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More Of A Rant About Uninformed People


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This is a comment on my bodybuilding profile:

 

'Wild rice, barley (including beer), beets, MSG, teriaki sauce, soy sauce, and oats all contain gluten.... Also, casein is very close to gluten in molecular structure.... Many who cannot tolerate gluten also cannot tolerate milk protein. Whey is almost always contaminated with some casein. It is true that almost all soy is gmo, About 25% of corn is gmo. Soy is poisonous anyway and no animal or human should eat it.'

 

This was my comment in reply:

Wild rice as far as I am aware is naturally gluten free. Perhaps it is contaminated with gluten in processing such as the oats are. But rice is gluten free. I have never heard beets having gluten in them. Soy sauce has wheat in it, true. Beer - yes due to barley has gluten in it. MSG may cause a problem, but it's not from gluten. Monosodium glutamate is a flavoring made through the fermentation of corn, sugar beets, or sugar cane. It is gluten-free. I will agree that corn is mostly GMO - the corn that says it is not GMO has ~0.09% GMO corn - you cannot find true non-GMO corn these days. Soy can be an issue for some- I wouldn't agree that it is poisonous. But everyone can make their own choices based on their own comfort levels.

 

 

' "wild rice"....the dark almost black long rice isn't even really rice. Wild rice does contain gluten....most people are unaware of this. Regular white and brown rice are gluten free. MSG is made from beets. MSG is has drug like affect on the brain....it doesn't enhance the flavor of food, it tricks your brain into thinking the food tastes good. Now for soy ...it must be processed to a point of having all it's nutrients destroyed and re-inserted to be non-poisonous. You cannot eat unprocessed raw soy, neither can cattle, horses, or pigs. It will bloat them and kill them. In women it creates weight gain and other hormonal imbalance issues, in men it causes man boobs...another hormonal imbalance. I grow many hundreds of acres of the stuff. A campaign in the 70's to increase soy sales, touted it as a 'health food' and ever since, people have been confused about soy. Soy is good for it's oil for livestock and the industrial business. The gmo corn that is grown is at about 10 to 25% of sales....Yes they do mix all the corn at the elevator...they don't use separate silos or bins. Asside from farming, 3 out of 6 in my house must remain gluten free and have been gluten free for 15 yrs.'

 

I didn't open this up for debate or advice on the bodybuilding page, but a few of my friends there have celiac disease, UC, IBS, Chrohn's and we share our stories and learn from each other. This lady though... just put a bunch of bad information on my page and now I have to reply otherwise people may think I agree with her.


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bartfull Rising Star

Tell her if she is posting, she has to show links to REPUTABLE  sites to back her claims. Just like this site, if you make a claim, you have to back it up.

Gemini Experienced

It's annoying when you try and rebutt to postings made by the food ignorant.  You did a good job with your replies but Barty gave you added ammunition to shut this person up....although I am sure they may provide kooky links to unreputable sources, that many people believe.  The "soy is poison" topic is really getting old.  If what she posted were true, I would be a mess.  As you know, a lot of good protein sources for body building come from soy and I use them myself, with no issue.  Some people tolerate soy well, others don't.  Just like gluten......some can eat the stuff until they pop and others, like us, get deathly ill.

 

Unfortunately, you can try and educate people until you are blue in the face but it won't help unless they actually listen and educate themselves.....with the right material.

kareng Grand Master

Its your site, right?  Can you just delete it?  Maybe post that you will not tolerate rudeness and blatantly incorrect information.

moosemalibu Collaborator

I try not to get super scientific and try to be respectful of the alternative medicine types but some information is just plain wrong. What really gets me is that in the same breathe so to speak, she says soy is poisonous yet grows hundreds of acres of crops to sell it. Say what? If you grew 'poison' to sell... what kind of morals do you have? I don't agree that soy is poison.. but I found that rather ironic that she uses that as her testimonial to her claims.

w8in4dave Community Regular

Sounds like she has herself convinced about things and there will be no changing her mind. Some people just put something in their head and you cannot change it! 

 

And cows pigs and horses cannot eat it but yet it is fed to live stalk .... Ummm OK lol 

moosemalibu Collaborator

Sounds like she has herself convinced about things and there will be no changing her mind. Some people just put something in their head and you cannot change it! 

 

And cows pigs and horses cannot eat it but yet it is fed to live stalk .... Ummm OK lol 

 

Right?! she was too much for me.


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w8in4dave Community Regular

Funny when I first started reading a part of this I read wild Rice had Gluten in it I was like WHAT??? Good thing I read the rest of the story lol 

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