Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

At a Loss


mnburis

Recommended Posts

mnburis Apprentice

My blood test shows no evidence of Celiac ( I don't have the actual numbers. I'll get that Monday). But today I get a call from my Dr that my stool study is back and it still shows inflammation ( the one last year did too but the GI said it didn't mean anything). 

 

So my insides are inflamed but no one can figure out why. 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Feeneyja Collaborator

Non Celiac Gluten/Wheat Sensitivity also causes cell damage and immune response. It's just not autoimmune (as far as we know).  This is research from 2016, so very recent and not all docs are up on it.  But it can still be gluten (or other parts of wheat) even if you are not celiac positive.   And I don't have a stat for it, but there are certainly people who react to gluten, test negative, but over time eventually test positive.  The celiac test only rules out celiac NOW, not in the future.

Open Original Shared Link

There are also other things that can cause inflammation:  SIBO (small intestine bacterial overgrowth), IBS, IBD, parasites, candida, other food intolerances.  Have these been ruled out?

Have you attempted a gluten free diet and challenge and know it's wheat/gluten related?  

mnburis Apprentice

I have not done gluten-free yet because I want all the testing done first. 

 

Everything ive read says IBS will not show inflammation in the stool. Parasites and candida have been ruled out. SIBO has not been tested for. 

 

I do have a first blood blood cousin with Crohn's disease. 

TexasJen Collaborator

Do you know what stool test you had specifically that showed "inflammation"? 

mnburis Apprentice
58 minutes ago, TexasJen said:

Do you know what stool test you had specifically that showed "inflammation"? 

I believe it was Calprotectin ( I'm sure I'm spelling that all wrong) and Lactoferrin. Same exact stool test results I had a year ago and everyone ignored and acted like I was crazy 

cyclinglady Grand Master

The first test, Calrotectin, is useful for diagnosing Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD).     Since your colonoscopy was fine (if I recall), I suppose Ulcerative colitis (one form of IBD) has been ruled out, but that leaves Crohn's.  

I could have sworn my niece had celiac disease.  Finally, her 4th GI ordered a pill camera.  Found the Crohn's damage at the very end of her small intestine, beyond the reach of either scope.  She did not display any of the traditional Crohn's symptoms either except for periodic abdominal pain.  

Just something to consider.  

mnburis Apprentice
40 minutes ago, cyclinglady said:

The first test, Calrotectin, is useful for diagnosing Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD).     Since your colonoscopy was fine (if I recall), I suppose Ulcerative colitis (one form of IBD) has been ruled out, but that leaves Crohn's.  

I could have sworn my niece had celiac disease.  Finally, her 4th GI ordered a pill camera.  Found the Crohn's damage at the very end of her small intestine, beyond the reach of either scope.  She did not display any of the traditional Crohn's symptoms either except for periodic abdominal pain.  

Just something to consider.  

The only thing he found on the colonoscopy was a polyp and he mentioned that my colon looked "streaky" whatever that means. I have photos lol. I guess I need to look up more about Crohn's.  To be honest no one has bothered ruling anything out except for my primary care dr when she ordered the celiac test 2 weeks ago. I was basically told that it was nothing and to learn to live with it.  I'm sorry but stabbing pains and fiery diarrhea isnt normal. Neither is the low vitamin levels or the neurological symptoms I have. I just need someone to believe in me and be willing to go the extra mile. 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Victoria1234 Experienced
5 hours ago, mnburis said:

The only thing he found on the colonoscopy was a polyp and he mentioned that my colon looked "streaky" whatever that means. I have photos lol. I guess I need to look up more about Crohn's.  To be honest no one has bothered ruling anything out except for my primary care dr when she ordered the celiac test 2 weeks ago. I was basically told that it was nothing and to learn to live with it.  I'm sorry but stabbing pains and fiery diarrhea isnt normal. Neither is the low vitamin levels or the neurological symptoms I have. I just need someone to believe in me and be willing to go the extra mile. 

Sounds like it's find a new doctor time.... where are you in Nc? There's lots of great hospitals and doctors associated with them here.

mnburis Apprentice
4 hours ago, Victoria1234 said:

Sounds like it's find a new doctor time.... where are you in Nc? There's lots of great hospitals and doctors associated with them here.

I have an appointment next week with a new GI at Baptist Hospital

Victoria1234 Experienced
6 minutes ago, mnburis said:

I have an appointment next week with a new GI at Baptist Hospital

Sounds great!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Rogol72 replied to HAUS's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      8

      Sainsbury's Free From White Sliced Bread - Now Egg Free - Completely Ruined It

    2. - Scott Adams replied to HAUS's topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      8

      Sainsbury's Free From White Sliced Bread - Now Egg Free - Completely Ruined It

    3. - Scott Adams replied to deanna1ynne's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      13

      Inconclusive results

    4. - deanna1ynne replied to deanna1ynne's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      13

      Inconclusive results


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,441
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Linda Boxdorfer
    Newest Member
    Linda Boxdorfer
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Who's Online (See full list)

  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Rogol72
      @HAUS, I was at an event in the UK a few years back. I remember ringing the restaurant ahead to inquire about the gluten free options. All I wanted was a few gluten free sandwiches, which they provided and they were delicious. The gluten-free bread they used was Warbutons white bread and I remember mentioning it on this site before. No harm in trying it once. It's fortified with Calcium and Iron. https://www.warburtonsglutenfree.com/warbs_products/white-loaf/ The only other gluten-free bread that I've come across that is fortified is Schar with Iodized salt, nothing else.
    • Scott Adams
      In the U.S., most regular wheat breads are required to be enriched with certain B-vitamins and iron, but gluten-free breads are not required to be. Since many gluten-free products are not enriched, we usually encourage people with celiac disease to consider a multivitamin.  In the early 1900s, refined white flour replaced whole grains, and people began developing serious vitamin-deficiency diseases: Beriberi → caused by a lack of thiamin (vitamin B1) Pellagra → caused by a lack of niacin (vitamin B3) Anemia → linked to low iron and lack of folate By the 1930s–40s, these problems were common in the U.S., especially in poorer regions. Public-health officials responded by requiring wheat flour and the breads made from it to be “enriched” with thiamin, riboflavin, niacin, and iron. Folic acid was added later (1998) to prevent neural-tube birth defects. Why gluten-free bread isn’t required to be enriched? The U.S. enrichment standards were written specifically for wheat flour. Gluten-free breads use rice, tapioca, corn, sorghum, etc.—so they fall outside that rule—but they probably should be for the same reason wheat products are.
    • Scott Adams
      Keep in mind that there are drawbacks to a formal diagnosis, for example more expensive life and private health insurance, as well as possibly needing to disclose it on job applications. Normally I am in favor of the formal diagnosis process, but if you've already figured out that you can't tolerate gluten and will likely stay gluten-free anyway, I wanted to at least mention the possible negative sides of having a formal diagnosis. While I understand wanting a formal diagnosis, it sounds like she will likely remain gluten-free either way, even if she should test negative for celiac disease (Approximately 10x more people have non-celiac gluten sensitivity than have celiac disease, but there isn’t yet a test for NCGS. If her symptoms go away on a gluten-free diet, it would likely signal NCGS).        
    • JoJo0611
    • deanna1ynne
      Thank you all so much for your advice and thoughts. We ended up having another scope and more bloodwork last week. All serological markers continue to increase, and the doc who did the scope said there villous atrophy visible on the scope — but we just got the biopsy pathology report back, and all it says is, “Duodenal mucosa with patchy increased intraepithelial lymphocytes, preserved villous architecture, and patchy foveolar metaplasia,” which we are told is still inconclusive…  We will have her go gluten free again anyway, but how soon would you all test again, if at all? How valuable is an official dx in a situation like this?
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.