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And I took an insane senior-level "Statistics & Probabilities" class (Math464) where the variables like x & y, instead of standing for numbers, actually stood for entire sets of multi-variable EQUATIONS themselves! :blink:

So, believe me when I say that a 2nd ticket exactly doubles the chances of winning!! EXACTLY!!! :P

The jump from 1:150,000,000 to 1:75,000,000 doesn't seem worth the extra dollar to me. :D

I'm glad you learned such useful info in your stats class! :lol: I took stats ... hated it ... BORING ... I went to class the day before the exam to see where it was and the day after to get my grade, that was it. Hated it. Did I say it was boring? I got a B. Wasn't worth attending class to get an A!!!


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Rachel--24 Collaborator

Charlie, I read your post last night.

Scott uses detox foot pads and has them on his site. I plan on asking him about your question. I was waiting until the weekend because there are some other things I wanted to ask him about as well. I'll let you know when I get an answer to that question.

I'll send you a pm to let you know when I post about it. :)

rinne Apprentice

Charlie, the pain was not so bad. As to any after affects, I can't see so much of a difference but then the package indicates that you should use them until they are no longer stained and mine are.

Reading along, lots to post to but I'm kind of foggy, fourth day of candida diet.

See you later. :)

CarlaB Enthusiast
Reading along, lots to post to but I'm kind of foggy, fourth day of candida diet.

Oh, no, Rinne bar withdrawal!!!! :o:o:o

Ecoffee and whey should help! ;) I used both today because I woke up groggy (should I really call it waking up when I really didn't sleep much????) .... even with so little sleep, I'm feeling great ... a lot different than I did before my detox stuff.

Going to the pool to go get some Vitamin D. :D I have to go late because of the Cipro .... plus then we don't have to slather the kids with sunscreen.

tom Contributor
I'm glad you learned such useful info in your stats class! :lol:

Hehe while it did have stats in the title, it really was far from the classic "stats class". Mine was an insane math class. :P

Not boring, but certainly quite challenging.

tom Contributor
Reading along, lots to post to but I'm kind of foggy, fourth day of candida diet.

Aaargh I feel like my sidekick failed me!!

Rinne, I didn't know u started a candida diet! :blink:

Did I skip entire pages????

Don't know what your diet was before, but curious about how drastic the change is.

I know I felt better on day1 :) , w/ no die-off until getting on the ND's pills & powders a week later.

Sure wish *I'd* already known how to cook before suddenly *needing* to know, so you're ahead of the game there.

Good luck w/ that & hope it works wonders. :);)

AndreaB Contributor
When the country got tilted so all the nuts rolled to the left, many health nuts rolled too. :)

I take it nobody but me thinks my Powerball winnings will soon be in a Rachelville health fund? C'mon ppl!!! I'm feelin' Lucky (w/ a capital L, and that rhymes w/ Well, as in GET) !!!!! :o

:lol::lol:

Of course I'm interested. We are one of the ones struggling with getting treatments. Chances are extremely slim, but I'm rooting for you to get a slice.


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Rachel--24 Collaborator
:lol::lol:

Of course I'm interested. We are one of the ones struggling with getting treatments. Chances are extremely slim, but I'm rooting for you to get a slice.

I'm rooting too. I'm rooting for everyone here needing some help with the treatments. I'm rooting for Lisa too. :D

tom Contributor
:lol::lol:

Of course I'm interested. We are one of the ones struggling with getting treatments. Chances are extremely slim, but I'm rooting for you to get a slice.

Hehe I thought I made it clear from the beginning; my slice isn't any bigger than yours.

Or yours or yours.

You, over there! Same slice!

Who wants the slice w/ the fancy flower o'frosting on it?

It's the Rachelville Health Fund!!!!

Mtndog Collaborator

Quick drive by- today is sis's birthday.

What is the brand name of the whey protein you guys use? And it's denatured, right? What does that mean? The woman at my local health food store had never heard of it. <_<

Carla- I remember when you posted about getting a cold- chock it up to brain fog, but did you say that was a GOOD sign? I actually have a head cold...havent had one in years :huh:

Rachel--24 Collaborator

I decided I need to go to the dentist. :ph34r:

I need to get my teeth cleaned cuz its been more than 2 years now. Theres two really well respected holistic dentists in my area. I've seen both....one for my amalgam removals and the other checked for possible infections last year. He used a laser to see if I might have a problem where I had one extraction.

I remember thinking that he seemed to have some first hand experience with chronic illness the way he talked to me. I think I'm gonna see him because I remember him talking about alot of his patients having multiple chemical sensitivities....so I know he's very familiar with all this.

I remember talking to him about my jaw....the TMJ was really bad that day and it also happened to be the same day that I had that "episode" after starting Metronidazole. I didnt go to work that day but I did make it to my dentist appt.

I told him how my jaw problems only started once I got sick....and I asked him if it could ever resolve itself. He simply said "Yeah....it can."

I asked him "How....what do I need to do?"

He said "You need to find out what is putting so much stress on your immune system."

It was the HN Dr. that refered me to him last year and my other Dr.'s are familiar with him so right now I was trying to find out more info....and I came across this:

I just wanted to add here that I met Tim Gallagher today for a consolation and was extremely impressed. One thing that I find helpful is to understand ones motives for branching off the path of traditional medicine.

When I asked him why all dentists don't "get" this, his reply said it all. He calmly stated, "because they need to get mercury poisoned".

I thought he was kidding or something. But in reality, that is what happened to him 15 years ago as a result of working with it and they thought he had MS. That was his motivation, and has been a driving force behind this chelation/mercury removal force for some time. He is familiar with Andy's work, and speaks of him highly. He is also connected to a whole host of other professionals supporting this cause.

Now that I know for sure that mercury is the cause of my illness....and I know that he indeed has first hand experince and its his motivation for practicing holistic dentistry...he's the one I'm gonna see again.

No traditional dentist is ever gonna mess with my teeth again....not even for a cleaning. :D

I got alot worse at the beginning of 2004 right after having my teeth cleaned at a regular dentist. Of course I was already sick but I did get worse after the cleaning. I never really knew why but since then I've read alot about how the polishing of amalgams releases alot of mercury vapor. They say to never allow the amalgams to be polished.

Well yeah....there was lots of cleaning and polishing that day (I still had the last 2 amalgams)...at that point my system was already overloaded and I'm pretty sure just the cleaning and polishing got me much worse. :(

In the first couple years I cant even count how many different dentists I saw....including TMJ specialists. Tons of x-rays and tons of people cleaning and looking at my teeth. It should have been crystal clear that I was sick from the dental work from the start....I never had any problems with my teeth until those fillings came out and the crowns went in...then all heck broke loose in my mouth. :(

I need to break down and get my teeth cleaned though. :)

Rachel--24 Collaborator
What is the brand name of the whey protein you guys use? And it's denatured, right? What does that mean? The woman at my local health food store had never heard of it. <_<

No...you dont want denatured....that means the proteins have been heated, damaged and are no longer active.

You want undenatured whey protein. Most of the stuff sold in the stores is denatured....its no good.

The brand I use is Metagenics BioPure Protein.

It contains soy though....soy gives me headaches. I've been having headaches so I'm gonna switch brands to see if its from the soy or not.

It might not be the soy in this case.....there is also cysteine and some of the other amino acids to consider. <_<

So yeah....I'm looking for another brand too. :)

Lisa....I looked at yours and I remember liking it...could you post it again?

Rachel--24 Collaborator

Hey Lisa,

So maybe Gallagher would be a better dentist to work with for the rest of the removals? Sounds like he's got alot of experience not only with the removals but with chelation as well. Seems like he's the guy most people are seeing who are really toxic ...he might be a good choice for you. He might be able to get you on the right program.

Rachel--24 Collaborator

So now I know of 2 dentists that I've personally seen in the last few years that have been treated for mercury toxicity....so thats 2 out of maybe 9 or 10.

One told me himself...the other I just happened to read about on the internet...so there could be others that I've seen that just didnt bring it up or have never bothered to be tested.

I think 2 out of 10 is significant.

CarlaB Enthusiast
Carla- I remember when you posted about getting a cold- chock it up to brain fog, but did you say that was a GOOD sign? I actually have a head cold...havent had one in years :huh:

I took it as a good sign ... my immune system recognized I had a cold and fought it off. There was talk a while ago on this on Lymenet ... many thought it was a good sign. I wonder if it's a detox thing ... I was about as far into treatment as you are, I think, when I got mine.

In Fit For Life, Harvey Diamond, who is all about detox (he has agent orange and is still around and walking with his natural cures), says that's what a cold is. I don't entirely buy that because they can be viruses, but I understand what he means. He has a my space with a lot of information.

I bought my whey at Wild Oats .... it's 99% undenatured. I can't remember what brand or if it has soy, but I'll check when I'm downstairs.

NoGluGirl Contributor

Dear Rachel,

The galvanic reaction is very dangerous. I do not think many people realize how strong an impact it has on the brain. The ANS especially has been a victim of it frequently. I am so tired of everyone trying to sick their head in the sand about this. These electrical impulses are much too strong for the brain, and lead to serious cognitive impairment.

Klinghardt

nikki-uk Enthusiast
I take it nobody but me thinks my Powerball winnings will soon be in a Rachelville health fund? C'mon ppl!!! I'm feelin' Lucky (w/ a capital L, and that rhymes w/ Well, as in GET) !!!!! :o

Trust me, we'll all be interested if you win!! :lol:

Rachel--24 Collaborator

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Rachel--24 Collaborator
Klinghardt
dlp252 Apprentice

Well, I did my little detox part today...came home from the flea market and soaked in a nice epsom salt bath. I forgot to buy baking soda though....been forgetting for several weeks now. Oh well.

That's not the half of it.......no cell or cordless phone use, 8' from TV and you have to use an eraser on the remote. Can't hold it. No hair dryer, no electric stove or oven, no GPS, if you listen to music you have to use an eraser to touch the buttons........that's not all, it's quite a big paragraph of things.

Also you are supposed to be in the back seat......maybe that was 8' too.....of the car on the ride home which isn't supposed to be more than 2 hours (we can't help that one).

:o NO HAIRDRYER!!!!! Oh heavens...I'd definitely NOT be able to leave my house! :lol: I think my couch is 8' away from my TV, so that's cool...but I live with the remote in my hand. :( NO STOVE...egads...that means no food for me. :( Then there's the drive home. :lol:

Ok before I forget -

Donna! From prior post, Capitol or Berryessa Flea Circus?

Actually neither...we went to the DeAnza Flea Market....it was a beautiful day...very sunny but not too hot. I bought a lovely salmon colored purse for $10. :lol: It matches the nail polish I bought earlier at Walgreens! :lol: Such useful info for you ain't (word especially for Webster Spice) it?! :lol: Oh, also bought a package of Sharpies for $1, and a package of pot scrubbers for $1. I have a varied buying interest apparently! :P

<oops timer went off. time to adjust my nuts>

Laaaayyy-diiiies I'm roasting some cashews!!! <sheesh>

:lol: Must admit I really had to read that first line a few times before I made it to the second line. :lol:

Quick drive by- today is sis's birthday.

Happy Birthday to Bevvy Wevvy's sister!

Sorry you now have a cold! Grrrr!

Trust me, we'll all be interested if you win!!

:lol: Indeed!!!

AndreaB Contributor
What is the brand name of the whey protein you guys use? And it's denatured, right? What does that mean? The woman at my local health food store had never heard of it. <_<

No...you dont want denatured....that means the proteins have been heated, damaged and are no longer active.

You want undenatured whey protein. Most of the stuff sold in the stores is denatured....its no good.

Understanding Whey Proteins
dlp252 Apprentice

Hum, this is probably a silly question, but you all know I'm silly so here goes:

I wonder if the undenatured whey comes in a goat or sheep version? Did we talk about that before cuz it seems like it's familiar.

I've been trying a little goat and sheep plain yogurt, and I seem to be doing okay with it. I don't know if I could do that every day, but I've been having goat yogurt (one small 6oz container) one day then a few days later having the sheep milk yogurt (also 6 oz).

AndreaB Contributor
:o NO HAIRDRYER!!!!! Oh heavens...I'd definitely NOT be able to leave my house! :lol: I think my couch is 8' away from my TV, so that's cool...but I live with the remote in my hand. :( NO STOVE...egads...that means no food for me. :( Then there's the drive home. :lol:

They make things fun don't they. :P:lol::lol:

Sounds like you had a nice morning. :)

Jin,

Hope you don't suffer from the cracker crumbs. :(

Bev,

Hugs for herxes and hope this cold isn't a bad one.

AndreaB Contributor
Hum, this is probably a silly question, but you all know I'm silly so here goes:

I wonder if the undenatured whey comes in a goat or sheep version? Did we talk about that before cuz it seems like it's familiar.

I've been trying a little goat and sheep plain yogurt, and I seem to be doing okay with it. I don't know if I could do that every day, but I've been having goat yogurt (one small 6oz container) one day then a few days later having the sheep milk yogurt (also 6 oz).

I don't know. I know the probiotics we buy (from Mercola) are from goats milk.

Talitha loves taking those out of the capsule.

I wonder if you'd be able to tolerate the ones I listed. They are both grass fed cows and raw I believe. Supposedly raw is beter tolerated than the pastuerized stuff.

Rachel--24 Collaborator
I've found non-denatured whey. I forget who puts it out but it's organic, grass fed cows (forget wether they were 100% but I think they were), no soy is in it, etc.

It's Whey Cool. Mercola also sells a good one called Whey Healthier. It does have soy lecithin in it.

We are looking into getting Whey Cool since it has no soy components in it.

Andrea...you are the BEST! :wub:

This is the one that Dr. K. mentions as being his favorite.

Its put out by the people who were actually doing the interview....Dr. K. was saying "I'm not trying to push your product but this is the one I've found to be the best".

It was the Whey Cool. I didnt write it down so I was just about to try to search for his comments in the interview.

Thanks...now I dont need to do that. :)

Its by Designs For Health.....I'm pretty sure they were the ones who were interviewing Dr. Klinghardt.

Heres the link for anyone interested

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