Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Schizophrenia And Milk


Blu-1

Recommended Posts

Blu-1 Rookie

I am celiac with MS-like neurological symptoms in response to gluten and rheumatoid arthritic symptoms in response to milk. My mother is gluten intolerant, but not tested for celiac, and had lymphoma (associated with gluten) earlier in her life. My brother has severe anxiety, OCD, and recently schizophrenia. He also had polyps and intestinal bleeding as a teenager.

 

Based on my diagnosis, my mother's gluten intolerance, and current research on the connection between gluten and milk and schzophrenia, my brother has been on a gluten and milk free diet. We had noticed general improvements in my brother's engagement with people and life, weight, and happiness since he had been on the diet. We weren't sure if the diet might be linked to his mental health until recently.  We have found that milk appears to trigger psychosis. 

 

I found a number of research articles on the connection between schizophrenia and gluten and milk if anyone is interested. One article, for example is, Gastrointestinal inflammation and associated immune activation in schizophrenia. Some researchers now suspect a connection between an autoimmune response to food and schizophrenia. An interesting finding in this article is that levels of gut inflammation were less with patients taking antipsychotics and we do know that antipsychotics, although not a miracle cure, can reduce psychotic symptoms in a horrible round-a-bout way. Some people, by far the minority, now suspect that antipsychotics might be helping symptoms by reducing gut inflammation and possibly the immune response to foods, not dopamine receptors in the brain as traditional theory hypothesizes. 

 

Has anyone else found milk causes symptoms of paranoia and/or voices? 

 

  • 1 month later...

Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



chlorophyle Newbie

I have a diagnosis of bipolar disorder. I no longer eat gluten and a few other things which seem to harm my gut in a similar way to gluten. On previous occasions after eating something I reacted to ( thereby harming my gut barrier) I have experienced delusions and paranoia on consuming milk. It has taken me years of diet changes to find the answer for me but now my psychiatrist says my bipolar disorder is "in remission" and I require little medication.

  • 2 weeks later...
Steph1 Apprentice

I have been dx with bipolar 2.  After removing gluten the roller coaster is much better.  Additionally I did used to have issues with seeing shadow people, hearing things and paranoia.  That has been gone for about a year.  I took out milk and gluten at practically the same time, so I really don't know which it was, if any, though I suspect it was one of them.

  • 2 weeks later...
Seifer Rookie

yes I get scizofrenic and paranoid symptoms when on gluten and/or caseine

  • 1 month later...
Blu Newbie

I just noticed these responses to my post. I am thrilled that you have all responded. Thank you. 

 

I wish our family had known years ago about about the dire consequences of milk for our brother for paranoia and for me for rheumatoid arthritic like symptoms. My brother got the worst end of the stick in my opinion. I have science articles on the connection between gluten/milk and schizophrenia and OCD if anyone who sees this post is interested. I hope that our posts here will help other people who are suffering from paranoia from undiagnosed gluten/milk intolerance.

  • 2 months later...
got2bebreadfree Newbie

I am so happy to see a thread on this. I myself have struggled with hearing voices, severe depression and anxiety, that I just KNEW were triggered by milk and gluten. Not only would I have these mental symptoms, but i would have phyical symptoms as well. I know i need to go dairy/gluten free but its just really hard. But I know i have to do it, im tired of living a life of chaos.

  • 4 weeks later...
poneelovesyou Newbie

I think alot of the link between gluten and dairy is that they both seem to induce glutamate excitotoxicity which is linked with alot of mental illness including depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder and shizophrenia. Heres a cool video/site that talks about avoiding foods with excess free glutamates and the link she found to these foods and her kids autism. As you probably know there's a link between gluten and autism as well.

Open Original Shared Link


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



  • 2 weeks later...
vincehh Newbie

I am celiac with MS-like neurological symptoms in response to gluten and rheumatoid arthritic symptoms in response to milk. My mother is gluten intolerant, but not tested for celiac, and had lymphoma (associated with gluten) earlier in her life. My brother has severe anxiety, OCD, and recently schizophrenia. He also had polyps and intestinal bleeding as a teenager.

 

Based on my diagnosis, my mother's gluten intolerance, and current research on the connection between gluten and milk and schzophrenia, my brother has been on a gluten and milk free diet. We had noticed general improvements in my brother's engagement with people and life, weight, and happiness since he had been on the diet. We weren't sure if the diet might be linked to his mental health until recently.  We have found that milk appears to trigger psychosis. 

 

I found a number of research articles on the connection between schizophrenia and gluten and milk if anyone is interested. One article, for example is, Gastrointestinal inflammation and associated immune activation in schizophrenia. Some researchers now suspect a connection between an autoimmune response to food and schizophrenia. An interesting finding in this article is that levels of gut inflammation were less with patients taking antipsychotics and we do know that antipsychotics, although not a miracle cure, can reduce psychotic symptoms in a horrible round-a-bout way. Some people, by far the minority, now suspect that antipsychotics might be helping symptoms by reducing gut inflammation and possibly the immune response to foods, not dopamine receptors in the brain as traditional theory hypothesizes. 

 

Has anyone else found milk causes symptoms of paranoia and/or voices? 

Something else to look at is the type of fats in the diet. Most cooking oils contain far too much omega-6 and these produce chemicals in the body called eicosanoids that cause ill health. The lack of saturated fat especial short and medium chain could be causing probles. By the way these has been no substantial trials that correctly shown saturated fats causing heart disease but seed oils have(corn, sunflower, safflower etc)

 

The brain is mostly made of saturated fat, The insulation of the nerve fibres are saturated fat. The raw materials for the hormones the brain makes are made of saturated and omega 3 fats. Low cholesterol has been linked to behavioural problems such as aggression and ADHD.

 

The Swedish Gov has just officially rejected the idea that saturated fat causes heart disease or any other health problems.

 

These things are worth researching.

Vince

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,546
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    KimberlyAnne76
    Newest Member
    KimberlyAnne76
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Beverage
      I had a very rough month after diagnosis. No exaggeration, lost so much inflammatory weight, I looked like a bag of bones, underneath i had been literally starving to death. I did start feeling noticeably better after a month of very strict control of my kitchen and home. What are you eating for breakfast and lunch? I ignored my doc and ate oats, yes they were gluten free, but some brands are at the higher end of gluten free. Lots of celics can eat Bob's Red Mill gluten-free oats, but not me. I can now eat them, but they have to be grown and processed according to the "purity protocol" methods. I mail order them, Montana Gluten-Free brand. A food and symptoms and activities log can be helpful in tracking down issues. You might be totally aware, but I have to mention about the risk of airborne gluten. As the doc that diagnosed me warned . . Remember eyes, ears, nose, and mouth all lead to your stomach and intestines.  Are you getting any cross contamination? Airborne gluten? Any pets eating gluten (they eat it, lick themselves, you pet them...)? Any house remodeling? We live in an older home, always fixing something. I've gotten glutened from the dust from cutting into plaster walls, possibly also plywood (glues). The suggestions by many here on vitamin supplements also really helped me. I had some lingering allergies and asthma, which are now 99% gone. I was taking Albuterol inhaler every hour just to breathe, but thiamine in form of benfotiamine kicked that down to 1-2 times a day within a few days of starting it. Also, since cutting out inflammatory seed oils (canola, sunflower, grapeseed, etc) and cooking with real olive oil, avocado oil, ghee, and coconut oil, I have noticed even greater improvement overall and haven't used the inhaler in months! It takes time to weed out everything in your life that contains gluten, and it takes awhile to heal and rebuild your health. At first it's mentally exhausting, overwhelming, even obsessive, but it gets better and second nature.
    • Jsingh
      Hi,  I care for my seven year old daughter with Celiac. After watching her for months, I have figured out that she has problem with two kinds of fats- animal fat and cooking oils. It basically makes her intestine sore enough that she feels spasms when she is upset. It only happens on days when she has eaten more fat than her usual every day diet. (Her usual diet has chia seeds, flaxseeds, and avocado/ pumpkin seeds for fat and an occasional chicken breast.) I stopped using cooking oils last year, and when I reintroduced eggs and dairy, both of which I had held off for a few months thinking it was an issue of the protein like some Celiac patients habe mentioned to be the case, she has reacted in the same fashion as she does with excess fats. So now I wonder if her reaction to dairy and eggs is not really because of protein but fat.   I don't really have a question, just wondering if anyone finds this familiar and if it gets better with time.  Thank you. 
    • Chanda Richard
      Hello, My name is Chanda and you are not the only one that gose through the same things. I have found that what's easiest for me is finding a few meals each week that last. I have such severe reactions to gluten that it shuts my entire body down. I struggle everyday with i can't eat enough it feels like, when I eat more I lose more weight. Make sure that you look at medication, vitamins and shampoo and conditioner also. They have different things that are less expensive at Walmart. 
    • petitojou
      Thank you so much! I saw some tips around the forum to make a food diary and now that I know that the community also struggles with corn, egg and soy, the puzzle pieces came together! Just yesterday I tried eating eggs and yes, he’s guilty and charged. Those there are my 3 combo nausea troublemakers. I’m going to adjust my diet ☺️ Also thank you for the information about MCAS! I’m from South America and little it’s talked about it in here. It’s honestly such a game changer now for treatment and recovery. I know I’m free from SIBO and Candida since I’ve been tested for it, but I’m still going to make a endoscopy to test for H. Pylori and Eosinophilic esophagitis (EoE). Thank you again!! Have a blessed weekend 🤍
    • knitty kitty
      Yes, I, too, have osteoporosis from years of malabsorption, too.  Thiamine and magnesium are what keep the calcium in place in the bones.  If one is low in magnesium, boron, selenium, zinc, copper, and other trace minerals, ones bone heath can suffer.  We need more than just calcium and Vitamin D for strong bones.  Riboflavin B 2, Folate B 9 and Pyridoxine B 6 also contribute to bone formation and strength.   Have you had your thyroid checked?  The thyroid is important to bone health as well.  The thyroid uses lots of thiamine, so a poorly functioning thyroid will affect bone heath.  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.