Candida Releated Complex

[Guest LisaB]

Doesn't it make you wonder how someone could be smart enough to get thru med school? Of course, some people are good at one thing...cheating.

[whitelacegal]

hey, i just think that doctors are not very open minded about things, they only think one way and that is it, I have yet to find a doc who believes in the yeast problem that some people can have every day, it seems like this is ruining my life and im getting real depressed, the only light at the end of the tunnel is a homeopath doc who treats yeast that im gonna go see at the end of June, i just feel like im playing a losing battle with this!

[Guest cd&dhspruehead]

I did some diging on the internet and found a web site called www.candidapage.com .there it talked about celiac ,dh, and something called candida witch is yeast senitivity.it talks about things like feeling weak after being expsed to mold or on damp days.This is a good read.check it out.

[whitelacegal]

thanks for posting that celiac disease i will take a look at it.

[ockham]

LisaB et al,

Sorry I'm coming late to this topic. Is anybody still interested?

My modest contribution is simply to suggest using Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) to control candidiasis. It's fairly cheap (I'm using the Proseed brand) and seems to be very effective, maybe even moreso when used with Coconut Oil.

I've been on it for about a week and am now feeling the effects, exactly as predicted, of dying candida. The course of treatment is roughly one month.

As I understand it the candida infestation is a consequence of the Gluten Intolerance and the gluten-free diet will probably keep any leftover candida under control once the GSE has done its work.

Please let me know if I'm wrong about any of this.

Try it.

[stef-the-kicking-cuty]

Some Symptoms:

anxiety

constipation

hiatal hernia

depression

burning in eyes

rashes

dry or sore throat

inability to cope

adrenal failure

dizziness/vertigo

intestinal pain/colitis

hyper-irritability

asthma

feeling drained

puffy eyes

energy loss

thyroid failure

hyperactivity

inability to absorb food

insomnia

chemical sensitivity

muscle weakness

panic attacks

loss of concentration

bloating

food cravings

dry mouth

fatigue

food sensitivity

hives odors cold

belching heartburn

migraine headaches

bladder infections

mouth infections / thrush

spots in front of eyes

mental confusion

hay fever

Hi Lisa,

i just now read your post. I guess, i'm too late. Well, but the symptoms sound very familiar. So i thought i might try this virgin coconut oil in the smoothies. I don't like coconut, but i hope you can't taste it anymore in the smoothies.

But my other question is, what enzymes should you take with the coconut oil? Or did i misunderstand that.

And ockham said, he uses Grapefruit Seed Extract? Where can i get that? And do i have to take that together with the coconut oil, or is it working alone, too?

And ockham, you said: 'I've been on it for about a week and am now feeling the effects, exactly as predicted, of dying candida.' What are the effects of dying candida?

I'm looking forward to your replies,

stef

[judy05]

Hi,

I just wanted to know if those of you who are gluten intolerant (not

a definite diagnosis of celiac) and also have candida and get

cured from the candida, do your symptoms of gluten intolerance go away?

I have many,many of these symptoms which of course could be explained

by the gluten but maybe aren't. The only positive I had was an elevated

IGA which came down on a gluten-free diet but my symptoms have never completely

gone away. Is this too much wishful thinking on my part? I would appreciate

any commments. I have a dr's appointment Mon. and I plan on discussing

this with him, also I would like him to order the York tests to find out

what other foods are bothering me. I now seem to be developing an

intolerance to eggs as well as soy and dairy and was recently dx with

Diabetes, having been on the gluten-free diet for one year. When does it end?.

[kabowman]

I found this on the Enterolab Web site yesterday:

What about yeast sensitivity?

Although we know less about yeast sensitivity than gluten sensitivity (because the former has been identified and studied for a shorter period of time), we now know that it too can be associated with an immune reaction that damages the intestine and perhaps other tissues in the body. Yeast sensitivity is the only reaction identified to be present in people with a devastating intestinal inflammatory disease called Crohn's disease. Through research, we at Enterolab have identified coexisting yeast sensitivity in at least three-quarters of those we find to be gluten sensitive. This is not surprising since many gluten containing foods also contain yeast (such as brewer's and baker's yeast). We also find that some people get more symptom relief from a gluten-free diet when it is also yeast-free.

I am also going to talk to my PCP when I see her again in Feb to discuss the possiblity of candida but I am doing fine eliminating most of the yeast (as in any added for cooking) and I don't seem to have problems with other foods except now maybe mushrooms. However, I don't know if that is related to my molds allergies, the possible yeast issue, or just a fluke.

-Kate

[ockham]

Hi Stef,

If you kill off the Candida at too fast a rate you get a reaction to the toxic waste which is called the Herxheimer Reaction (you might try a Google search). Basically it just means that the Candida symptoms get suddenly worse for a few days before getting better.

The usual advice is simply to cut down on the medication for a while and then increase it again. I.E. You kill off the Candida more slowly.

To avoid this the Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) advice is to take a low dose for one week then a higher dose for two weeks and maybe an even higher dose for a final week if the infection was particularly bad.

Being rather sceptical about GSE (it sounded like snake-oil to me) I started with the middle dose of two tablets per day and after about five days was suddenly hit with the bad reaction (Herxheimer?). I've now reduced it to one per day for a few days and will go back to the two tablets next week. At least I'm now convinced that the stuff is actually working.

The one I bought (at my local healthfood store) has no instructions on the bottle. I found the dosage advice somewhere online. Please do a search yourself and don't trust my failing memory.

I understand also that GSE is often sold as a liquid and you have to count the number of drops that you add to your OJ rather than count the number of tablets. My healthfood store only had the tablets.

I hope this helps.

Ockham.

[ockham]

P.S.

I tried the coconut oil some weeks ago and found that the two tablespoons of oil was more than I could stomach. But coconut milk (not coconut water) contains the same beneficial fatty acids and tastes a lot better than oil so I've been taking that instead . . . . . about 10 oz each morning.

In fact I've been cheating a bit and using the powdered form of the coconut milk. It's just spray-dried milk and, I presume, just as good as the canned stuff. But buy the stuff from Thailand, not from Malaysia. (Tastes much better.) A packet each morning with my cereal is about the right dose.

I really don't know if it's doing any good but it does make a nice breakfast.

Ockham

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