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My enterolab results showed that i cannot tolerate casein. My question is.........does that mean it is okay for me to take a whey protein supplement (NOW Brand). It is Gluten free, sugar free, and soy free. What are the major foods that contain casein. Can i never have chocolate? Thanks


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The protein in whey is lactalbumin (casein is the curd), but the CC risk is pretty high.

I eat chocolate with "may contain traces of milk" warnings every once in awhile. My main casein symptom is a horrible acne break out and upscale dark chocolate doesn't break me out.

I could take or leave chocolate. It's cheese I really miss. I read a study out of Europe where two years on a casein free diet cured the casein intolerance (not so for gluten - same study). I'm going to eventually do a dairy challenge and see what happens. I know Dr. Fine would disagree with that decision, though!

holdthegluten Rising Star
The protein in whey is lactalbumin (casein is the curd), but the CC risk is pretty high.

I eat chocolate with "may contain traces of milk" warnings every once in awhile. My main casein symptom is a horrible acne break out and upscale dark chocolate doesn't break me out.

I could take or leave chocolate. It's cheese I really miss. I read a study out of Europe where two years on a casein free diet cured the casein intolerance (not so for gluten - same study). I'm going to eventually do a dairy challenge and see what happens. I know Dr. Fine would disagree with that decision, though!

Would a gluten free whey protein powder be okay then, since it isnt casein, or is the CC gonna get me?

confusedks Enthusiast

Casein is a name for all forms of dairy. Whey IS a form of dairy so you shouldn't have it if you're casein free.

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zarfkitty Explorer
Would a gluten free whey protein powder be okay then, since it isnt casein, or is the CC gonna get me?

My advice is to go off dairy completely (including whey) for awhile before you try something like that. Then you'll know if you are reacting to it. You won't be casein-free if you eat whey. You'd be more like casein-lite.

jnclelland Contributor
I read a study out of Europe where two years on a casein free diet cured the casein intolerance (not so for gluten - same study). I'm going to eventually do a dairy challenge and see what happens. I know Dr. Fine would disagree with that decision, though!

Oooh, I'd love to see that study! Do you have a reference for it? I've been Gluten-free Casein-free for almost 2 years and recently took a trip to France where I decided, heck with it, I'm eating French cheese! And much to my surprise, I didn't get the skin reaction that casein has always given me in the past. I still had some VERY minor stomach issues that I suspect were due to lactose (mainly because they were stronger for actual milk than for cheese) and I'm back to CF for the time being, but this experience made me wonder if I might be able to add some small amounts of dairy to my diet eventually.

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