Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Could I Be Gluten Intolerant?


strings

Recommended Posts

strings Rookie

I've always had the occasional bloating, abdominal pain, gassy, stomach rumbling for yrs but I never really payed attention to it. I thought it was mostly stress related as I have social anxiety, depression and OCD.

I also have chronic headaches, migraines at times, eczema on face, sometimes muscles cramps for no reason, fatigue... Mostly feeling drained daily.

I came across about gluten free diets as I was looking for answers about my eczema asI've had it for 8 yrs and it's frustrating.

I've done an allergy test (blood test) and was negative for everything so I'm not sure whats going on with me. For 4 days now I've gone mostly gluten free, although I do remember eating rye bread and a burrito last week and I got severe abdominal pains, very gassy and diarrhoea. But I had a pizza last night and had no symptoms at all, so as I said before, it's not constant which makes me think I may not have gluten intolerance?

My eczema has got a lot worse too with my lack of gluten intake the last few days... Could that mean anything?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



nvsmom Community Regular

I'm afraid allergy testing won't tell you whether you have celiac disease or not.  Allergies are based on an immunoglobulin E (IgE) immune response but celiac disease is an IgA and IgG immune response to gluten. They are quite separate issues.

 

The symptoms you describe could be due to gluten intolerance but it's very likely that eating gluten-free for four days won't have much of an effect on your symptoms beyond a lessening of stomach pain or possibly bloating. You will need to be gluten-free for quite some time before symptoms resolve, and symptoms like joint pain or cognitive issues can take months to years before they improve.

 

Most people need to be gluten-free for at least three months before starting to assess whether it has improved their health.  Going gluten-free longer is better; 6 months seems to be long enough for most people to see most symptoms improve. I personally had some symptoms get worse at 3 months gluten-free and had to wait for over half a year to see real improvement in some areas.

 

Remember too, that even if a celiac doesn't have immediate symptoms after accidentally consuming gluten, that gluten is setting off an autoimmune attack in the body that can take weeks to reolve. Auto-antibodies can linger for months after going gluten-free... patience is a key thing when treating this disease.

 

BUT, before going gluten-free I think you should request celiac disease blood tests (and possible an endoscopic biopsy) from your doctor. If you are gluten-free in the weeks before testing, there is a chance of getting false negatives so get tested very soon and try not to be gluten-free... yet.

 

The tests to request are:

  • tTG IgA and IgG
  • DGP IgA and IgG
  • EMA IgA
  • total serum IgA (a control test)
  • AGA IgA and IgG (older and less relable tests)

 

Best wishes in whatever you decide to do.  :)

strings Rookie

That helps out a lot, thank you for that informative reply. :) I'm still getting used to this diet as I haven't gone strictly off gluten, but I've cut out fast foods, dairy and bread out as my previous diet I consumed a lot of bread mainly.

About the tests, I'm not sure if ill go for a biopsy, but is a genetic test quite accurate too? I think that would be a preferred method to go, and perhaps a nutrition deficiency test?

Thanks again

cyclinglady Grand Master

Although accurate, the genetic test will only tell you if you carry the genes for celiac disease.  It won't tell you if you have celiac disease.  You'll need to ask for the celiac blood test panel which NVSMOM listed.  Based on those results, you may or may not need a biopsy.  

GFinDC Veteran

Hi Strings,

 

You can get the blood antibody tests, first off, they are a simple thing, just a little blood as the Dracula says.  Doctors may call it a celiac panel.  Show them the list of tests you want done though, as they sometimes only order one or two tests.  There are more people with NCGI than people with celiac disease, but both conditions share similar symptoms.  Gotcha is there ain't no standard testing for NCGI yet.  Keep eating gluten (wheat, rye, barley, oats) until the blood is drawn for your antibody tests.  If you want the endoscopy, keep eating gluten until that is done.  The nations wheat farmers will thank you! :)  (A little Halloween humour creeping in here.  Get it creeping?)  :)

 

Helpful threads:

FAQ Celiac com
https://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/forum-7/announcement-3-frequently-asked-questions-about-celiac-disease/

Newbie Info 101
https://www.celiac.com/forums/topic/91878-newbie-info-101/

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Thoughtidjoin's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      5

      Dried Chickpeas

    2. - trents replied to ainsleydale1700's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Confused about HLA-DQ Celiac gene test result

    3. - Scott Adams replied to ainsleydale1700's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      3

      Confused about HLA-DQ Celiac gene test result

    4. - Aretaeus Cappadocia replied to Thoughtidjoin's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      5

      Dried Chickpeas

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,435
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    LexiBusch
    Newest Member
    LexiBusch
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Aretaeus Cappadocia, My favorite source of B12 is liver.  😺 I react to nutritional yeast the same way as if I were glutened.  Casein, a protein in dairy, and nutritional yeast have protein segments that match certain antigenic protein segments in gluten.  The proteins in rice, corn (maize), and chicken meat have them as well.   Some people with Celiac might tolerate them without a problem, but I need to avoid them.  For those still having symptoms, cutting these out of our diet may improve symptoms. 
    • trents
      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @ainsleydale1700! First, it is very unlikely, given your genetic results, that you have celiac disease. But it is not a slam dunk. Second, there are some other reasons besides having celiac disease that your blood antibody testing was positive. There are some diseases, some medications and even (for some people) some foods (dairy, the protein "casein") that can cause elevated celiac blood antibody test scores. Usually, the other causes don't produce marginally high test scores and not super high ones. Having said that, by far, the most common reason for elevated tTG-IGA celiac antibody test scores (this is the most common test ordered by doctors when checking for celiac disease) is celiac disease itself. Please post back and list all celiac blood antibody tests that were done with their scores and with their reference ranges. Without the reference ranges for negative vs. positive we can't tell much because they vary from lab to lab. Third, and this is an terrible bum steer by your doc, for the biopsy results to be valid, you need to have been eating generous amounts of gluten up to the day of the procedure for several weeks.  Having said all that, it sounds most likely that you have NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity) as opposed to celiac disease. The two share many common symptoms but NCGS is not autoimmune in nature and doesn't damage the lining of the small bowel. What symptoms do you have? Do you have any blood work that is out of norm like iron deficiency that would suggest celiac disease?
    • ainsleydale1700
    • Scott Adams
      HLA testing can definitely be confusing. Classic celiac disease risk is most strongly associated with having the full HLA-DQ2 or HLA-DQ8 heterodimer, which requires specific DQA1 and DQB1 genes working together. Your report shows you are negative for the common DQ2 and DQ8 combinations, but positive for DQB102, which is one component of the DQ2 pair. On its own, DQB102 does not usually form the full DQ2 molecule most strongly linked to celiac disease, which is likely why your doctor said you do not carry the typical “celiac genes.” However, genetics are only part of the picture. A negative gene test makes celiac disease much less likely, but not absolutely impossible in rare cases. More importantly, both antibody testing and biopsy are only reliable when someone is actively eating gluten; being gluten-free for four years before testing can cause both bloodwork and intestinal biopsy to appear falsely negative. Given your positive antibodies and ongoing symptoms, it may be reasonable to seek clarification from a gastroenterologist experienced in celiac disease about whether proper gluten exposure was done before testing and whether additional evaluation is needed.
    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      I agree with your post and have had similar experiences. I'm commenting to add the suggestion of also using nutritional yeast as a supplement. It's a rich source of B vitamins and other nutrients, and some brands are further supplemented with additional B12. I sprinkle a modest amount in a variety of savory recipes.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.