Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Did I Do My Antibody Test Wrong?


misha

Recommended Posts

misha Newbie

Hi everyone. My sister has celiac disease. I suspected I had it too so I went on a gluten free diet for about a year. Then I decided to have the antibody blood tests, so for about three weeks I ate a couple of pieces of spelt and rye bread a day, then I had the tests. They came back negative for celiac disease.

Thinking I didn't have the disease, I've been eating lots of bread of all kinds since then, but feeling worse and worse -- having anemia, as my new blood tests show, other blood test abnormalities (high ESR), and very fatigued. I just stopped eating gluten last week and now I feel a thousand times better.

Do you think it's possible that I didn't eat enough gluten to build up my antibodies when I took my test? I feel really dumb about it now. Or would that have been enough gluten to make antibodies show? I'd really appreciate any advice. I feel embarrassed to talk to my doctor about it, because he already acted like I was a total pain when I asked for the tests.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



SueC Explorer

You may not have been eating gluten long enough for damage to show on bloodwork. After being gluten-free it is recomended to go back to eating gluten for 3 months before being tested. You might want to try again in a couple of months! :(

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Definately not long enough for accurrate test results. If you feel bad eating gluten and then feel good off of it I'd say you already have your answer but if you need testing to be convinced...then I'd say at least 3 months eating plenty of gluten everyday.

misha Newbie

Thanks to both of you for your reply! I noticed that you had grave's disease, Rachel -- I've had hyperthyroidism too.

Definately not long enough for accurrate test results. If you feel bad eating gluten and then feel good off of it I'd say you already have your answer but if you need testing to be convinced...then I'd say at least 3 months eating plenty of gluten everyday.
  • 2 weeks later...
munchkinette Collaborator

I was wondering about this too- I tried the gluten-free diet for two weeks, and my doctor said I need to eat wheat for one week before getting my antibody tests. (next week)

Will one week be enough since I only ate gluten-free for a short time?

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Are you getting bad symptoms when you eat gluten? If it were me and I *wasnt* in too much discomfort...I'd eat it for alot longer than one week to get the most accurate test results. I was off gluten for 2 weeks before testing and the tests were negative. Once I was gluten-free for awhile I was never able to go back on it to retest because my symptoms were too severe.

Nancym Enthusiast

Dr. Fine says the intestines can heal up pretty well even as soon as two days of going gluten free and it can take years to get them messed up again to the point of detecting the disease through blood tests or biopsy. And you really do have to be pretty sick to get a positive on the biopsy. I really think the current standard lab tests are very bad at detecting gluten sensitivity unless you're at the extreme end of illness.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



munchkinette Collaborator
Are you getting bad symptoms when you eat gluten? If it were me and I *wasnt* in too much discomfort...I'd eat it for alot longer than one week to get the most accurate test results. I was off gluten for 2 weeks before testing and the tests were negative. Once I was gluten-free for awhile I was never able to go back on it to retest because my symptoms were too severe.

I've been eating gluten again for 2 days and I do feel kinda gross. I jumped in because I had the same question and just like micha I have been anemic and really tired. I also had a really tiring weekend with lots of exercise (snowboarding) and drinking, so I can't pick out what is from gluten.

I'm still too new to this to understand what it's all about. My two weeks without gluten was an experiment because of my recent anemia tests. I don't actually know which symptoms are from gluten but I really think the tiredness is related since I noticed a big difference after eating gluten-free for about 4 days. It's not that I need really official test results. I'm just too new to this to determine based on how I feel, so I'd like to get an accurate test.

lemonade Enthusiast
Definately not long enough for accurrate test results. If you feel bad eating gluten and then feel good off of it I'd say you already have your answer but if you need testing to be convinced...then I'd say at least 3 months eating plenty of gluten everyday.

Rachel,

how much would you say is "plenty"?

I have never really liked bread, so before going gluten-free, i didnt eat much breads, my only grain came from oats, which are said to be lower in gluten, if not gluten free, depending on cross contamination, but im thinking that oats still cotnained enouhg gluten to send me over the edge and create the symptoms i have. Is it possible that I hadnt been eating enough gluten for the test results to be accurate?

Lemonade

Are you getting bad symptoms when you eat gluten? If it were me and I *wasnt* in too much discomfort...I'd eat it for alot longer than one week to get the most accurate test results. I was off gluten for 2 weeks before testing and the tests were negative. Once I was gluten-free for awhile I was never able to go back on it to retest because my symptoms were too severe.

Rachel...

How were you diagnosed with celiac disease?

Lemonade

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - knitty kitty replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      12

      My only proof

    2. - NanceK replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      12

      My only proof

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      39

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

    4. - trents replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      39

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?

    5. - Scott Adams replied to Larzipan's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      39

      Has anyone had terrible TMJ/ Jaw Pain from undiagnosed Celiac?


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,367
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Pauline14
    Newest Member
    Pauline14
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      You're right, doctors usually only test Vitamin D and B12.  Both are really important, but they're not good indicators of deficiencies in the other B vitamins.  Our bodies are able to store Vitamin B12 and Vitamin D in the liver for up to a year or longer.  The other B vitamins can only be stored for much shorter periods of time.  Pyridoxine B 6 can be stored for several months, but the others only a month or two at the longest.  Thiamine stores can be depleted in as little as three days.  There's no correlation between B12 levels and the other B vitamins' levels.  Blood tests can't measure the amount of vitamins stored inside cells where they are used.  There's disagreement as to what optimal vitamin levels are.  The Recommended Daily Allowance is based on the minimum daily amount needed to prevent disease set back in the forties when people ate a totally different diet and gruesome experiments were done on people.  Folate  requirements had to be updated in the nineties after spina bifida increased and synthetic folic acid was mandated to be added to grain products.  Vitamin D requirements have been updated only in the past few years.   Doctors aren't required to take as many hours of nutritional education as in the past.  They're educated in learning institutions funded by pharmaceutical corporations.  Natural substances like vitamins can't be patented, so there's more money to be made prescribing pharmaceuticals than vitamins.   Also, look into the Autoimmune Protocol Diet, developed by Dr. Sarah Ballantyne, a Celiac herself.  Her book The Paleo Approach has been most helpful to me.  You're very welcome.  I'm glad I can help you around some stumbling blocks while on this journey.    Keep me posted on your progress!  Best wishes! P.S.  interesting reading: Thiamine, gastrointestinal beriberi and acetylcholine signaling https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12014454/
    • NanceK
      So interesting that you stated you had sub clinical vitamin deficiencies. When I was first diagnosed with celiac disease (silent), the vitamin levels my doctor did test for were mostly within normal range (lower end) with the exception of vitamin D. I believe he tested D, B12, magnesium, and iron.  I wondered how it was possible that I had celiac disease without being deficient in everything!  I’m wondering now if I have subclinical vitamin deficiencies as well, because even though I remain gluten free, I struggle with insomnia, low energy, body aches, etc.  It’s truly frustrating when you stay true to the gluten-free diet, yet feel fatigued most days. I’ll definitely try the B-complex, and the Benfotiamine again, and will keep you posted. Thanks once again!
    • knitty kitty
      Segments of the protein Casein are the same as segments of the protein strands of gluten, the 33-mer segment.   The cow's body builds that Casein protein.  It doesn't come from wheat.   Casein can trigger the same reaction as being exposed to gluten in some people.   This is not a dairy allergy (IGE mediated response).  It is not lactose intolerance.  
    • trents
      Wheatwacked, what exactly did you intend when you stated that wheat is incorporated into the milk of cows fed wheat? Obviously, the gluten would be broken down by digestion and is too large a molecule anyway to cross the intestinal membrane and get into the bloodstream of the cow. What is it from the wheat that you are saying becomes incorporated into the milk protein?
    • Scott Adams
      Wheat in cow feed would not equal gluten in the milk, @Wheatwacked, please back up extraordinary claims like this with some scientific backing, as I've never heard that cow's milk could contain gluten due to what the cow eats.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.