Mental Health Crises: What Else Might Be Wrong?

[1desperateladysaved]

Anyone know of someone having a mental health crises and later it was found that they had a physical illness?  What physical illnesses/defects can mascarade for mental illness?

 

D

[SkyBlue4]

Don't know if this qualifies as a crisis really but my son has PANS/PANDAS (autoimmune reaction to an infection) that causes anxiety/OCD as well as Tourette Syndrome overnight. He literally went to bed one night and woke up a different kid. We rushed him to the ER thinking he must have meningitis or something. It was scary.

[IrishHeart]

D

 

Do you mean besides celiac, righ? because that surely causes what appear to be mental health issues like depression and anxiety as many of us can attest.

 

let's see,  a few could be:

uncontrolled diabetes

endocrine and metabolic disorders

lyme disease

severe Vitamin deficiencies , like omega 3s and essential fatty acids, amino acids

anemia

a stroke, lupus, mono, and Parkinson's disease

Pain relievers, tranquilizers, birth control pills, antihistamines, muscle relaxants, and several other pharmaceuticals can mess with your head.

food additives, chemical sensitivities

heavy metal poisoning

candida albicans

hormonal imbalances

sleep deprivation

a brain injury, blow to the head, etc.

food intolerances, histamine intolerance and allergies

Pseudobulbar affect (PBA)

 

and I might add: a visit from an annoying mother-in-law could trigger total madness in some folks ...Just sayin

[1desperateladysaved]

Wowie,  I am guessing the doctors didn't check for all of that before administering their drugs.  In fact, I know they didn't.  I am not in control (It is not me) but I am going to be asking questions which I hope may help the doctors.  I happen to know the lady involved in the health crises and her one child has celiac genes both 2DQ2 and 2DQ8 genes!  I agree that celiac can make you sort of bonkers!  The one in crises also had a trigger event having not been the same since back surgery 5 or so years back.  She may have been checked for celiac, but may have low IgA and IgG.  She has had kidney problems and thyroid issues in the past.  Sigh.  She doesn't really want my ideas, but maybe my talking to the medical personnel possibly will get somewhere?  I doubt it, but I gotta try.

 

How to win friends and influence doctors without going totally bonkers yourself?  Sometimes I feel like D is trying to take on the whole medical establishment single handedly!  For this lady, I have to try.

 

Thanks for the ideas, it gives me more ideas of what questions I should ask.  I need all the amo that I can get.

[kareng]

  On 9/27/2013 at 3:11 AM, 1desperateladysaved said:

Wowie, I am guessing the doctors didn't check for all of that before administering their drugs. In fact, I know they didn't. I am not in control (It is not me) but I am going to be asking questions which I hope may help the doctors. I happen to know the lady involved in the health crises and her one child has celiac genes both 2DQ2 and 2DQ8 genes! I agree that celiac can make you sort of bonkers! The one in crises also had a trigger event having not been the same since back surgery 5 or so years back. She may have been checked for celiac, but may have low IgA and IgG. She has had kidney problems and thyroid issues in the past. Sigh. She doesn't really want my ideas, but maybe my talking to the medical personnel possibly will get somewhere? I doubt it, but I gotta try.

How to win friends and influence doctors without going totally bonkers yourself? Sometimes I feel like D is trying to take on the whole medical establishment single handedly! For this lady, I have to try.

Thanks for the ideas, it gives me more ideas of what questions I should ask. I need all the amo that I can get.

Just a couple of thoughts. She isn't low on IgG, but can be low on IgA. her doctors can't discuss her case with you without her permission. You might be able to make some suggestions to her or her family?

[1desperateladysaved]

  On 9/27/2013 at 3:23 AM, kareng said:

Just a couple of thoughts. She isn't low on IgG, but can be low on IgA. her doctors can't discuss her case with you without her permission. You might be able to make some suggestions to her or her family?

Thanks, the nurse I talked to got clearance for me.  I just basically asked questions about what care she was getting.  I am hoping for some influence in the situation in a gentle way!

 

I did read about one person who claimed low igG, so that is what made me think of it.  My IgG level is not high, so I have been wondering.

[IrishHeart]

  On 9/27/2013 at 3:11 AM, 1desperateladysaved said:

  I happen to know the lady involved in the health crises and her one child has celiac genes both 2DQ2 and 2DQ8 genes!  I agree that celiac can make you sort of bonkers!  The one in crises also had a trigger event having not been the same since back surgery 5 or so years back.  She may have been checked for celiac, but may have low IgA and IgG.  She has had kidney problems and thyroid issues in the past.  Sigh.  She doesn't really want my ideas, but maybe my talking to the medical personnel possibly will get somewhere?

 

 

 

but "celiac genes" do not determine celiac. You know this by now.

She may have selective deficiency of IgA, but they test for that when they do the celiac panel .

Sometimes, someone becomes stressed and the body has low seratonin levels. That would also cause mental health issues.

If she does not really respond to SSRIs, which are often prescribed for depression, then perhaps it is another medical condition that is the underlying cause.

 

Good luck with talking to medical personnel. I suspect they will nod and say "uh huh" and walk away.

[1desperateladysaved]

  On 9/27/2013 at 12:23 PM, IrishHeart said:

but "celiac genes" do not determine celiac. You know this by now.

She may have selective deficiency of IgA, but they test for that when they do the celiac panel .

Sometimes, someone becomes stressed and the body has low seratonin levels. That would also cause mental health issues.

If she does not really respond to SSRIs, which are often prescribed for depression, then perhaps it is another medical condition that is the underlying cause.

 

Good luck with talking to medical personnel. I suspect they will nod and say "uh huh" and walk away.

Yeah, alas that is all true. 

[IrishHeart]

  On 9/27/2013 at 12:32 PM, 1desperateladysaved said:

Yeah, alas that is all true. 

Believe me, Diana...I understand how frustrating it is to watch someone you care about go downhill and not even take any suggestions

from you about what could help. .

 

All you can do is be supportive, offer ways to help if she goes gluten-free (despite negative celiac panels) and be a friend.

 

As we often say on here, you can lead the horse to water.... 

[kareng]

  On 9/27/2013 at 12:02 PM, 1desperateladysaved said:

Thanks, the nurse I talked to got clearance for me.  I just basically asked questions about what care she was getting.  I am hoping for some influence in the situation in a gentle way!

 

 

 

You said this lady didn't want your help.  This nurse should be fired for talking to you about a patient's care, especially mental health issues!  As a person who worked on and with Health Information Laws for many years, I'm upset about this.  However, when your friend is better, she will be able to sue the hospital or doctor and this nurse for a lot of money.

 

 

Its possible her issues have nothing to do with Celiac - in fact, because only about 1 % of the population have Celiac, its really likely there is a different reason.

[frieze]

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while this link isn't specific to this issue, if you research the doc involved you will find much of interest.

and Irish, the OP did mention a potential inciting event....and that the person involved hadn't "been right" since.

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interesting, according to this a lack of niacin may actually contribute to developing

 

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might this explain the occasional person who seems to tolerate gluten after long term healing?

[1desperateladysaved]

  On 9/27/2013 at 12:41 PM, IrishHeart said:

Believe me, Diana...I understand how frustrating it is to watch someone you care about go downhill and not even take any suggestions

from you about what could help. .

 

All you can do is be supportive, offer ways to help if she goes gluten-free (despite negative celiac panels) and be a friend.

 

As we often say on here, you can lead the horse to water.... 

Yes, again.  Been there and done that and expect to do it again.

D

[Loey]

  On 9/27/2013 at 3:11 AM, 1desperateladysaved said:

Wowie,  I am guessing the doctors didn't check for all of that before administering their drugs.  In fact, I know they didn't.  I am not in control (It is not me) but I am going to be asking questions which I hope may help the doctors.  I happen to know the lady involved in the health crises and her one child has celiac genes both 2DQ2 and 2DQ8 genes!  I agree that celiac can make you sort of bonkers!  The one in crises also had a trigger event having not been the same since back surgery 5 or so years back.  She may have been checked for celiac, but may have low IgA and IgG.  She has had kidney problems and thyroid issues in the past.  Sigh.  She doesn't really want my ideas, but maybe my talking to the medical personnel possibly will get somewhere?  I doubt it, but I gotta try.

 

How to win friends and influence doctors without going totally bonkers yourself?  Sometimes I feel like D is trying to take on the whole medical establishment single handedly!  For this lady, I have to try.

 

Thanks for the ideas, it gives me more ideas of what questions I should ask.  I need all the amo that I can get.

She's lucky to have you in her corner! Sometimes meds (for depression or any med) can cause depression. So can being sick for a long time. Keeping you in my thoughts & prayers!

Healing (((hugs))),

Loey

[1desperateladysaved]

  On 10/5/2013 at 9:44 PM, Loey said:

She's lucky to have you in her corner! Sometimes meds (for depression or any med) can cause depression. So can being sick for a long time. Keeping you in my thoughts & prayers!

Healing (((hugs))),

Loey

Thanks, that means a lot.

D