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Hi everyone,

I'm sorry to have just disappeared. I have been having a really rough time with morning sickness and fatigue. UGH. I feel 'green' almost all day long. All food seems repulsive so I have to make myself eat. I'm having a hard time drinking water too. I'm still taking my thyroid meds to keep that in check. I started a good prenatal early on, but that's all I'm taking for now. The doctor that was treating me wanted me to start taking DHEA in place of the cortisone I was taking for adrenal fatigue. He also wanted me to stay on most of the other supplements he had me on. But, I just didn't feel comfortable doing that. I still haven't seen my OB yet. My first appointment with her is Nov. 14th. I'll be 10 weeks along at that time. From my calculations the baby is due June 10th.

I think I responded quickly and really well to the metal detox that I was doing. First of all, getting pregnant I believe was a combination of getting the metals out of my system and getting my thyroid in check. But, another thing I've noticed is I don't have pain in my thumb joints anymore. Prior to all this treatment I had been diagnosed with arthritis in my thumbs. It was quite painful. I took Naproxen for a couple of weeks to get the pain under control. I then started a combination of glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM. This kept the pain at bay. But, if I missed a day of the supplement I would be right back in a lot of pain. Well I found out that this is not safe to take while pregnant so I stopped taking it as soon as I found I was pregnant. I have had no pain at all in my thumbs! I believe removing the mercury burden took care of this. I really don't have anything else going on...just waiting for the 2nd trimester so I can feel better :)

Oh one other little tidbit...I took my 11 year old to the endocrinologist yesterday for an eval. He's really short (7th percentile). His pediatrician also did an X-ray to age his bones. They were 18 months delayed so she referred us to the endo. The pediatrician wants to make sure that HGH isn't necessary. So I found out he's in early puberty :o They ran a bunch of blood work on him to rule out anything else that could be causing his short stature and to check to see if he is HGH deficient. We're going to wait for 6 months and see where he's at as long as nothing shows up in the blood work. The endo explained that puberty will kick start the growth process so we want to see where that takes him. But, if he needs growth hormones this is the best time to start, because the puberty hormones would be leveraged at the same time. She also explained that with his bone age being delayed by 18 months that means he has that much more potential for growth. Whereas if his bone age and chronological age were the same he'd have less potential for growth. It was all very interesting. But, him being in the early stage of puberty was the most shocking!! I'm just not ready for all this :P

Now I'm going to try and catch up on you all. I hope everyone is moving forward in their search for health and balance.


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AndreaB Contributor

Thanks for the update Ami. :)

Sorry to hear about the morning sickness. :(

Yay on the thumb pain being gone! That is great that you were able to take care of what you did before getting pregnant.

As far as your son coming up on puberty, he's the right age. It's so sad that puberty is getting so much younger in children.

Come by when you feel up to it. We'll always be ready for udates on how you and baby/children are doing. :)

covsooze Enthusiast

Our internet connection's been down for a few days, so it might take a while to catch up. Just wanted to add that it's great to 'see' you Ami, I've been thinking about you and wondering how you're doing. Take care.

Susie x

Green12 Enthusiast

Thanks for the update Ami, I had been wondering how you've been doing.

confusedks Enthusiast

I don't know if this has already been covered, but what do all of you do for nausea? I am SO NAUSEOUS!!! It is terrible! My stomach is really grumbly and airy feeling. It is very strange.

Kassandra

Rachel--24 Collaborator
came on to see how your IV went rachel..........so happy it went well for you

Thanks Judy! :)

I'm really happy that it went so well after I'd been dreading it all week. I was debating whether or not to let them know about my reaction to the last IV cuz I didnt want them to cancel my test.

It all worked out and I'm really happy with my Dr.'s decision to do the DMPS by itself.

I will get my results in a couple weeks...orange jug is sitting in the fridge till tomorrow.

Now I'm just praying that the levels of metals in that jug are HIGH.

Jin...how is Dart doing??

Ami....thanks for the update. We've all been thinking of you. Sorry about the morning sickness...hopefully it gets better. :)

Rachel--24 Collaborator
I'm doing much better. Seth's bottom is not, so I'm thinking he's reacting to something I'm taking to get rid of this infection. :(

I did the cranberry juice with oregano oil 3x yesterday along with the pau d'arco the 2x (which I had already been on). Somehow, I suspect the oregano oil as the bothersome thing with Seth, but who knows, maybe it's unrelated.

Awww...poor Seth. :(

I would suspect the oregano oil too. How long will you be taking these things for your infection??


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Rachel--24 Collaborator
Can't wait til you talk to your doctor and can tell us what your test results are and mean. Maybe they could do what Rachel's doctor is going to do by testing one IV thing at a time to see what you tolerate and don't tolerate.

Yeah...maybe you can ask them to do things seperately...that way you might figure out if one thing is messing you up. It seems like you're usually feeling bad after your IV's?? I didnt feel bad at all from my DMPS push... but the last IV definately caused a reaction.

My DMPS dose was the smallest dose they can do. It might also be that you're getting too high a dose of the DMPS or something else they're giving you...maybe the glutathione??

miamia Rookie
Yeah...maybe you can ask them to do things seperately...that way you might figure out if one thing is messing you up. It seems like you're usually feeling bad after your IV's?? I didnt feel bad at all from my DMPS push... but the last IV definately caused a reaction.

My DMPS dose was the smallest dose they can do. It might also be that you're getting too high a dose of the DMPS or something else they're giving you...maybe the glutathione??

Rachel-

the dose they give me of the DMPS is very low. But i suspect the glutathione is a bit much for me thats why i was talking to the nurse about it. I have chelation tomorrow so before i ge the glutathione i am going to try to talk to my doc about it.

Rachel-

when you where just eating 5 foods what were they ? I know beef and peas

Andrea-

so glad you are feeling better. Poor Seth- hopefully hes a bit better now.

mftnchn Explorer

A quick drive by....I am busy early am to late pm these days so will have to catch up later. I won't get home from my trip until next weekend.

Hope you are all doing okay. I'll try to catch up next week.

I've been really having trouble again with constipation, and just discovered that the local ascorbic acid I am taking was maybe the culprit. It could be made from something I shouldn't have, no way to really find out. I switched to only the buffered C (which I didn't have for a few days) and no local stuff yesterday, and there was quite an improvement today.

Dr phone consult later this week so I hope to have a plan in place for my winter visit to the US.

AndreaB Contributor
I would suspect the oregano oil too. How long will you be taking these things for your infection??

I figured I'd better stay on the regime for 10 days, since that is common for antibiotics. I need to go off of stuff next weekend so I can see if this thing is gone before Seth's appointment on the 6th. Doctor will want a urine sample if not. I notice I'm a little worse during the mid-day as I haven't been real good about water drinking in the morning. Most of my water drinking is done in the evening.

Dr phone consult later this week so I hope to have a plan in place for my winter visit to the US.

Good preliminary news on the vit c.

Keep us posted on when you're coming stateside again. :)

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Rachel-

when you where just eating 5 foods what were they ? I know beef and peas

Mia..

It kind of changed over time. First there was the beef, peas, applesauce, popcorn and of course ICE CREAM by the truckloads. :D

I had alot of brainfog and was more sensitive to dust, molds and chemicals. That was when my yeast antibodies were through the roof.

Then I switched the popcorn for potatoes....not much better eh. :rolleyes:

Anyways...at least the potatoes werent moldy. :)

I was eating everything in massive amounts.....of course. :P

Applesauce by the jarful

Ice cream up to 2 pints a day

Huge bowls of popcorn

Now that I've eliminated all this stuff I have WAY less brainfog....its pretty much gone...I didnt realize how bad it was until I stopped eating this stuff.

Of course that doesnt leave me with much to eat. I never have problems with the peas or beef but pretty much everything else will cause problems. I eat some frozen cauliflower but not too much. The chocolate doesnt give me any brainfog at all....I think its mostly molds and dairy that were causing the brainfog.

The chocolate seems to damage my gut though. I dont know if its the caffeine or oxalates...or what....but its definately damaging my gut. It sucks cuz I dont wanna lose weight...which is what ends up happening.

I've lost a few pounds since eating the chocolate...WTH??? Who else eats tons of chocolate and LOSES weight. :angry:

Stupid gut-damaging chocolate!! :angry:

I'm not too concerned about the lack of foods right now.....I'm eating other things randomly. I tried a banana...NOT GOOD!! Major brainfog and yeastiness from the banana. Its not just a "sugar" thing because the sugar in the chocolate chips does not have this effect. Its gotta be more of a mold/yeast thing from the ripeness of the banana.

Dang stupid yeasts and molds just take so many good foods from me!! :angry:

It was the same thing with a few tortilla chips.

I just gotta hope that the DMPS will be effective in removing the metals so I can start eating more foods. I didnt have any major symptoms from it so I'm hopeful that my body is getting rid of it after having had the LED's as well as the stuff at BioSET for my pathways, etc.

Yesterday I had some burning on my skin (shoulders, arms, face, mouth).....its a pretty good indicator that there was some redistribution. I think its to be expected since I'm just starting to deal with the metals...I just made sure to take charcoal, glutathione and porphyrazyme...ate lots of protein and drank lots of water. It got better. :)

To me it was confirmation that my metal load is really high but we'll see what the test says. I'm so anxious about it!!

Rachel--24 Collaborator

I suppose I could ask my boss to make more salsa!! :D

For whatever reason I had no problems with it....or the mission tortilla chips. :unsure:

I wonder if the organic tortilla chips are alot more moldy?? I recall reading that about organic foods being higher in mold content....I only buy organic foods for myself and I'm always reacting to the mold. <_<

Maybe my body was just doing really well on those days?? :huh:

I had NO problems eating tons of chips and salsa. Now I buy my own chips and I eat TWO of them and I'm reacting to mold! WTH?? :blink:

I will have to request more of the "magic" salsa. :)

confusedks Enthusiast

Rachel,

Do you have a problem with legumes? I know Andrea is free of them.

Andrea,

What happens when you have legumes?

Kassandra

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Kassandra,

Yup...I have problems with legumes...ALL of them. I've pretty much avoided them for a couple years now. I tried soymilk again earlier this year and I got massive headaches. Soy, peanuts and every bean out there are problems. It seems like soy is the only one to give me the major headaches and eye pain though. Peanuts are a double whammy for me since they're so moldy.

Rachel--24 Collaborator

I'm reading a good article on mercury toxicity...I'll post some of the stuff here. :)

How to limit exposure:

Environmental and Dietary Precautions

Firstly, it is prudent to remove the sources of mercury contamination, if possible. Limiting, or avoiding altogether, certain high risk foods, e.g., shellfish, coastal and inland freshwater fish and oceanic, bottom-dwelling scavengers, such as flounder, skate, etc., is a good first step. Though even deep-sea fish, such as tuna, swordfish, sea bass, shark, etc. may have significant degrees of mercury contamination.

Fish that have comparatively lower mercury contamination include cod, halibut, pollack, mackerel, sardines, redfish and herring. Since mercury is primarily stored in fatty tissues, broiling the fish and discarding the juices is sensible.

Commercially-raised poultry and eggs, which are raised on fish meal, and certain produce, especially certain tree fruit, e.g., apples, that may have been sprayed with mercury-containing pesticides, should be eliminated from the diet.

Avoidance of industrial white sugar in candy and processed foods is wise, since the oral bacteria promoted by these non-foods ferment sugar into organic acids, which increase the release of mercury and other toxic, heavy metals from amalgams.

Especially avoid chewing gum since the force of mastication stimulates release of mercury vapor from dental amalgams.[19,20] Moreover, it is very important to drink a minimum of one-half ounce per pound of body weight daily of fresh, non-fluoridated water to assist the body in flushing out toxins.

Ridgewalker Contributor
I'm reading a good article on mercury toxicity...I'll post some of the stuff here. :)

How to limit exposure:

Environmental and Dietary Precautions

Rachel,

This is useful info. Is the full article online? If it is, could you post a link?

Thanks!

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Amalgams

Studies have demonstrated that the removal of dental mercury amalgam fillings can result in definitive and significant improvements in overall health status. The Foundation for Toxic-Free Dentistry compiled data on 1,569 patients from six different sources.

Of particular interest in the FTFD analysis report is the fact that 14% of patients experienced some form of allergic symptomology and that 89% reported that their condition had improved or was entirely eliminated after removal of their silver/mercury dental amalgam fillings.

Systemic mercury toxicity appears to have a direct causal relationship to the development of allergic sensitivity to foods, chemicals and other environmental factors.

Extrapolating the FTFD data to the approximately 140 million individuals with mercury dental amalgams in the US, there would be about 19.6, million people (14%) with mercury amalgam-related allergies, and, 89% or about 17.4 million people would experience the amelioration or disappearance of their allergies by simply ha ving their silver/mercury dental amalgam fillings replaced with non-mercury, hypoallergenic composite dental fillings.

ADA and FDA Have Misinformed the American Public

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Toxic Damage May Occur Before Symptoms Become Obvious

According to Dr. Michael Ziff and his research associates, a widely respected dental authority on mercury toxicity, "...mercury is so toxic to the human organism that there can be cell death or irreversible chemical damage long before clinically observable symptoms appear indicating that something is wrong. :o

Further, you could be experiencing some of the symptoms of mercury (poisoning) released from amalgam dental fillings, but since the mercury exposure is so gradual and because the time between the placement of the fillings and the onset of symptoms can vary so dramatically (from days to years, based on your own biochemical makeup and sensitivity), it may not be readily apparent or identifiable as being associated with dental mercury.

Under these conditions, your physician would have extreme difficulty in relating subclinical symptoms (not readily apparent or identifiable as being associated with a particular disease or health problem) to mercury toxicity."" Dr. Alfred Stock, the distinguished German chemist, also alluded to the problem of diagnosing mercury toxicity as the primary source of clinical symptoms in the earlier stages of systemic poisoning as long ago as 1926.

Rachel--24 Collaborator
Rachel,

This is useful info. Is the full article online? If it is, could you post a link?

Thanks!

Sarah...here it is. :)

Open Original Shared Link

Its several pages long...thats the link to page 1.

Ridgewalker Contributor
Sarah...here it is. :)

Open Original Shared Link

Its several pages long...thats the link to page 1.

Thank you! And thanks for posting the info! :D

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Symptoms

The real danger arises from exposure to mercury vapor. Metallic mercury vapor crosses the blood-brain barrier, where it accumulates in the central nervous system (CNS), and damages brain cells, particularly sensory and motor neurons.

Elemental mercury vapor exposure may result in the following symptoms:

short- and long-term memory loss; poor concentration; intellectual decline; irritability; fits of anger; depression; anxiety or nervousness; shyness or timidity; loss of self-confidence; drowsiness; insomnia; bleeding gums; loosening of teeth; excessive salivation; halitosis or foul breath; metallic taste in the mouth;

leukoplakia or white patches of the oral mucosa; gingivitis; stomatitis; ulceration of gingiva, palate and tongue; burning sensation in mouth and throat; alveolar (jaw) bone loss; abdominal cramps; constipation or diarrhea; colitis; arrhythmias (bradycardia, tachycardia); feeble and irregular pulse;

alterations in blood pressure; chest pain or pressure; persistent cough; shallow and irregular breathing; emphysema; asthma; rhinitis; sinusitis; allergies; lymphadenopathy or swollen glands, especially in the neck; subnormal body temperature; excessive perspiration; cold, clammy skin, especially of the hands and feet;

joint pains; peripheral edema or swelling of limbs; muscle weakness; fatigue; weight loss; anorexia or loss of appetite; anemia; hypoxia (poor oxygenation of tissues); chronic or frequent headaches; dizziness, tinnitus or noises in ears; dim or double vision; hearing loss; fine tremors of the hands, feet, eyelids, lips and tongue; parasthesias or abnormal, unpleasant sensations; and, hallucinations and manic depression in severe cases.

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Dental Amalgam Proven to be a Major Source of Mercury Toxicity

Dental amalgam is comprised of approximately 46% to 56% elemental mercury with varying amounts of silver, copper, zinc, tin and other trace metals depending on the manufacturing source. A large dental amalgam may contain more than 750 mg of elemental mercury.

After placement of a mercury/silver dental amalgam, there is persistent, low level release of elemental mercury vapor into the body for many years thereafter.

Scientific research has proven that the corrosion of dental amalgams by chewing, exposure to oxygen in breathed air, food acids and the electrolytic effect of minerals in saliva (called "oral galvanism"), causes the continual release of elemental mercury vapor into the body 24 hours a day and the uptake of inorganic mercury in swallowed saliva that exceeds known standards of exposure by 10 to 100 times.

Studies have shown that a single 0.4 [cm.sup.2] ocdusal amalgam can release 15 mcg of mercury vapor per day. Human autopsy research has validated the statistical correlation between the number of dental amalgam fillings and CNS mercury levels.

US government risk assessment studies prepared by the Public Heath Service in 1994, established standard minimum risk levels (MRLs) for acute and chronic mercury exposure for the general population.

The acute mercury exposure MRL is 0.02 mcg per cubic meter of air which translates into an intake of 0.4 mcg per day. The chronic mercury exposure MRL is 0.014 mcg per cubic meter of air which translates into an intake of 0.28 mcg per day.

From conservative estimates of the daily intake of amalgam mercury vapor determined by medical and dental experts, the USPHS has concluded that the average daily intake of amalgam mercury vapor exceeds the established MRLs.

The USPHS has ruled that chronic exposure to mercury from dental amalgams is not without risk to the general population (USPHS, ATSDR; Toxicological Profile for Mercury: Update TP-93/10; page 125).

Moreover, in 1991, the World Health Organization confirmed that dental amalgam is the greatest source of mercury Vapor in the non-industrially exposed population, significantly exceeding that from food or air.

Rachel--24 Collaborator

The ADA :angry:

Most, revealing of the ADA's current attitude toward the public welfare regarding amalgams is a legal brief filed with the court by attorneys for the ADA in a recent California civil lawsuit. In this legal case, the plaintiff claiming that he sustained injuries stemming from exposure to mercury dental amalgams, named as defendants his treating dentist, two amalgam manufacturers, an amalgam distributor and the American Dental Association.

The ADA attorneys' argument was as follows: "The ADA owes no legal duty of care to protect the public from allegedly dangerous products used by dentists. The ADA did not manufacture, design, supply or install the mercury-containing amalgams. The ADA does not control those who do (a blatant falsehood with regard to US dentists).

The ADA's only alleged involvement in the product was to provide information regarding its use. Dissemination of information relating to the practice of dentistry does not create a duty of care to protect the public from potential injury [filed in the Superior Court of the State of California, County of Santa Clara, Case #718228]."

The bottom line is that the ADA does not see itself as responsible to the American public for telling the truth about the dangers of dental mercury amalgam.

Rachel--24 Collaborator

More sources of exposure...

Another potential source of mercury toxicity is that found in certain medications, including allopathic, conventional drugs, i.e., mercurochrome and vaccinations containing thimerosal (sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate) as a preservative, etc., as well as some contaminated and/or adulterated, traditional Chinese and Ayurvedic botanical medicines.

By far, the single most significant source of systemic mercury toxicity in the human population, confirmed by the World Health Organization and the US Public Health Service, is dental mercury amalgam.

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      Welcome, @catnapt! The most recent guidelines are the daily consumption of a minimum of 10g of gluten (about the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of two weeks. But if possible stretching that out even more would enhance the chances of getting valid test results. These guidelines are for those who have been eating gluten free for a significant amount of time. It's called the "gluten challenge".  Yes, you can develop celiac disease at any stage of life. There is a genetic component but also a stress trigger that is needed to activate the celiac genes. About 30-40% of the general population possesses the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% of the general population actually develop celiac disease. For most with the potential, the triggering stress event doesn't happen. It can be many things but often it is a viral infection. Having said that, it is also the case that many, many people who eventually are diagnosed with celiac disease probably experienced the actual onset years before. Many celiacs are of the "silent" type, meaning that symptoms are largely missing or very minor and get overlooked until damage to the small bowel lining becomes advanced or they develop iron deficiency anemia or some other medical problem associated with celiac disease. Many, many are never diagnosed or are diagnosed later in life because they did not experience classic symptoms. And many physicians are only looking for classic symptoms. We now know that there are over 200 symptoms/medical problems associated with celiac disease but many docs are only looking for things like boating, gas, diarrhea. I certainly understand your concerns about not wanting to damage your body by taking on a gluten challenge. Your other option is to totally commit to gluten free eating and see if your symptoms improve. It can take two years or more for complete healing of the small bowel lining once going gluten free but usually people experience significant improvement well before then. If their is significant improvement in your symptoms when going seriously gluten free, then you likely have your answer. You would either have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity).
    • catnapt
      after several years of issues with a para-gland issue, my endo has decided it's a good idea for me to be tested for celiac disease. I am 70 yrs old and stunned to learn that you can get celiac this late in life. I have just gradually stopped eating most foods that contain gluten over the past several years- they just make me feel ill- although I attributed it to other things like bread spiking blood sugar- or to the things I ate *with* the bread or crackers etc   I went to a party in Nov and ate a LOT of a vegan roast made with vital wheat gluten- as well as stuffing, rolls and pie crust... and OMG I was so sick! the pain, the bloating, the gas, the nausea... I didn't think it would ever end (but it did) and I was ready to go the ER but it finally subsided.   I mentioned this to my endo and now she wants me to be tested for celiac after 2 weeks of being on gluten foods. She has kind of flip flopped on how much gluten I should eat, telling me that if the symptoms are severe I can stop. I am eating 2-3 thin slices of bread per day (or english muffins) and wow- it does make me feel awful. But not as bad as when I ate that massive amnt of vital wheat gluten. so I will continue on if I have to... but what bothers me is - if it IS celiac, it seems stupid for lack of a better word, to intentionally cause more damage to my body... but I am also worried, on the other hand, that this is not a long enough challenge to make the blood work results valid.   can you give me any insight into this please?   thank you
    • trents
      The biopsy looks for damage to the mucosal lining of the small bowel from the inflammation caused by celiac disease when gluten is ingested. Once you remove gluten from the diet, inflammation subsides and the mucosal lining begins to heal. 
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