should be close to normal which is around 85ish in the day and in the upper 60s at night (that's the South Bay normal range--where Rachel and Susan are at are usually a bit higher I think).

    I'm also feeling a bit better today although still a bit dizzy. My sinuses have really been congested so I'm hoping that the cooler weather will help that.

    On the name thing...I've had so many people sing that old song "Oh Donna" to me...doesn't bother me, but it's just funny.

  16. sauce: water, orange juice concentrate, distilled vinegar, modified corn starch, dehrdrated garlic, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, salt, sucralose non-nutritive sweetner, dehydrated bell pepper, xanathan gum, sodium benzoate flavor, spice, citric acid, and extractives of paprika chicken white meat, water, modified tapioca starch, salt, sodium phosphate.

    Does anyone see something gluten here? I don't have the package of the taffy I ate. The only other thing I ate was frozen yogurt from Dryers, praline and cream.

    The only thing I can see is the distilled vinegar...there is some reason why it's necessary to avoid vinegar unless one knows how it's made but I can't remember if it was because it might be processed with corn or with gluten...does anyone know? :)

    Ok I need some support from my rachelville coinhabitants. I had this great mini vacationa dn woke up today in the best mood. I don't get D when I get sick but the opposite and I was really scared flying would just kill me since it can affect normal people. But I woke up happy and then I went to the broom and was just on cloud nine( god the things that make me happy are so funny) Anyways Breakfast was fine but at lunce I got so sick I didn't have anything weird but I realized I used the same cucumber I ahd yesturday and yesturday I felt I was having a mild reaction to somehting and coulden't figure out what it was no I am sure it was th ecucumber. I feel so sick and have since 12 today . I am sos frustrrated because cucumber is the one thing that almost always sits welll with me . I'm alaways careful about where I buy tem and never buy them with that waxy crap on the outside. I feel so frustrated becaus ewhen I get sick from something like that I feel like I have no control over being sick at all. I was so happy this morning and felt like I had made a positive trun because it had been a few days without a major reaction to anything which is a big deal for me. I feel like I was just knocked back down.

    Miamia

    Gosh miamia, I'm so sorry! I just hate that this stuff hits us like this...it's one thing to know where it's coming from, but I just hate that even when we we're careful it still gets us.

    Rave on, MacDuff!!! When you're right, you're right!

    In my capacity as Distinguished Chair of Literary and Historical Oddities Department at UCCF, I bring to the attention of all citizens of Rachelville that there was a time, within recent memory, when children actually played. Alien though the concept may be to modern minds, children were not organized into structured activities, supervised by politically correct adults. Yes, dear ones, it's true; children once enjoyed the freedom to play as they pleased, and what's more, (I hope you are all sitting down.) they had FUN!

    As you may have surmised, I was one of those children. We went bare-footed all summer; we climbed trees, hung from branches, and built tree houses from the planks of fallen fences; we grabbed hold of sturdy vines and swung down mountain sides; we played Capture the Flag, Crack the Whip, Mother May I, and Aunt Dinah's Dead; on extremely hot days we played Monopoly on a shaded porch; we played Pirates, Gypsies, Cowboys and Indians, and Little House on the Prairie - from the books, not from the TV adaptations; we pulled wagons along neighborhood sidewalks, collecting "tin foil" to support the war effort; we rode bikes and skated on those sidewalks, suffering our scrapes and bruises as just temporary nuisances; we played impromtu games of softball with scruffed-up balls and falling-apart mitts, and if our quarrels broke up the game, our mothers didn't rush out to impose peace; and sometimes we did the unthinkable - the thing that would raise horror in the minds of today's grownups - sometimes we lay on our backs in the clover, gazed upon the sky and clouds, AND DID NOTHING AT ALL!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D

    FREEDOM, SWEET FREEDOM!

    Cissie

    Yes, I sort of remember those days...it was a long time ago, lol. I wasn't into sports much, but I did play. I played on my own and with friends and actually used my imagination. I WAS fun!!!!

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