Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

blood tests for celiac


Judi Magner

Recommended Posts

Judi Magner Newbie

My ND did a blood test that shows I am positive for both DQ2 and DQ8. It says greater than 95% of celiac patients are positive for either of these. I have been gluten free for about 10 years so an endoscopy always shows negative for celiac. Is there a genetic test that would confirm this diagnosis?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



trents Grand Master
56 minutes ago, Judi Magner said:

My ND did a blood test that shows I am positive for both DQ2 and DQ8. It says greater than 95% of celiac patients are positive for either of these. I have been gluten free for about 10 years so an endoscopy always shows negative for celiac. Is there a genetic test that would confirm this diagnosis?

Welcome to the forum, Judi Magner!

The only genetic test available at this time for celiac disease is the one you have already had done. It does not diagnose active celiac disease but only establishes the potential to develop active celiac disease. About 40% of the population have one or more of these two genes but only about 1% of the population experience the active form. There are two test modes available at this time to establish the presence of active celiac disease. One test mode involves the detection of serum antibodies that celiac disease inflammation in the small bowel lining typically produces. The other is the biopsy with microscopic examination of the small bowel lining for damage caused by that inflammation. Typically, the biopsy is done in response to positive antibody scores and serves the purpose of confirmation. However, it is sometimes the case that individual immune systems respond atypically and active celiac disease does not produce the expected antibodies such that the disease is confirmed by biopsy if celiac symptoms warrant further investigation. Both test modes can be and often are invalidated by beginning the gluten free diet for some weeks previous to testing since this allows for the abatement of the inflammation and healing of the SB lining to take place.

It is unfortunate that many doctors neglect (or don't know enough) to advise their patients to continue to consume regular amounts of gluten for 6-8 weeks preceding the serum antibody testing and for two weeks preceding the endoscopy/biopsy. It is also the case that many seeking a diagnosis are made so ill by gluten that they medically and physically cannot continue consuming gluten before testing is complete.

At this point, your only option would be to resume the consumption of gluten for 6-8 weeks if you want to distinguish whether or not you have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity).

Scott Adams Grand Master

A genetic test would give you your probability for having celiac disease, and I to am positive for DQ2 and DQ8--I believe people with both markers have an ~15% of getting celiac disease--but to confirm the diagnosis would require a gluten challenge for at least 6-8 weeks for the blood tests, and at least 2 weeks for a biopsy:

 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,208
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    juliemt
    Newest Member
    juliemt
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
      Celiac disease is the most likely cause, but here are articles about the other possible causes:    
    • xxnonamexx
      Please read: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-steps-improve-gluten-ingredient-disclosure-foods?fbclid=IwY2xjawPeXhJleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFzaDc3NWRaYzlJOFJ4R0Fic3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHrwuSsw8Be7VNGOrKKWFVbrjmf59SGht05nIALwnjQ0DoGkDDK1doRBDzeeX_aem_GZcRcbhisMTyFUp3YMUU9Q
    • cristiana
      Hi @Atl222 As @trents points out, there could be many reasons for this biopsy result.  I am interested to know, is your gastroenterologist concerned?  Also, are your blood tests showing steady improvement over the years? I remember when I had my last biopsy, several years after diagnosis, mine came back with with raised lymphocytes but no villous damage, too! In my own case, my consultant wasn't remotely concerned - in fact, he said I might still get this result even if all I ever did was eat nothing but rice and water.   My coeliac blood tests were still steadily improving, albeit slowly, which was reassuring.
    • trents
      Welcome to the celiac.com community, @Atl222! Yes, your increased lymphocytes could be in response to oats or it could possibly be cross contamination from gluten that is getting into your diet from some unexpected source but not enough to damage the villi. And I'm certain that increased lymphocytes can be caused by other things besides celiac disease or gluten/oats exposure. See attachment. But you might try eliminating oats to start with and possibly dairy for a few months and then seek another endoscopy/biopsy to see if there was a reduction in lymphocyte counts. 
    • Scott Adams
      This is a solid, well-reasoned approach. You’re right that “koji” by itself doesn’t indicate gluten status, and the risk really does come down to which grain is used to culture it. The fact that you directly contacted Eden Foods and received a clear statement that their koji is made from rice only, with no wheat or barley, is meaningful due diligence—especially since Eden has a long-standing reputation for transparency. While the lack of gluten labeling can understandably give pause, manufacturer confirmation like this is often what people rely on for traditionally fermented products. As always, trusting your body after trying it is reasonable, but based on the information you gathered, your conclusion makes sense.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.