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Anyone Suffered Or Suffer From Asthma/shortness Of Breathe?


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Gemini Experienced

I have asthma, severe and persistent, diagnosed by a PFT(lung function test). Have you had one of those done? I have to take Advair everyday 2/day or I will have an attack. Still I've been hospitalized twice in the last year and a half

 

Asthma and SOB are 2 different things. As others have mention you can get SOB from GERD or anxiety or anemia or other things. Maybe you should see a pulmonologist to see if it is indeed asthma. Like I said if it's asthma you will need to be on a controller medicine daily, it doesn't go away

Actually, many people who were diagnosed asthmatics have reported that their breathing problems all went away after some time on the gluten-free diet.  They don't need inhalers or meds at all.

I think there are many whose inflammation from undiagnosed Celiac shows up as breathing problems.  It's all about inflammation.  Get rid of the inflammation and the reaction to it goes away.  You may be surprised down the road to find that your breathing problems improve after following the diet for a few years.  I never believe doctors when they say certain things never go away.  If it's something caused by massive inflammation, you can never say never.  ;)


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GottaSki Mentor

agreed. this is why a PFT is best for diagnosis. they test before the albuterol and then you take 2 puffs of albuteral, wait 15min, and then they test again. Asthma will improve on the PFT after the albuteral but GERD or something else will not. It will also show obstructive patterns in the lungs (asthma), GERD wouldn't show an obstructive pattern. The best diagnostic tool is this test

 

Yep I had this test to rule out Asthma for my worsening lung issues.

answerseeker Enthusiast

Actually, many people who were diagnosed asthmatics have reported that their breathing problems all went away after some time on the gluten-free diet.  They don't need inhalers or meds at all.

I think there are many whose inflammation from undiagnosed Celiac shows up as breathing problems.  It's all about inflammation.  Get rid of the inflammation and the reaction to it goes away.  You may be surprised down the road to find that your breathing problems improve after following the diet for a few years.  I never believe doctors when they say certain things never go away.  If it's something caused by massive inflammation, you can never say never.  ;)

I sure hope so because it's been a thorn in my side! 2 hospitalizations in 1 yr and on prednisone 3 times has taken a toll on my body. I've read that asthma improves on gluten free diet it just hasn't been long enough for me yet

GottaSki Mentor

Actually, many people who were diagnosed asthmatics have reported that their breathing problems all went away after some time on the gluten-free diet.  They don't need inhalers or meds at all.

I think there are many whose inflammation from undiagnosed Celiac shows up as breathing problems.  It's all about inflammation.  Get rid of the inflammation and the reaction to it goes away.  You may be surprised down the road to find that your breathing problems improve after following the diet for a few years.  I never believe doctors when they say certain things never go away.  If it's something caused by massive inflammation, you can never say never.  ;)

 

I am currently reading a book entitle "Asthma as an Inflammatory Disease" simply because I ordered the wrong volume of three regarding Inflammatory Disease...and thought why not.

 

When it comes to Inflammation in the body our doctors are as woefully undereducated as they are about Functional Digestive Disorders....while I'm waiting for them to catch up -- I just keep reading ;)

answerseeker Enthusiast

Yep I had this test to rule out Asthma for my worsening lung issues.

do you have GERD too? I have GERD in addition to everything else which complicates it. Can't wait to start feeling healthy again!

GottaSki Mentor

do you have GERD too? I have GERD in addition to everything else which complicates it. Can't wait to start feeling healthy again!

 

No GERD, but son has had a variation of GERD for about 10 years.

 

Listen to Gemini....it is all about the inflammation in the body....amazing how many things are finally improving for me now that I am improving in that respect.  Sadly it did take quite a while....those of us with inflammation and other AI symptoms often take a bit longer to see improvement.

 

Hang in there :)

 

Oh...btw...I use Advair when my lungs have issue...either from heat, excercise or food intolerance I end up with some very serious breathing issues and anaphylaxis....Advair is not meant to be used as a rescue inhaler....yet it is the one that works in my case...I do not take it daily only as needed...file this under three more doctors stumped as to why it works...ER, Allergy and Primary :blink:

Renegade Contributor

Because you disagreed or had a sarcastic answer for every suggestion you were given.

I fail to see where I used sarcasm, but anyways, I appreciate everyone concern for their tips and enlightenment on this issue.


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answerseeker Enthusiast

Oh...btw...I use Advair when my lungs have issue...either from heat, excercise or food intolerance I end up with some very serious breathing issues and anaphylaxis....Advair is not meant to be used as a rescue inhaler....yet it is the one that works in my case...I do not take it daily only as needed...file this under three more doctors stumped as to why it works...ER, Allergy and Primary :blink:

that is weird! at least you don't have to spend the $30 every month to refill it. I have an asthma app on Thursday so we wil see how well it's doing. I also have several atopic allergies pollen, dust, mold, etc. and they trigger my asthma. Are these shown to improve with eliminating gluten?

IrishHeart Veteran

do you have GERD too? I have GERD in addition to everything else which complicates it. Can't wait to start feeling healthy again!

 

I had GERD, I had shortness of breath, anemia (three types--iron def, B-12, folate) I had adult onset asthma --given an inhaler (my brother has had asthma since birth and mine was not like his) and I had weakness in my legs, etc etc. You name it, I had it. Not kidding.

 

Here's the thing, everyone----All of this can very well resolve OFF GLUTEN.

 

Inflammation causes all of these symptoms.You are inflamed right now,

 

None of you are on the GFdiet very long, so your symptoms are not yet resolved. Those of us who are gluten-free longer--Gemini, Bartful, Karen. GottaSki-, Raven--we're all telling you to be patient...Healing happens in time.

 

PS to Renegade. you mention coughing up stuff.? well, you also mention smoking pot and after you stop--even for a while--you're gonna be coughing up crap and be short of breath.

 

Just try to be patient. Healing takes a LONG TIME. MONTHS.

Going gluten-free is not a magic bullet. It takes time, patience and recovery.

 

Did I mention patience and time? ;)

Renegade Contributor

I had GERD, I had shortness of breath, anemia (three types--iron def, B-12, folate) I had adult onset asthma --given an inhaler (my brother has had asthma since birth and mine was not like his) and I had weakness in my legs, etc etc. You name it, I had it. Not kidding.

 

Here's the thing, everyone----All of this can very well resolve OFF GLUTEN.

 

Inflammation causes all of these symptoms.You are inflamed right now,

 

None of you are on the GFdiet very long, so your symptoms are not yet resolved. Those of us who are gluten-free longer--Gemini, Bartful, Karen. GottaSki-, Raven--we're all telling you to be patient...Healing happens in time.

 

PS to Renegade. you mention coughing up stuff.? well, you also mention smoking pot and after you stop--even for a while--you're gonna be coughing up crap and be short of breath.

 

Just try to be patient. Healing takes a LONG TIME. MONTHS.

Going gluten-free is not a magic bullet. It takes time, patience and recovery.

 

Did I mention patience and time? ;)

Ty that was very helpful :)

IrishHeart Veteran

Ty that was very helpful :)

 hang in there, kid.

 

The gluten-free diet is not a quick fix, I'm afraid. It took me 15 months post-Dx to turn a corner.

 

I am NOT the norm, however. I was very ill at diagnosis.

 

Most people take @ 4- 6 months to see symptom resolution.

 

One day at a time. That's all you can do and that's the honest truth.

1desperateladysaved Proficient

I have had a problem with shortness of breath.  Just recently it has been relieved.  I am about 18 months gluten free and had just quit eating all foods I had intolerances to and begun digestive enzymes and adrenal support herbs!  One day I suddenly noticed I breathed deeply!  This is exciting!

 

All the same to you,

D

ravenwoodglass Mentor

Actually, many people who were diagnosed asthmatics have reported that their breathing problems all went away after some time on the gluten-free diet.  They don't need inhalers or meds at all.

I think there are many whose inflammation from undiagnosed Celiac shows up as breathing problems.  It's all about inflammation.  Get rid of the inflammation and the reaction to it goes away.  You may be surprised down the road to find that your breathing problems improve after following the diet for a few years.  I never believe doctors when they say certain things never go away.  If it's something caused by massive inflammation, you can never say never.  ;)

Yea I am one of them. Haven't needed my Singulair or inhalor now in years.

Gemini Experienced

Yea I am one of them. Haven't needed my Singulair or inhalor now in years.

I wish my sister would listen to me.  She has Sjogren's and asthma...really bad asthma.  I used to smoke and I can outclimb her on a flight of stairs. She needs an inhalor before she gets to the top. She is not overweight either.  However, she works in a hospital and goes with the AMA and does not think outside the box...like they practice.  She thinks going gluten-free is the worst thing that can happen to you  and this from a woman who had a bout with breast cancer.  :blink:

Renegade Contributor

I wish my sister would listen to me.  She has Sjogren's and asthma...really bad asthma.  I used to smoke and I can outclimb her on a flight of stairs. She needs an inhalor before she gets to the top. She is not overweight either.  However, she works in a hospital and goes with the AMA and does not think outside the box...like they practice.  She thinks going gluten-free is the worst thing that can happen to you  and this from a woman who had a bout with breast cancer.  :blink:

Why the hell would she think going gluten-free would be bad?

JediMindTricks Newbie

With the risk of sounding like a broken record :)

 

Everything you describe I suffer from. To me it sounds like anxiety. A panic attack does not have to be a full blown episode where you freak out. Very often when I get an anxiety attack I find it difficult to breathe/shortness of breath and feel weak and clumsy.

 

This is not meant as a personal attack to you Renegade but rather a general observation of cannabis users. It always amazes me when someone complains about anxiety problems when smoking cannabis then there is a 100 posts following from pro-cannabis smokers suggesting it's the strain or the cannabis is cut with flour or something (Cannabis forums are the worst).

 

You have already said that you get panic attacks when you smoke weed; weed affects the chemicals in your brain. Smoking also cuts the amount of oxygen supplied to your brain.

 

We already know that celiac can have neurological effects on the brain and it makes sense that if there is an imbalance caused by malabsorption of nutrients or whatever then taking a drug that affects the brain is going to cause a problem.

 

Whether cannabis or celiac is the problem, I wouldn't brush this off and say it's not anxiety.

 

Hope you find the answer. All the best,

JMT 

IrishHeart Veteran

Why the hell would she think going gluten-free would be bad?

 

The same reason any of our relatives think it---that giving up their bagels, breads, pizzas and donuts is a fate worse than death and more horrible than the constant pain they suffer from their various AI diseases, GERD, "IBS" diabetes....etc.

 

They would rather symptom- treat, eat their gluteny foods, remain obese and out of breath than give them up.

They think a gluten-free diet is like being condemned to a living hell on earth.

They have their collective heads in the sand.

 

We call them "the unenlightened" :D

Renegade Contributor

The same reason any of our relatives think it---that giving up their bagels, breads, pizzas and donuts is a fate worse than death and more horrible than the constant pain they suffer from their various AI diseases, GERD, "IBS" diabetes....etc.

 

They would rather symptom- treat, eat their gluteny foods, remain obese and out of breath than give them up.

They think a gluten-free diet is like being condemned to a living hell on earth.

They have their collective heads in the sand.

 

We call them "the unenlightened" :D

I am not healthy yet but I can feel that my body is healing, everything is getting better yes even my breathe, but it's like a rollerocaster, you know? Of course you know lol.

 

I keep getting dreams about foods and knowing that I'll never be able to go to most restaurents or go eat at a feast and have those very yummy chinesse ramens but I don't really mind , if it means I'll get my old self back and hopefully a new better self that I never though I would have then by all means I'm willing to sacrifice it all.

 

Funny how all my life I tried to be as healthy as possible, exercise and rarely eat bad food and to end up in just 3 months in the worst health of my life.

IrishHeart Veteran

Kiddo,

You can live a "normal" life....it's just the "new norm".

I eat out now. I go to weddings, etc. I even dine at friends' homes--they learned about CC and they cook for me. I watch them

and I help and all's well. Life is good.

 

It's still early in your recovery. Hang in there. Soon, you will see what we are saying.

I promise.

 

It will not feel like you have sacrificed a thing, except crappy health.

Gemini Experienced

Why the hell would she think going gluten-free would be bad?

Adding to what IrishHeart already said so well.......my sister does not like to cook. She makes mashed potatoes from a box.  :o  So....preparing food to the extent that I do, all those fresh veggies and fruits that need cutting up and cleaning and steaming.....it's just too much work for her.  The whole thing about cc boggles her mind.  She was the very first person to give me the dreaded eye roll when I first ordered out at a restaurant with her after diagnosis.  I was explaining to the waitstaff about the clean grill that was needed and she just did it...I could have slapped her silly.  To put it bluntly...she eats a crap diet and doesn't want to change.

 

I should add that my sister has a very high IQ and is exceedingly book smart. But many times, people with high IQ's have a serious lack of common sense!  :lol:

IrishHeart Veteran

 But many times, people with high IQ's have a serious lack of common sense!  :lol:

 

 

ahem! I will add, just to clarify what my dear girl Gemini has said.

 

 

....people with high IQs ...who are  also "gluten headed" and not yet, following a gluten-free diet....lack common sense.

 

"cuz I have lots o'common sense: and my IQ is "purty good"

 

:)

 

and I have met many  "academians"..with big IQs who were about as street smart as a new-born babe. :lol:

flowerqueen Community Regular

Not sure what you mean by the baby crying analogy but as far as weak muscle then yes, even walking is difficult now and I haven't exercise in 2 weeks because I feel too weak, it actually worsen since I went gluten free, Initially it didn't.

I can't think of any other way of describing the shortness of breath, but the weak muscle problem is something I had, and I was walking with a stick, but couldn't walk far. At the moment I have muscle weakness again and this time am wondering weather it's magnesium or vitamin B deficiency. (I have other medical conditions) at the time of diagnosis it was the iron that was the problem - I seem to go from one thing to another, as far as deficiencies go.

In the UK we get our blood tests on NHS but realise it's not the same in other countries. I don't know what else to suggest other than get vitamin and mineral levels checked.

Renegade Contributor

Yep, that's the plan, hopefully i can find the energy to survive and not die until then and show up to work everyday.

flowerqueen Community Regular

There are a minority of people that have celiac disease whom do not get better on gluten free alone and need help from steroids. So take care. In the meantime, do you use a food journal, in case there is anything you may have missed?

Renegade Contributor

There are a minority of people that have celiac disease whom do not get better on gluten free alone and need help from steroids. So take care. In the meantime, do you use a food journal, in case there is anything you may have missed?

 

No, I don't need to, I always eat the same things and I remember everything I eat.

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Do I need to worry about touching doorknobs, fridge handles, light switches, etc. that family members touched after eating gluten? What about public places like bus handles or school desks? Or like if i went to the gym, I would be touching stuff all the time, so there will be small amounts of gluten and those would get transferred on my phone if I touch my phone while in the gym. But I want to knos if it would be enough to do damage. 3. Is an endoscopy (without biopsy) enough to tell if my intestines are healed? I’d pay privately if it could help and if i dont get a refferal. Or do i need a biopsy? 4. Could my job (powder coating, sandblasting, etc.) expose me to gluten or damage my intestines through air/dust? 5. Do I need certified gluten-free toothpaste, hand soap, shampoo, or moisturizer? (For example: Vaseline and Colgate don’t contain gluten ingredients but say they can’t guarantee it’s gluten-free.) 6. Is spices like pepper with “may contain traces of gluten” safe if no gluten ingredients are listed? Or does everything need to be labeled gluten-free?  7. Is continuing to only eat my own food the better choice, or could I eventually go back to eating what my mom cooks if she’s careful? 8. is cutlery from dishwasher safe if there are stains? Stuff like knives is used for cutting gluten bread or fork for noodles etc. I often see stains which i dont know if its gluten or something else but our dish washer doesnt seem to make it completely clean. 9. I wash my hands multiple times while preparing food. Do i need to do the same when touching my phone. Like if i touch the fridge handle, I wash my hands then touch the phone. I dont eat while using my phone but i leave it on my bed and pillow and my face could come in contact with where it was.  10. Do i need to clean my phone or laptop if theyve been used by people who eat gluten? Even if no crumbs fall onto my keybaord, i mean because of invisible gluten on their fingers. 11. Does medication/supplements have to be strictly glutenfree? One company said they couldn‘t guarantee if their probiotics don’t contain traces of gluten.  12. I had bought supplements in the past, some of them say glutenfree and some of them dont(like the brand „NOW“ from iherb). I bought them and used them when i wasnt washing my hands so often, are they still safe? As I touched and opened them after touching door knobs, water taps etc. It was like a year ago when i bought those and even though i was eating gluten-free, I never worried about what i touch etc. I know this post is long. I’m just extremely overwhelmed. I’m trying to protect myself from long-term health damage, but the OCD is destroying my quality of life, and I honestly don’t know what’s a reasonable level of caution anymore. Thanks for reading.
    • lmemsm
      I've been making a lot of black bean brownies lately because it's one of the few gluten free dessert recipes that actually tastes palatable.  I've also seen chocolate cake recipes with black beans.  Someone mentioned a cookie recipe using lentils in place of flour.  Just wondering if anyone's run across any tried and true recipes using beans, lentils or peas for desserts?  I've seen a lot of recipes for garbanzo flour but I'm allergic to garbanzo beans/chickpeas.  Was wondering if adzuki or pinto beans might be useful in replacing some or all of the flour in baking.  Since gluten free flours can be crumbly was hoping the beans might help produce a better, less crumbly consistency.  Any recommendations for recipes?  Thanks.
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