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Judyin Philly Enthusiast
Judyin Philly
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I had basically decided I needed to take a break from the boards. I was grouchy and I feel like I haven't been contributing much, and basically just feeling sorry for myself and my situation. I logged on two different mornings to quietly announce that I was going to take a break so no one would worry, and lo and behold someone had posted something that made me smile, and wham...I was right back in the swing of things.

Hi Everyone.

I can so relate to what you wrote Donna!

Isn't it amazing that on a forum of 15,000 people, we want to let people know we are taking a break so they don't WORRY ABOUT US?

I'm not sure there are other forums or threads on c.com where folks are as genuinely concerned about each other as they are on this thread.

You all see me reading every-few days. I come because of the info but also because there is usually someone who will post something that cracks me up and gives me a smile when I needed one.

EDIT-Forgot...I wanted to add...remember Vidorscope..aka Mantis? Now there is a fella who can come out witht the best one liners ever! Remember him? Miss him and his sence of humor.

I don't have information to add but so appreciate receiving the info I can get that relates to me.

THANK YOU EVERYONE, FOR ALL THE TIME YOU'VE SPENT GATHERING INFO AND YOUR EFFORTS TO SHARE IT WITH US.

JUDY

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AndreaB Contributor
AndreaB
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Rachel - I'd like to express that I think u shouldn't change a thing in what & how u post.

I've said before I believe it has great value.

Most of my own last 5-8yrs, I wouldn't have been able or willing to go find such info on my own, and I'm sure plenty of readers are in that situation, whether we see their names or not. (I know we all see the #s of guests in the thread)

I agree with this too.

I appreciate Rachel's time in posting different quotes and her experiences.

AndreaB Contributor
AndreaB
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Isn't it amazing that on a forum of 15,000 people, we want to let people know we are taking a break so they don't WORRY ABOUT US?

I'm not sure there are other forums or threads on c.com where folks are as genuinely concerned about each other as they are on this thread.

I think it's amazing too, and no I don't see that on the other threads.

Judy, we always like to hear from you and your posts are just as important as everyone elses. :)

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
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diamondheart Newbie
diamondheart
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Hello All,

I haven't posted since before the 4th of July when I had my 1st LED treatment and I was supposed to stay away from the computer for 25 hours. I guess I missed some fireworks here!

As for the LED treatment, I was a bit skeptical. I don't have long to post, but I'll just say that I think I did have some detoxifying symptoms. They were pretty mild, but it seemed to have worked on some level. The first treatment focused on fungal toxins. The next 4 treatments will consist of 1 toxin and 1 food to treat. I probably won't do another treatment until August since I'm broke right now :( .

I'm very excited to report that I had my first amalgam removed today :) !! I was nearly peeing my pants this morning, I was so nervous. I told DH, "It's been nice knowing you!!", before I left. For doing something I absolutely hate more in the universe, it turned out ok :ph34r: . I went with the dentist I was originally skeptical about. He talked me through a breathing exercise to calm me before numbing me up. He said that was the worst part, and he was right! He even gave me Rescue Remedy before it all started. I was so worked up, I had completely forgotten that I had my own stash with me! I was very happy with their use of the dental dam. It was definitely better than my last dentist. He had all the mercury out of that one filling in about 45 seconds. It was very quick, thankfully. I'm happy to see less silver in my mouth. I had 4 different composite materials tested by the ART lady before going, and only one was a winner, the one they used.

My dentist is going on vacation for 2 1/2 weeks, so it will be about 3 weeks before I have the other 3 amalgams removed. I tried to get him to remove one more on the other side of my mouth, but he wanted to do one side of my mouth at a time. I originally thought I had 5 amalgams, but I had 4, one of which is very small. One of the more questionable fillings was removed today, and the crack that was under it didn't turn out to be a problem after all (whew!).

I have decided to go the slow chelation route with all natural stuff. I really don't want to mess with the chemical chelators after I get all the amalgams out. Maybe I will do it someday, after I have a baby and am done breastfeeding. I've read mixed reviews on DMPS and DMSA. I've decided that right now, it's not worth the risk of what those might do to me. I'm just glad to be reducing my daily mercury load by removing the amalgams. I examined my fillings after the consult with the dentist, and I could see how much they had worn and pitted. I decided that it didn't make much sense to have a toxic substance in my mouth, so might as well take them out.

Claire

dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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Rachel - I'd like to express that I think u shouldn't change a thing in what & how u post.

I've said before I believe it has great value.

Most of my own last 5-8yrs, I wouldn't have been able or willing to go find such info on my own, and I'm sure plenty of readers are in that situation, whether we see their names or not. (I know we all see the #s of guests in the thread)

I agree wholeheartedly!! Rachel, hope you'll continue to post too!

I didn't know that! :o Look at you now. :D

Isn't our Patti just the most amazing, cutest person!?

Isn't it amazing that on a forum of 15,000 people, we want to let people know we are taking a break so they don't WORRY ABOUT US?

I'm not sure there are other forums or threads on c.com where folks are as genuinely concerned about each other as they are on this thread.

You all see me reading every-few days. I come because of the info but also because there is usually someone who will post something that cracks me up and gives me a smile when I needed one.

EDIT-Forgot...I wanted to add...remember Vidorscope..aka Mantis? Now there is a fella who can come out witht the best one liners ever! Remember him? Miss him and his sence of humor.

I don't have information to add but so appreciate receiving the info I can get that relates to me.

THANK YOU EVERYONE, FOR ALL THE TIME YOU'VE SPENT GATHERING INFO AND YOUR EFFORTS TO SHARE IT WITH US.

Hi Judy! I just know that I wonder what happens to people when i don't see them for a while...I still think of Evie too and wonder how she's doing. I don't worry quite as much since her last couple of posts were more encouraging, but I still wonder. I'd certain miss everyone here and wonder what happened to them.

AndreaB Contributor
AndreaB
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As for the LED treatment, I was a bit skeptical. I don't have long to post, but I'll just say that I think I did have some detoxifying symptoms. They were pretty mild, but it seemed to have worked on some level. The first treatment focused on fungal toxins. The next 4 treatments will consist of 1 toxin and 1 food to treat. I probably won't do another treatment until August since I'm broke right now :( .

Thanks for posting Claire. I was wondering how you did/what you thought of the LED. T had some pain in areas during the detox period.

I'm very excited to report that I had my first amalgam removed today :) !!

Yay!!!!

I still wonder if I should have tried to get one or two taken care of, but Seth is so sensitive to more metals getting stirred up (that's my assumption anyway). I'm using some of those funds to start treatments with T now.

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AndreaB Contributor
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I still think of Evie too and wonder how she's doing. I don't worry quite as much since her last couple of posts were more encouraging, but I still wonder.

Evie was on reading last night. She hasn't been over here as much but does pop onto D/S once in awhile too.

dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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As for the LED treatment, I was a bit skeptical. I don't have long to post, but I'll just say that I think I did have some detoxifying symptoms. They were pretty mild, but it seemed to have worked on some level. The first treatment focused on fungal toxins. The next 4 treatments will consist of 1 toxin and 1 food to treat. I probably won't do another treatment until August since I'm broke right now :( .

Claire, I'm so excited about these treatments, and congratulations on your first removal!!!! Sounds like it went really well! I think you might be better off waiting in between a bit...I think that's why I got so sick after my vacation.

Oh holy cow, I'm so interested in these LED treatments now, LOL.

Judyin Philly Enthusiast
Judyin Philly
Posted

Thanks Andrea!

Patti-- look how far you've come is right!!!! :rolleyes: you now do searches for me :lol:

Donna,

Evie is doing well last I heard last week.

She posts occasionally in the daily strength forum.

She had a fall and hurt her wrist before the 4th.

Hear from Vincent on daily strength too. He's still a 'HOOT' with the one liners. :D

Judy

diamondheart Newbie
diamondheart
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I still wonder if I should have tried to get one or two taken care of, but Seth is so sensitive to more metals getting stirred up (that's my assumption anyway). I'm using some of those funds to start treatments with T now.

Hi Andrea, I can't remember if you are still breastfeeding Seth, but if you are, I think it's wise to wait on your amalgam removal. I'm only doing it now because I'm waiting until September to get pregnant and I was told by my ART lady that the fetus gets a lot of toxins from the mother dumped on her, but you already knew that!

I'll just say that I wouldn't have tried ART if it wasn't for people on this thread doing it (you know who you are). I have always been worried about my mercury amalgams and wasn't going to remove them until I had objective information that I shouldn't have them in. Both the hair analysis test and the DMPS test don't seem valid to me with amalgams in. Even though I think my ART lady does have an agenda with mercury removal, the fact that it didn't test well for me AND that mercury is a highly toxic substance convinced me that I shouldn't have it in my mouth during pregnancy. I'm really not doing this for me. I'm doing it for my future child! I need every edge I can get to get pregnant. Believe me, I would not have done something as scary as have fillings replaced if I could help it. To my dentist's credit, he let the numbing completely take effect for 10 minutes before doing any work on me. I think that made a big difference in not feeling any pain.

Oh, sheesh, I gotta get to work!

Claire

dlp252 Apprentice
dlp252
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Evie was on reading last night. She hasn't been over here as much but does pop onto D/S once in awhile too.

Thanks Andrea!

Patti-- look how far you've come is right!!!! :rolleyes: you now do searches for me :lol:

Donna,

Evie is doing well last I heard last week.

She posts occasionally in the daily strength forum.

She had a fall and hurt her wrist before the 4th.

Hear from Vincent on daily strength too. He's still a 'HOOT' with the one liners. :D

Judy

Thanks for the updates on Evie! Wow, didn't know she had fallen! I think of Vincent often too, and yes, he was a hoot!

Hey Judy...you're doing pretty well with the quoting and stuff too...look at you missy!

jerseyangel Proficient
jerseyangel
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Hi Judy :D Yep--I'm so glad to still be in touch with Vincent. I'll bet his ears are burning right about now. :lol:

I saw Evie post over there just within the last couple of days. She's a sweetie.

I hope Rachel feels comfortable enough to post here again soon. Somehow, this place is just not the same without our fearless President :) I always thought of her as the glue :) But not glue made with wheat :lol:

Andrea--nice to see you "hooked up" again :P How is Talitha doing? How is mom doing?? :D

Funny (in a heartwarming way) how we have such a community--not only the people here in the moment, but we are able to still keep in touch with those who aren't around so much anymore.

Which reminds me, I really need to email Julie :o

I'm actually doing better in the food sensitivity area. I now eat rice a few times a week and corn (in the form of homemade organic popcorn) once in a while. The others haven't changed, and I still avoid them.

As I found out recently, with the sunscreen and a trial of Lay's chips, I'm still as sensitive to tiny amounts of gluten as I ever was. I must stop challenging that and stick to whole, natural foods. B)

Oh, I had my stress-echocardiogram on Friday and although my heart is fine (thank goodness), it dosen't slow down enough after exercise. The cardiologist said that he wants to try me on a med that will slow it down a bit, and will also help with my anxiety (it's not an antidepressant). I see my internest soon, and he'll be the one to actually prescribe it. I'm excited at the thought of having some help with the anxiety and palpitations.

AndreaB Contributor
AndreaB
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I'll just say that I wouldn't have tried ART if it wasn't for people on this thread doing it (you know who you are). I have always been worried about my mercury amalgams and wasn't going to remove them until I had objective information that I shouldn't have them in. Both the hair analysis test and the DMPS test don't seem valid to me with amalgams in. Even though I think my ART lady does have an agenda with mercury removal, the fact that it didn't test well for me AND that mercury is a highly toxic substance convinced me that I shouldn't have it in my mouth during pregnancy. I'm really not doing this for me. I'm doing it for my future child!

I think you have a good plan in place. :) I wish I had known a lot of these things before I had my children.

AndreaB Contributor
AndreaB
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I hope Rachel feels comfortable enough to post here again soon. Somehow, this place is just not the same without our fearless President :)

I hope so too.

Andrea--nice to see you "hooked up" again :P How is Talitha doing? How is mom doing?? :D

She's doing ok. She's complaining about extra moisture in her mouth today. She doesn't like to get wet at all, except in the bath tub or sprinkler/pool. I think she's starting to develop allergies. Grass is extremely high today as will be the temperature. I'm doing ok right now aside from allergies.

Funny (in a heartwarming way) how we have such a community--not only the people here in the moment, but we are able to still keep in touch with those who aren't around so much anymore.

Yep, I'd still keep in touch. Just not as convenient as here and probably wouldn't be as frequent.

I'm actually doing better in the food sensitivity area. I now eat rice a few times a week and corn (in the form of homemade organic popcorn) once in a while. The others haven't changed, and I still avoid them.

Yay! :D

The cardiologist said that he wants to try me on a med that will slow it down a bit, and will also help with my anxiety (it's not an antidepressant). I see my internest soon, and he'll be the one to actually prescribe it. I'm excited at the thought of having some help with the anxiety and palpitations.

I'm glad you'll be getting this. I'm hoping it will help you with the stress/anxiety of moving and everything involved in that.

tom Contributor
tom
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Tom- so sorry about your brother. I read his CaringBridge website--sounded like a great guy. You guys grew up in Mt. Prospect? I grew up not far from you--in Glencoe, before it was so posh. I couldn't afford to buy a doghouse there now, but when I grew up, it was fairly rural.

Thank you.

And . . ... .. . . Glencoe!!?

Wow I worked in neighboring Northbrook for a couple years, at Underwriters Labs!

Bet you've driven past that more than a few times.

And hehe the pre-posh comment tells me a great deal about your age, doesn't it?

Are u still in Chicagoland? Outdoor stage reminds me of Ravinia!

(If I weren't "surfs w/ phone" guy I'd be at your profile now)

***POSSIBLE LYMIFICATION FAILURE??*** (not all though)

To throw back to a recent topic, it was there (Underwriters Labs, aka UL) that I gained the majority of my knowledge of the galvanic reaction.

Many many MANY times a day, its application was integral to the work.

My main function, until a late tie-wearing (ugh!!) promotion, was doing the lab work to find whether lamps (lighting fixtures to them - the 'lamp' was the light bulb. I never got why) had a fire hazard.

We'd get a sample of a new lamp design and determine where to put the temp-measuring thermocouples (just 2 diff wires connected at point of measurement), then solder 'em all in and crank up the voltage (150-200 for a rated 110V lamp) and see how hot it all got.

Not exactly the high-tech of my post-collegiate silicon valley days LOL, but that's how it's done.

I'd tell the company what # they had to put on that "RISK OF FIRE - MAX 100 Watt bulb" sticker. <oooooo the power!!> :lol:

Aaaaannnnyhoo, the thermocouple uses only the characteristics of the galvanic reaction, and the direct (math-wise) relationship betw 'voltage created'[EDIT: ahh 'voltage change' is better] and 'change in temperature'. <phew> (can't see a way to lymify)

I think we used copper & nickel or a copper-nickel alloy w/ some other metal in the other wire.

Hmmmmm maybe too long for an off-topic background story. Or it just seems extra long on a screen w/ 12 lines and only 4-8 words per line. (Scroll city bay-beeeee!!)

CarlaB Enthusiast
CarlaB
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DingoGirl Enthusiast
DingoGirl
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:unsure:

oh dear.....oh dear.....I go away for five days and come back to find......fighting and tension in Rachelville.......Susie doesn't like it! :(

And Rachel.....she needs to come back!

This IS a good place. No matter what happens, it's a magic, amazing, supportive and loving place, with all kinds of info that of COURSE upon which we will not all agree. Duh.

But it's a mouse-click away to love and support. We have NOT lost that lovin' feeling, dear ones. :)

Big, Giant, GROUP HUG.

:wub::wub::wub:

And where is Rinne? haven't seen her lately......

oh BTW - - had five days in Carmel over the 4th, did a whole lotta nothing, back is much better, but I can't stand beign an invalid forever........doctor still doesn't know where to send me, and I am still on hold, MRI revealed no less than SIX discs horribly ruined/compromised/bulging/herniated nerves pinched and and on and on. did I mention this already? :ph34r:

Love to all.

Rachel, come back.

xoxo

Fiddle-Faddle Community Regular
Fiddle-Faddle
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Thank you.

And . . ... .. . . Glencoe!!?

Wow I worked in neighboring Northbrook for a couple years, at Underwriters Labs!

Bet you've driven past that more than a few times.

And hehe the pre-posh comment tells me a great deal about your age, doesn't it?

Are u still in Chicagoland? Outdoor stage reminds me of Ravinia!

(If I weren't "surfs w/ phone" guy I'd be at your profile now)

Yep, Glencoe didn't get posh til at least the 80's,except for East of the railroad tracks--but we lived on the other side of the tracks (the wrong side of the tracks?).

Naah, I'm in Pittsburgh now, but spent many summers at Ravinia. Don't miss the traffic one bit, but still miss Lake Michigan.

Isn't UL right on the Edens?

jerseyangel Proficient
jerseyangel
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Hi Susie :D

Andrea--Grass allergy is heinous! I have it and every year from mid-June through July I'm sick. I have sinus problems, headache and odd dizziness. This year, the Claritin really didn't help much, so I'm doing nasal irrigation and that's it. That seems to help.

The stopped up ear is about to drive me insane :P I need a roto rooter :lol:

Poor Talitha--sorry she's uncomfortable. :(

Judyin Philly Enthusiast
Judyin Philly
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AH SHUCKS, IT DIDN'T WORK :blink:

Thanks Donna..you and patti taught me how to do it.

now i wanted to do 2 things from patti's post and don't have this part yet.. :ph34r:

'jerseyangel' date='Jul 10 2007, 01:21 PM' post='323895']

I hope Rachel feels comfortable enough to post here again soon. Somehow, this place is just not the same without our fearless President :) I always thought of her as the glue :) But not glue made with wheat :lol:

DTTO PATTI...I PRAY SO TOO....SHE IS OUR GLUE...NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT!

Oh, I had my stress-echocardiogram on Friday and although my heart is fine (thank goodness), it dosen't slow down enough after exercise. . I'm excited at the thought of having some help with the anxiety and palpitations.

PATTI GREAT NEWS OF THE HEART. NO WITH THE MOVE COMING UP I HOPE YOU CAN GET SOME MEDS TOO. WHEN IS YOUR APT WITH YOU GP.?

AndreaB Contributor
AndreaB
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Big, Giant, GROUP HUG.

:wub::wub::wub:

I'll join in!

Rinne hasn't posted recently. Don't know if she's busy or not very happy about the tension as of late. :(

The stopped up ear is about to drive me insane :P I need a roto rooter :lol:

I hear you. My ears are bad all the time.

AH SHUCKS, IT DIDN'T WORK :blink:

WELL WE'LL SEE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE :blink: . JUDY

You snuck in an edit! :rolleyes:

Still looks fine as you color your words differently. Very easy to read. :)

jerseyangel Proficient
jerseyangel
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Hey Judy--you did good! :D

The appt is the 17th--I think....Actually, the move dosen't worry me too much--we've been through this several times before. At least now the boys are grown and we don't have to worry about the school year and all that stuff.

We're really not in a hurry either because Mark's commute isn't too bad--just about an hour each way. We haven't even listed our house yet :ph34r:

AndreaB Contributor
AndreaB
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Susan,

I do hope you get some answers and direction soon for your back.

jerseyangel Proficient
jerseyangel
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Susan,

I do hope you get some answers and direction soon for your back.

Me too! :)

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      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

      By catnapt · Posted

      thank you so much for your detailed and extremely helpful reply!! I can say with absolute certainty that the less gluten containing products I've eaten over the past several years, the better I've felt.   I wasn't avoiding gluten, I was avoiding refined grains (and most processed foods) as well as anything that made me feel bad when I ate it. It's the same reason I gave up dairy and eggs- they make me feel ill.  I do have a bit of a sugar addiction lol so a lot of times I wasn't sure if it was the refined grains that I was eating - or the sugar. So from time to time I might have a cookie or something but I've learned how to make wonderful cookies and golden brownies with BEANS!! and no refined sugar - I use date paste instead. Pizza made me so ill- but I thought it was probably the cheese. I gave up pizza and haven't missed it. the one time I tried a slice I felt so bad I knew I'd never touch it again. I stopped eating wheat pasta at least 3 yrs ago- just didn't feel well after eating it. I tried chick pea pasta and a few others and discovered I like the brown rice pasta. I still don't eat a lot of pasta but it's nice for a change when I want something easy. TBH over the years I've wondered sometimes if I might be gluten intolerant but really believed it was not possible for me to have celiac disease. NOW I need to know for sure- because I'm in the middle of a long process of trying to find out why I have a high parathyroid level (NOT the thyroid- but rather the 4 glands that control the calcium balance in your body) I have had a hard time getting my vit D level up, my serum calcium has run on the low side of normal for many years... and now I am losing calcium from my bones and excreting it in my urine (some sort of renal calcium leak) Also have a high ALP since 2014. And now rapidly worsening bone density.  I still do not have a firm diagnosis. Could be secondary HPT (but secondary to what? we need to know) It could be early primary HPT. I am spilling calcium in my urine but is that caused by the high parathyroid hormone or is it the reason my PTH is high>? there are multiple feedback loops for this condition.    so I will keep eating the bread and some wheat germ that does not seem to bother me too much (it hasn't got enough gluten to use just wheat germ)    but I'm curious- if you don't have a strong reaction to a product- like me and wheat germ- does that mean it's ok to eat or is it still causing harm even if you don't have any obvious symptoms? I guess what you are saying about silent celiac makes it likely that you can have no symptoms and still have the harm... but geez! you'd think they'd come up with a way to test for this that didn't require you to consume something that makes you sick! I worry about the complications I've been reading about- different kinds of cancers etc. also wondering- are there degrees of celiac disease?  is there any correlation between symptoms and the amnt of damage to your intestines? I also need a firm diagnosis because I have an identical twin sister ... so if I have celiac, she has it too- or at least the genetic make up for having it. I did have a VERY major stress to my body in 2014-2016 time frame .. lost 50lbs in a short period of time and had severe symptoms from acute protracted withdrawal off an SSRI drug (that I'd been given an unethically high dose of, by a dr who has since lost his license)  Going off the drug was a good thing and in many ways my health improved dramatically- just losing 50lbs was helpful but I also went  off almost a dozen different medications, totally changed my diet and have been doing pretty well except for the past 3-4 yrs when the symptoms related to the parathyroid issue cropped up. It is likely that I had low vit D for some time and that caused me a lot of symptoms. The endo now tells me that low vit D can be caused by celiac disease so I need to know for sure! thank you for all that great and useful information!!! 
    • trents
      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

      By trents · Posted

      Welcome, @catnapt! The most recent guidelines are the daily consumption of a minimum of 10g of gluten (about the amount found in 4-6 slices of wheat bread) for a minimum of two weeks. But if possible stretching that out even more would enhance the chances of getting valid test results. These guidelines are for those who have been eating gluten free for a significant amount of time. It's called the "gluten challenge".  Yes, you can develop celiac disease at any stage of life. There is a genetic component but also a stress trigger that is needed to activate the celiac genes. About 30-40% of the general population possesses the genetic potential to develop celiac disease but only about 1% of the general population actually develop celiac disease. For most with the potential, the triggering stress event doesn't happen. It can be many things but often it is a viral infection. Having said that, it is also the case that many, many people who eventually are diagnosed with celiac disease probably experienced the actual onset years before. Many celiacs are of the "silent" type, meaning that symptoms are largely missing or very minor and get overlooked until damage to the small bowel lining becomes advanced or they develop iron deficiency anemia or some other medical problem associated with celiac disease. Many, many are never diagnosed or are diagnosed later in life because they did not experience classic symptoms. And many physicians are only looking for classic symptoms. We now know that there are over 200 symptoms/medical problems associated with celiac disease but many docs are only looking for things like boating, gas, diarrhea. I certainly understand your concerns about not wanting to damage your body by taking on a gluten challenge. Your other option is to totally commit to gluten free eating and see if your symptoms improve. It can take two years or more for complete healing of the small bowel lining once going gluten free but usually people experience significant improvement well before then. If their is significant improvement in your symptoms when going seriously gluten free, then you likely have your answer. You would either have celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity).
    • catnapt
      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

      By catnapt · Posted

      after several years of issues with a para-gland issue, my endo has decided it's a good idea for me to be tested for celiac disease. I am 70 yrs old and stunned to learn that you can get celiac this late in life. I have just gradually stopped eating most foods that contain gluten over the past several years- they just make me feel ill- although I attributed it to other things like bread spiking blood sugar- or to the things I ate *with* the bread or crackers etc   I went to a party in Nov and ate a LOT of a vegan roast made with vital wheat gluten- as well as stuffing, rolls and pie crust... and OMG I was so sick! the pain, the bloating, the gas, the nausea... I didn't think it would ever end (but it did) and I was ready to go the ER but it finally subsided.   I mentioned this to my endo and now she wants me to be tested for celiac after 2 weeks of being on gluten foods. She has kind of flip flopped on how much gluten I should eat, telling me that if the symptoms are severe I can stop. I am eating 2-3 thin slices of bread per day (or english muffins) and wow- it does make me feel awful. But not as bad as when I ate that massive amnt of vital wheat gluten. so I will continue on if I have to... but what bothers me is - if it IS celiac, it seems stupid for lack of a better word, to intentionally cause more damage to my body... but I am also worried, on the other hand, that this is not a long enough challenge to make the blood work results valid.   can you give me any insight into this please?   thank you
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