Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Cooking With Flour


sbojo32

Recommended Posts

sbojo32 Rookie

I've seen this answered before, but my family doesn't believe me. I have Celiac (diagnosed 2.5 weeks ago) and so I've been eating gluten-free since then. The rest of my family isn't going gluten-free, but they ask if they can make regular pancakes in the house. I know I shouldn't cook with regular flour or "airborne gluten" but what can they do?

 

I suggested they go outside to measure the pancake mix and get it in a bowl with wet ingredients so it wouldn't be airborne in the house and they thought I was being crazy (no one ended up with pancakes).

 

Also, is the griddle ok if it's been cleaned with soap and water after making gluten pancakes to make gluten-free pancakes?

 

This relates to any food with flour, but pancakes just came up so I wanted to ask. Thanks.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



LauraTX Rising Star

Pick up some gluten-free Bisquik and make that pancake recipe.  I have fed that to gluten eaters and they didn't mind at all.  As for the airborne flour issue, I think your suggestion of mixing it outside is the best practice to avoid any airborne gluten eventually settling all over the countertops and exposed clean cookware.  If the griddle is a perfectly smooth surface with no nooks, crannies, or greasy film for the gluten to stick to, then you are probably okay just washing it well.  However, I would be more comfortable with a separate pan, especially if dealing with a well-seasoned cast iron type griddle.  A non-stick one that needs no seasoning would be easier to clean.

 

However, the best way to deal with something like that is just have everyone eat gluten-free pancakes.  People have this thing in their mind that gluten-free food equals gross, but many people are surprised that after long refusing gluten-free food, that when they try it, it isn't bad.  It is just a human nature thing to not want to try something new.  Most people drown their pancakes in syrup anyways, they may not even tell a difference.  And yes, this does relate to any food with flour.  They can purchase pre-made gluten baked goods, when making it in the house would involve a mix and/or flour.  If you would like to demonstrate to them how flour can go airborne, get a bag of gluten-free bisquik or whatever gluten-free flour you have, set it on the stove with the top cut off, and smack both sides to poof some out, and after a few minutes, have them run their hands over the adjacent counters.  They will probably be shocked and never again object to your suggestion of mixing the pancakes outside.

 

They also sell pre-made pancakes in the freezer section they can eat.  But I am pretty sure freshly made gluten-free pancakes would taste better than processed junk from the freezer.  Just have them give it a try.  It takes a while for other household members to "get it" so it is good that they would up not making pancakes at all this time.  They sound like they will be able to understand with some more time and info :)

Judy3 Contributor

Regular wheat flour is banned in my house although it's just my son and I. I have Celiac he doesn't (yet)  The reason is that when you are mixing pancakes, cake, anything really, the dust from the flour can stay in the air as long as 4 hours which inhaled flour is just as bad for a person with Celiac as eating it.  So we buy my son regular bread from the bakery and he has to not double did the knife in butter, peanut butter etc.. I make gluten free baked goods and he likes then as much or better than the regular kind.  Even my friends that are not gluten free ask me to bring cupcakes or cookies to get togethers   :)   So once you've been in this a while it will get easier.  In the meantime, if they want pancakes you can buy a mix that is in a bottle that they just add water or milk to and then it would be contained in the bottle so it may not get as much in the air.   Just a thought.   It is nice that my son is able to do gluten free with me except for his bread and an occasional pack of cookies.  It makes life a lot easier.   He likes brown rice pasta so we're good there.    My older son and family will be here to visit for a week tomorrow and they have the same rules when it comes to cross contamination.  They are vegetarian and I don't sprinkle meat juice on their food   :)     Good luck 

 

Just found this:  The problem is that when you breath it in through your mouth and nose, those particles of flour can become trapped in your saliva and mucus and then be swallowed.  At that point it enters your digestive system.  The Gluten Intolerance Group says that flour can hang in the air up to 24 hours. That’s a long time. 

Jays911 Contributor

I am blessed my wife went gluten-free with me. I did not ask her. But she says she feels much better. Read "Wheatbelly" to understand why. It is simply a healthier diet.

kareng Grand Master

My husband actually goes on the back deck to pour out the pancake mix. I always had to come back a while later and re- wipe the counters from the dust. He uses the old pancake griddle we always used for the gluten pancakes. If you think your griddle can be cleaned well, it should be fine for gluten and gluten-free things.

CathyO Rookie

Pamelas baking mix is another good one for gluten-free pancakes. I'm very strict about my kitchen. I've replaced everything that could be contaminated from past use.

The only gluten containing food allowed to be cooked are microwave items.

Keeps me healthy and my kitchen not contaminated.

LauraTX Rising Star

Pamelas is my other favorite pancake mix!   For some reason the recipe on the bag seems to be way too much milk for thick, fluffy pancakes.  Hold back like a third of it if you like your pancakes thicker.  I really like the taste of those the best.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



bartfull Rising Star

If they don't want to mix it outside, suggest they go to a restaurant for their pancakes, and tell them that at home they can have french toast or eggs. If they DO agree to mix it outside, have them ix up a really HUGE batch. You can cook a ton of pancakes and freeze the leftovers. Leftover pancakes heated on a cookie sheet in the oven are even better than fresh ones. The edges get crispy and the center is just as fluffy as the first time.

LauraTX Rising Star

That is also a good idea what Bartfull said.  I tell my husband he can have his gluten outside of the house, lol.  And he does, when we go out.

julissa Explorer

my husband can have all the gluten out of the house that he would like. I have a strict gluten free home, and can't imagine the anxiety I would feel if anyone made gluteny food here. i have to be able to be safe at home.  my kids are grown and out of the house, so it's just the 2 of us most days. 

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    2. - Jane02 replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

    4. 0

      Penobscot Bay, Maine: Nurturing Gluten-Free Wellness Retreat with expert celiac dietitian, Melinda Dennis

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Jane02's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      9

      Desperately need a vitamin D supplement. I've reacted to most brands I've tried.

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,331
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Kristy2026
    Newest Member
    Kristy2026
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      @Jane02, I hear you about the kale and collard greens.  I don't do dairy and must eat green leafies, too, to get sufficient calcium.  I must be very careful because some calcium supplements are made from ground up crustacean shells.  When I was deficient in Vitamin D, I took high doses of Vitamin D to correct the deficiency quickly.  This is safe and nontoxic.  Vitamin D level should be above 70 nmol/L.  Lifeguards and indigenous Pacific Islanders typically have levels between 80-100 nmol/L.   Levels lower than this are based on amount needed to prevent disease like rickets and osteomalacia. We need more thiamine when we're physically ill, emotionally and mentally stressed, and if we exercise like an athlete or laborer.  We need more thiamine if we eat a diet high in simple carbohydrates.  For every 500 kcal of carbohydrates, we need 500-1000 mg more of thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine the carbs get stored as fat.  Again, recommended levels set for thiamine are based on minimum amounts needed to prevent disease.  This is often not adequate for optimum health, nor sufficient for people with absorption problems such as Celiac disease.  Gluten free processed foods are not enriched with vitamins like their gluten containing counterparts.  Adding a B Complex and additional thiamine improves health for Celiacs.  Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.  Thiamine helps the mitochondria in cells to function.  Thiamine interacts with each of the other B vitamins.  They are all water soluble and easily excreted if not needed. Interesting Reading: Clinical trial: B vitamins improve health in patients with coeliac disease living on a gluten-free diet https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19154566/ Safety and effectiveness of vitamin D mega-dose: A systematic review https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34857184/ High dose dietary vitamin D allocates surplus calories to muscle and growth instead of fat via modulation of myostatin and leptin signaling https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38766160/ Safety of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation: Secondary Analysis of a Randomized Controlled Trial https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31746327/ Vitamins and Celiac Disease: Beyond Vitamin D https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11857425/ Investigating the therapeutic potential of tryptophan and vitamin A in modulating immune responses in celiac disease: an experimental study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40178602/ Investigating the Impact of Vitamin A and Amino Acids on Immune Responses in Celiac Disease Patients https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10814138/
    • Jane02
      Thank you so much @knitty kitty for this insightful information! I would have never considered fractionated coconut oil to be a potential source of GI upset. I will consider all the info you shared. Very interesting about the Thiamine deficiency.  I've tracked daily averages of my intake in a nutrition software. The only nutrient I can't consistently meet from my diet is vitamin D. Calcium is a hit and miss as I rely on vegetables, dark leafy greens as a major source, for my calcium intake. I'm able to meet it when I either eat or juice a bundle of kale or collard greens daily haha. My thiamine intake is roughly 120% of my needs, although I do recognize that I may not be absorbing all of these nutrients consistently with intermittent unintentional exposures to gluten.  My vitamin A intake is roughly 900% (~6400 mcg/d) of my needs as I eat a lot of sweet potato, although since it's plant-derived vitamin A (beta-carotene) apparently it's not likely to cause toxicity.  Thanks again! 
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jane02,  I take Naturewise D 3.  It contains olive oil.   Some Vitamin D supplements, like D Drops, are made with fractionated coconut oil which can cause digestive upsets.  Fractionated coconut oil is not the same as coconut oil used for cooking.  Fractionated coconut oil has been treated for longer shelf life, so it won't go bad in the jar, and thus may be irritating to the digestive system. I avoid supplements made with soy because many people with Celiac Disease also react to soy.  Mixed tocopherols, an ingredient in Thornes Vitamin D, may be sourced from soy oil.  Kirkland's has soy on its ingredient list. I avoid things that might contain or be exposed to crustaceans, like Metagenics says on its label.  I have a crustacean/shellfish/fish allergy.  I like Life Extension Bioactive Complete B Complex.  I take additional Thiamine B 1 in the form Benfotiamine which helps the intestines heal, Life Extension MegaBenfotiamine. Thiamine is needed to activate Vitamin D.   Low thiamine can make one feel like they are getting glutened after a meal containing lots of simple carbohydrates like white rice, or processed gluten free foods like cookies and pasta.   It's rare to have a single vitamin deficiency.  The water soluble B Complex vitamins should be supplemented together with additional Thiamine in the form Benfotiamine and Thiamine TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) to correct subclinical deficiencies that don't show up on blood tests.  These are subclinical deficiencies within organs and tissues.  Blood is a transportation system.  The body will deplete tissues and organs in order to keep a supply of thiamine in the bloodstream going to the brain and heart.   If you're low in Vitamin D, you may well be low in other fat soluble vitamins like Vitamin A and Vitamin K. Have you seen a dietician?
    • Scott Adams
      I do not know this, but since they are labelled gluten-free, and are not really a product that could easily be contaminated when making them (there would be not flour in the air of such a facility, for example), I don't really see contamination as something to be concerned about for this type of product. 
    • trents
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.