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Will COVID-19 cause spike on Celiac Disease?

trents

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trents Grand Master
trents
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In the past year, there have been many posts on the forum asking if people with celiac disease are at a greater risk than the general population. The consensus from experts in the medical community is that celiacs are not a greater risk for contracting COVID-19.

But let's turn that question on end. Will those who have contracted COVID-19 be at greater risk for celiac disease?

We all know that celiac disease remains latent in those with the genetic predisposition until it is "turned on" by some stress event, such as a viral infection.

This question came to my mind as I was listening to a medical researcher talk about the long term lingering effects experienced by some who have contracted COVID-19 and survived it. One of the persistent symptoms he listed was brain fog, which we all know is common among celiacs.

It should be interesting to see if there is an uptick in celiac disease diagnosis following the pandemic.

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Scott Adams Grand Master
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 This is a really good question, and we recently did an article on a doctor who believes that there will indeed be post-pandemic a spike in CD and diabetes cases:

 

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On 6/16/2021 at 3:29 PM, trents said:

In the past year, there have been many posts on the forum asking if people with celiac disease are at a greater risk than the general population. The consensus from experts in the medical community is that celiacs are not a greater risk for contracting COVID-19.

But let's turn that question on end. Will those who have contracted COVID-19 be at greater risk for celiac disease?

We all know that celiac disease remains latent in those with the genetic predisposition until it is "turned on" by some stress event, such as a viral infection.

This question came to my mind as I was listening to a medical researcher talk about the long term lingering effects experienced by some who have contracted COVID-19 and survived it. One of the persistent symptoms he listed was brain fog, which we all know is common among celiacs.

It should be interesting to see if there is an uptick in celiac disease diagnosis following the pandemic.

Trents,

Celiac disease has been linked to other Viruses in the past....most notably the Epstein Barr Virus aka EBV.

Here is the research on it...

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-04-epstein-barr-virus-linked-diseases.html

See this Sciencemag article that explains how Reovirus's can be the trigger fora  Celiac disease diagnosis.

Entitled "Reovirus infection triggers inflammatory responses to dietary antigens and development of celiac disease"

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/356/6333/44 /tab-e-letters

It was really ground breaking research but I didn't hear many "News Outlets" talk about it....

Because it is not well understood that a Genetic disease can be triggered by our environment....

Which would make Celiac disease an Epigenetic disease....instead....and that "Breaks the Model"....

And they don't know how to incorporate this new data.....so they ignore it (instead)...

This researcher explains it well by saying quoting...

"In the original classification scheme, celiac disease would have been considered a toxic deficiency(3) similar to Wernicke’s encephalopathy in which excessive ingestion of ethanol induces thiamine deficiency. Now some celiac disease can be considered a three-way cooperation among an infection, a toxin and a deficiency. Other three- and four-way cooperations have been identified(3).
Members of the four classes of known, etiologic agent..."

And is exactly what I argued (supported by good research)...

But apparently the Medical Community is not yet read to update their model to include Vitamin and/or Mineral Deficiencies into their "Genetic Model" of Celiac disease just yet....

The problem is people can't wait another 20 years.....and taking Vitamins and/or Minerals IE Nutrition like Tryptophan can help Celiac's today!

Until the medical profession admits they were wrong....which I am guessing will happen right after "Never" happens.

Almost 7 years ago to the year Tryptophan was shown to be important in the Parthenogenesis of IBS.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4266036/

Low Tryptophan levels has also been studied in Chrons and UC.

And recently was recently found to help Celiac's heal quicker....and isn't that what we all want? To heal quicker, right???

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201022/Tryptophan-found-in-turkeys-can-accelerate-intestinal-healing-in-people-with-celiac-disease.aspx

That is our environment turning on our Genes...aka Epigenetics...

And exactly what new research shows about for COVID-19...

Entitled "Be well: A potential role for vitamin B in COVID-19"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7428453/

B-Vitamin and Magnesium deficiencies describe/explain Celiac disease better than Genetics do in IMO...

And is exactly what the Sciencemag article concluded too....I didn't make this up (myself)....I am just reporting the news....you might say...but my years of research confirms agree with it...IMHO but I know now it will take another 20+ years probably before the Medical community accepts it! Lord knows I have tried to educate others of these facts.....the problem is they are not accepted as medical facts  yet??? and probably never will be.....because then they would have to admit first their  "Genetic Model" is broken?

Which was recently admitted by Genetic researchers...

https://www.genengnews.com/news/dna-has-relatively-little-say-in-disease-risk-usually/

quoting from the article for others who might come across this thread and don't have time (who does these days (not me))  to read the whole article...

quoting

“It is becoming increasingly clear,” explained Wishart, “that the risks for getting most diseases arise from your metabolism, your environment, your lifestyle, or your exposure to various kinds of nutrients, chemicals, bacteria, or viruses.”

Notice that Wishart referred to most diseases. According to Wishart and colleagues, these include many cancers, diabetes, and Alzheimer’s. In fact, for such diseases, the genetic contribution to disease risk is just 5–10%. There are diseases, however, for which the genetic contribution is about 40–50%. These diseases include Crohn’s disease, celiac disease, and macular degeneration."

I must stop for now....but even good genetic researchers admit these days that Genes play no more than 50% risk for Celiac disease leaving 50% for a Vitamin/Mineral deficiency or other environmental trigger such as a Virus etc. aka Epigenetics!!!

And finally see these research on how a  Magnesium deficiency can be the trigger for an EBV infection leading in time to Celiac disease

So I won't be tempted to type (or over explain it) way too much anyway...

Trents and Scott see/read this article (an important one for me at least) that helped me understand how the Epstein Barr Virus aka EBV could trigger Celiac disease

https://www.prohealth.com/library/the-epstein-barr-virus-magnesium-and-me-cfs-connection-36890

Read it all for yourself and then decide for your self?

Low Magnesium is the trigger for the EBV infection....according to the above research...

Could it also be the trigger for Celiac disease?

It will take 20 years for the medical community to admit it IF it is and Celiacs CANT wait that long IMHO!!! and why I wrote a Posterboy blog post trying to explain it today!

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice.

Posterboy,

trents Grand Master
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Posterboy, you said: "Which would make Celiac disease an Epigenetic disease....instead....and that "Breaks the Model"...."

Instead of what? An autoimmune disease?

Posterboy Mentor
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On 6/19/2021 at 11:33 PM, trents said:

Posterboy, you said: "Which would make Celiac disease an Epigenetic disease....instead....and that "Breaks the Model"...."

Instead of what? An autoimmune disease?

Trents,

As to opposed to a "Purely Genetic" Model....as I stated a little further down.

https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/epigenetics.htm

Quoting from the CDC.

"Since your environment and behaviors, such as diet and exercise, can result in epigenetic changes, it is easy to see the connection between your genes and your behaviors and environment."

Genetic is a two way street (technically a three way interaction) as it were.....an interaction between Stress (Environment) and Poor Nutrition....and why B-Vitamin are important part of how our body regulates stress in our body...

Trents, this research helped me to understand the connection between our environment and being low in B-Vitamins

Entitled "Vitamin B combination (of Vitamin B1, B2 and B3) reduces fluconazole toxicity in Wistar rats"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30903555/

It shows how B-Vitamins help down regulate stress in our bodies.....avoiding toxicity.

They concluded/noted quoting again...

"Restoration of altered biochemical parameters and cellular architecture of hepatocytes by different combination of these vitamins (B1, B2, B3) proves the chemo preventive potential of these micro nutrients' in FLZ toxicity."

And as for a "Leaky Gut" Niacin has been used in the treatment of "Oxidative Stress" and to reverse Intestinal Permeability IE a "Leaky Gut"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16713031/

This research is 15 years old this year....and people have not put all the pieces together....because they don't see the "Bigger Picture" of how all these things are connected.

It is "Stringing the Pearls" until you are able to see the bigger picture.

Leaky gut and Elevated Zonulin levels are a sign of  a Niacin deficiency!

I didn't write it so I will cite it...

https://alobar.livejournal.com/2930798.html#%2F2930798.html

This person put these resources together over a dozen years ago....

With resources on the Zonulin and Niacin connection going back almost 40 years....

That have been forgotten.....because we have not been looking at the bigger picture!

And I just recently rediscovered it....the Lord being my help.

I am sharing now it.....in the hopes it might help someone else...

We have to pass the torch of knowledge on to the next generation or the light will go out and we will be back in darkness again for another dozen years plus!!!!

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advise.

Posterboy,

Posterboy Mentor
Posterboy
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On 6/19/2021 at 11:33 PM, trents said:

Instead of what? An autoimmune disease?

Trents,

I wanted to include/cite this recent research on what triggers an auto-immune disease?

Celiac.com did an article on this not too long ago....but I think this article explains the details a little better...

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321624

quoting from the article...

"Mesothelial cells communicate with the organs they line using small projections called microvilli, and the medium through which they send their message is the neurotransmitter acetylcholine.

'From inflammatory to anti-inflammatory'

So what actually happens? The study authors note that those who drank the baking soda solution experienced a shift in the kinds of immune cells activated in the spleen. In fact, pro-inflammatory macrophages (M1) dwindled in number, while the levels of anti-inflammatory cells (M2) rose."

The "Anti-inflmamtory" state in the body is governed by the neurotransmitter Acetylcholine....

Soo when we get too low in this Neurotranmitter.....our body goes into "Anti-inflammatory" mode....

I hope this is helpful but it is not medical advice.

Posterboy,

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Here is a link on the topic:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/06/210629144312.htm

Also the vaccine seems to help a high percentage of people with long term symptoms of covid. 

https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2021/vaccines-may-help-long-haulers-covid.html

There is a strong connection to a particular virus (not covid) and celiac disease (I don't remember which one but people can look it up).

There is also a vaccine (I don't remember which one it is off hand, but it is not the covid vaccine) that is much less effective if someone is celiac. 

If someone gets severe covid, it does seem likely to cause other problems. So I think everyone should get vaccinated. 

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I think you might mean reovirus:

 

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