Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

glad you're here


CherylS

Recommended Posts

CherylS Apprentice

Hello,

I'm a pretty tough lady, I'm a nurse so I ignore a lot of symptoms and keep going about my day.  I have been having nausea and a weird feeling in my mouth every time I eat for at least 6 months.  I noticed my lips feeling almost numb after eating too.  Sometimes my inner ears itch after I eat, I never put this all together.  I have a hiatal hernia, I blamed my symptoms on that, it usually causes heartburn, I just figured it was my body being weird.

A couple months ago I was turned away from donating blood because my hemoglobin was too low, it was 9.4 and the blood bank nurse suggested I go to my doctor because that was really low and I looked pale.  I'd been having heart palpitations as well, so I decided to go see my doctor.  I went and after blood work I was diagnosed with iron deficiency anemia.  I started eating more iron rich foods, taking a supplement, etc.  I'd been tired too, I  blamed the anemia.

I was really sick at work the other day after eating breakfast, my coworker said, I bet you are lactose or gluten intolerant.  I did nothing with this until today, I figured it was just her grasping at straws.

I looked up celiac disease and saw some of the common symptoms and conditions that could be related and my jaw dropped.  At the top of the list was autoimmune hepatitis, I was diagnosed with that 15 years ago.  I have so many of the symptoms, I thought my numb tingling hands were from typing on my phone, I thought the joint pain was my autoimmune hepatitis flaring up.  I thought the gross bowel movements and flatulence were from the fruits, vegetables, whole grains I've switched to.

I'm going to call my doctor tomorrow to be seen so we can start the process of being tested.

I can't imagine the joy at feeling normal again.  I'm actually gaining weight, always hungry, but too tired to exercise.  I also eat sometimes in the hope of sopping up the nausea, thinking there is acid in my stomach.

Even if my tests come back negative, I'm going to try to go gluten free to see if it helps.

Sorry for the rambling, I'm just excited at the potential for answers. 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



cyclinglady Grand Master

Glad that you found us!  Here is the complete celiac blood panel.  

 
-Tissue Transglutaminase (tTG) IgA and (tTG) IgG
-Deamidated Gliadin Peptide (DGP) IgA and (DGP) IgG
-EMA IgA 
-total serum IgA and IgG (control test)
-AGA IGA and AGA IgG - older and less reliable tests largely replace by the DGP tests
 
-endoscopic biopsy - make sure at least 6 samples are taken
 
Keep consuming gluten until all testing is complete.
 
(Source: NVSMOM -- ?)
 

I would insist on the full panel since you already have another autoimmune disorder.  Why?  I guess I would like everyone to get the complete panel to insure that no one is missed!  Besides, I tested weird and I am glad that my GI ordered th complete panel.  My main symptom was Anemia and I have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis.  

Welcome me to the forum!  

 

 

squirmingitch Veteran

And stand over the doctors shoulder & make sure he/she orders the complete panel!!! SO many don't. And believe it or not, the majority of docs DO NOT know what the full panel is OR what the symptoms of celiac disease are. They think it's just GI symptoms & you have to be ultra skinny. You are a nurse & you didn't know - docs don't either. Good for your coworker recognizing you might be suffering from celiac. Give her a gold star!

 

And since this can never be emphasized enough.......

DO NOT STOP EATING GLUTEN UNTILL ALL TESTING IS COMPLETE & THAT INCLUDES AN ENDOSCOPY.

And even if the doc tells you you can stop eating gluten before testing is complete --- don't listen.

CherylS Apprentice

Thank you,

Squirm, I didn't eat gluten today just because I wanted to see if there was a difference.  It feels so good not to walk around nauseous with my mouth watering all day, I will eat gluten with dinner tonight.

cyclinglady Grand Master

Glad you saw results so soon, but most of us take weeks, months to a few years to resolve all symptoms.  Keep eating gluten as you really want to get a definitive answer to your health issues.  You don't have to go crazy.  A slice of bread or two  (or equivalent per day) is recommended by the University of Chicago.   They have a great celiac website and are one of the leading research groups in the US. 

nvsmom Community Regular

:) Agreed. Keep eating gluten until those tests are done.  And let us know how the tests go.  Good luck!

squirmingitch Veteran

Some people find it helpful to eat the gluten before bed so that the worst effects occur overnight & they might not be so bad off at work the next day. It works for some & not for others. Worth a try though.

When you get your results then come back here & read the Newbie 101 in the Coping section so you can learn how to keep yourself safe. There is a steep learning curve to the diet & it's scary at first & there is a mourning period but once you get the rules down it will become second nature.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



CherylS Apprentice

I was just coming back to say that I think I have ulcers or something, because my nausea is still there, but my mouth feels better.  I'm eating bread at dinner every day until my appointment, but trying to cut the gluten containing products out of my other meals.  I wonder if I have a wheat allergy, because I get the itchy inner ears and lips and mouth symptoms when I eat breads or pasta.  I'm going to get the testing done no matter what, but I'm starting to lean away from celiac disease. 

My appointment is October 21, I'm going to try not to think about anything too much until then.  

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Jordan Carlson's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      1

      Fruits & Veggies

    3. - knitty kitty replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

    4. - trents replied to pothosqueen's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      16

      Positive biopsy

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,017
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Kayy
    Newest Member
    Kayy
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      In the study linked above, the little girl switched to a gluten free diet and gained enough weight that that fat pad was replenished and surgery was not needed.   Here's the full article link... Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6476019/
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @Jordan Carlson, So glad you're feeling better.   Tecta is a proton pump inhibitor.  PPI's also interfere with the production of the intrinsic factor needed to absorb Vitamin B12.  Increasing the amount of B12 you supplement has helped overcome the lack of intrinsic factor needed to absorb B12. Proton pump inhibitors also reduce the production of digestive juices (stomach acids).  This results in foods not being digested thoroughly.  If foods are not digested sufficiently, the vitamins and other nutrients aren't released from the food, and the body cannot absorb them.  This sets up a vicious cycle. Acid reflux and Gerd are actually symptoms of producing too little stomach acid.  Insufficient stomach acid production is seen with Thiamine and Niacin deficiencies.  PPI's like Tecta also block the transporters that pull Thiamine into cells, preventing absorption of thiamine.  Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are difficulty swallowing, gagging, problems with food texture, dysphagia. Other symptoms of Thiamine deficiency are symptoms of ADHD and anxiety.  Vyvanse also blocks thiamine transporters contributing further to Thiamine deficiency.  Pristiq has been shown to work better if thiamine is supplemented at the same time because thiamine is needed to make serotonin.  Doctors don't recognize anxiety and depression and adult onset ADHD as early symptoms of Thiamine deficiency. Stomach acid is needed to digest Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) in fruits and vegetables.  Ascorbic acid left undigested can cause intestinal upsets, anxiety, and heart palpitations.   Yes, a child can be born with nutritional deficiencies if the parents were deficient.  Parents who are thiamine deficient have offspring with fewer thiamine transporters on cell surfaces, making thiamine deficiency easier to develop in the children.  A person can struggle along for years with subclinical vitamin deficiencies.  Been here, done this.  Please consider supplementing with Thiamine in the form TTFD (tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) which helps immensely with dysphagia and neurological symptoms like anxiety, depression, and ADHD symptoms.  Benfotiamine helps with improving intestinal health.  A B Complex and NeuroMag (a magnesium supplement), and Vitamin D are needed also.
    • knitty kitty
      @pothosqueen, Welcome to the tribe! You'll want to get checked for nutritional deficiencies and start on supplementation of B vitamins, especially Thiamine Vitamin B 1.   There's some scientific evidence that the fat pad that buffers the aorta which disappears in SMA is caused by deficiency in Thiamine.   In Thiamine deficiency, the body burns its stored fat as a source of fuel.  That fat pad between the aorta and digestive system gets used as fuel, too. Ask for an Erythrocyte Transketolace Activity test to look for thiamine deficiency.  Correction of thiamine deficiency can help restore that fat pad.   Best wishes for your recovery!   Interesting Reading: Superior Mesenteric Artery Syndrome in a 6-Year-Old Girl with Final Diagnosis of Celiac Disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089433/#:~:text=Affiliations,tissue and results in SMAS.  
    • trents
      Wow! You're pretty young to have a diagnosis of SMA syndrome. But youth also has its advantages when it comes to healing, without a doubt. You might be surprised to find out how your health improves and how much better you feel once you eliminate gluten from your diet. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder that, when gluten is consumed, triggers an attack on the villous lining of the small bowel. This is the section of the intestines where all our nutrition is absorbed. It is made up of billions of tiny finger-like projections that create a tremendous surface area for absorbing nutrients. For the person with celiac disease, unchecked gluten consumption generates inflammation that wears down these fingers and, over time, greatly reduces the nutrient absorbing efficiency of the small bowel lining. This can generate a whole host of other nutrient deficiency related medical problems. We also now know that the autoimmune reaction to gluten is not necessarily limited to the lining of the small bowel such that celiac disease can damage other body systems and organs such as the liver and the joints and cause neurological problems.  It can take around two years for the villous lining to completely heal but most people start feeling better well before then. It's also important to realize that celiac disease can cause intolerance to some other foods whose protein structures are similar to gluten. Chief among them are dairy and oats but also eggs, corn and soy. Just keep that in mind.
    • pothosqueen
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.