Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Risk of Not Having EGD Endoscopy


VLH

Recommended Posts

VLH Newbie

Since diet is the treatment, what if any risk is there to bypass the Endoscope? If symptoms are gone with diet, there would be no reason to scope. If symptoms persist after diet, then I can understand possible benefit of endoscopy. Thank you for insights.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



cyclinglady Grand Master

Take a look at my response to your comment in another thread.  

If you can commit to the diet and your doctor will give you an official diagnosis, then it can be done.  My own husband  went gluten-free 12 years before me (poor advice from two medical doctors).  The diet worked.  He will tell you that I have received way more support from family, friends and medical staff.  This is probably not going to happen, but if I went to jail, under the ADA act, I must be accommodated (I hope).

Of course, you could go gluten free, feel great, get sick again and then have an endoscopy.  The problem is that on a gluten-free diet, you will heal.  The doctor might find something like SIBO or IBD but note that your villi sure intact.   So, if you do decide on an endoscopy, be sure to get back on a gluten diet (which has its own set of problems).  

If your doctor is willing, consider trying to get that diagnosis in your chart.  

Your best defense is to research so that you and your doctor can make the best decision for you.  

GFinDC Veteran

You probably won't get an official celiac diagnosis without the endoscopy.  But, yes, the treatment is the same regardless, a gluten-free diet.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

If you had clearly positive blood work then talk to your doctor. Some doctors will give an official diagnosis based on symptom relief and decrease in antibodies.

Jenny8413 Rookie

Having skipped the endoscope, going gluten-free for a year or so, still having problems and getting worse, and then doing the gluten-challenge endoscope, I highly recommend having the endoscope for diagnosis.  Without it, you will lose your baseline, how your villi looked before the gluten-free diet.  If you do great on diet, then celebrate.  But if you have problems going forward, a year from now they can do another scope and you will have the previous scope results to compare it to...valuable in knowing if you are healing or if you have continued gluten exposure from cross contamination or hidden gluten, or if you have refractory celiac.  If you miss the opportunity to know how much damage has been done to your villi while eating gluten, you'll never know unless you do the 6-week gluten challenge, which I can say was truly a challenge when you have symptoms.  Celiac disease symptoms cross over to similar symptoms from other conditions like Sucrose malabsorption or Giardia, etc.  If your insurance covers the endoscope, nail down the diagnosis so you don't waiver in questioning it.  I feel it is important to get a baseline endoscope before going gluten-free.  I regret that I missed the chance to document my starting point before going gluten-free.  (4 years since diagnosis, I'm still uncovering related issues such as the Surcrose malaborption which is also due to Celiac damage), and knowing the extent of damage to my villi helps me understand why I cannot produce Lactase or Sucrase.  

Beverage Proficient

I got an official written diagnosis WITHOUT the endoscopy.  It's getting more accepted by celiac knowledgeable physicians (mine was an MD that is also a naturopath) if you meet these 3 points:

1.  positive antibodies in blood test

2. positive DNA test

3. response to the gluten free diet

 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - elisejunker44 posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      0

      Schar's products contain wheat!

    2. - knitty kitty replied to HectorConvector's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      322

      Terrible Neurological Symptoms

    3. - Known1 replied to Known1's topic in Introduce Yourself / Share Stuff
      20

      Diagnosed Marsh stage 3C in January 2026

    4. - knitty kitty replied to Known1's topic in Introduce Yourself / Share Stuff
      20

      Diagnosed Marsh stage 3C in January 2026

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,597
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Caroline Alexandria
    Newest Member
    Caroline Alexandria
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • elisejunker44
      I have enjoyed Schar's gluten free products for years. However, some items Do contain Wheat and are not clearly labeled on the front. Indeed the package states 'gluten free' on the front, and it is not until you read the ingredient label that one see's wheat as the first ingredient. Some celiacs may be willing to take a chance on this 'gluten free wheat', but not me. I strongly feel that the labeling for these wheat containing products should be clearly labeled on the front, with prehaps a different color and not using the 'no gluten symbol on the front. The products are not inexpensive, and also dangerous for my health!
    • knitty kitty
      Thiamine Mononitrate is "shelf stable" and won't break down easily when exposed to heat, light and over time.  This makes it very hard for the body to absorb and utilize it.  Only thirty percent is absorbed, less is utilized because it takes additional thiamine to break it down.   Thiamine Hydrochloride is great.  Benfotiamine is wonderful, too.   Retaining water, edema, is a symptom of low thiamine.  I'd bloat up like a puffer fish.   The ingrown toenail problems I had that I attribute to Niacin deficiency and Vitamin C deficiency.  My toenails curled in and grew thick and yellow, thickened heels.  It was awful.   So glad you're going to give thiamine hydrochloride a try!   Let me know how it goes.  You may feel worse before you feel better, the thiamine paradox, but it does clear up.  It's like a car back firing if it hasn't been run for a while.   Thiamine and benfotiamine: Focus on their therapeutic potential https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10682628/
    • Known1
      Thanks again, I'll keep pressing on.  🤞
    • knitty kitty
      @Known1, Search for "niacin flush fades the longer you use it" and "Niacin flush worse if deficient".   It takes a couple to three weeks for the body to adjust and you're at that point now, so things should improve. Riboflavin makes the neon color, which glows under black light.  If not absorbed, excreted.  Absorption of riboflavin will improve as the body starts healing the intestinal lining and villi grow back.   You could skip the multivitamin instead.  
    • HectorConvector
      The conversion factor for mg/dl and mmol/L is 18. So 5 = 90, 7 = 126, and so on. In the US, blood sugar regulations now are the same as what we use in the UK except for this difference in units. In terms of how they compare in the past, the numbers today that I quoted are stricter than they used to be. Blood sugar numbers for +1 and +2 hour postprandial are measured from the beginning of a meal in these official numbers. In regards to the thiamin supplement I have: it says it is thiamine mononitrate. I had not until now been aware there were different types (it seems I find that is the case with everything, including the magnesium I take!) and this one I have is the only one available in my local stores. I know it makes my pee smell strong when I take it which would seem to indicate my body is absorbing enough that the remainder gets ejected, but I could be wrong. Of course, I'm willing to try anything reasonable to correct this long standing condition, whatever it might be so I will try and get thiamin hydrochloride. Back on the note of diabetes (potentially) I haven't had the blood test for a while and I did notice ingrown toenail type infections a few times in the last 3 years that kept coming back. I heard that diabetes caused high urination. But eating sugar and elevated blood sugar causes the opposite in me. If I eat a lot of sugar I retain water, like big time. If I ate a bunch o sugar in the afternoon say, I can produce little enough urine that I can go over 12 hours and have nowhere near enough urine to need to void in that time or longer which seems abnormal.       
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.