Jump to content
This site uses cookies. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. More Info... ×
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Dairy Free Scd -- Is It Possible?


Greeneyes4950

Recommended Posts

Greeneyes4950 Apprentice

Lately i've been wondering if going on the SCD may help allivate some of my weird bowel issues lately-- such as incomplete digestion. I'm already GFCFSF

I just got the book, Breaking the vicious cycle from the library and the "yogurt making" seems to be a big part of SCD.

The problem is that I can't have dairy -- Casein intolerance. So how am i supposed to make the yogurt?

I read on other website that you can make yogurt out of basically anything, i was thinking coconut milk.

Has anyone else done/doing a dairy free SCD -- any suggestions on that or yogurt making would be of great help! Thanks :)


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



feelingbetter Rookie

Hi- I have been doing the SCD dairy free for the past 4 months. I feel soooo much better. I don't eat any type of yogurt but I do take a dairy free probiotic.

Good Luck!

MySuicidalTurtle Enthusiast

I believe to make yogurt you have to start with a little bit of yogurt (to get the cultures). You could use a soy based one. I eat soy yogurt from time to time that is gluten, casein, and dairy-free and buy it at either Kroger or a health food store.

pele Rookie
Lately i've been wondering if going on the SCD may help allivate some of my weird bowel issues lately-- such as incomplete digestion. I'm already GFCFSF

I just got the book, Breaking the vicious cycle from the library and the "yogurt making" seems to be a big part of SCD.

The problem is that I can't have dairy -- Casein intolerance. So how am i supposed to make the yogurt?

I read on other website that you can make yogurt out of basically anything, i was thinking coconut milk.

Has anyone else done/doing a dairy free SCD -- any suggestions on that or yogurt making would be of great help! Thanks :)

I am also on a dairy free SCD. I started off with the SCD in early April still eating dairy, but the SCD helped me figure out that I am casein intolerant. I also take probiotics, not always the same kind, and drink kombucha now and then.

Coconut milk is recomended only in small amounts after you have been on the diet for a while, so don't go overboard with it.

In my non-scientific opinion, it is better to do the diet without dairy than to not do it at all (and stay on grain and processed food).

The first couple of weeks on the diet are the toughest, but were well worth it for me. Good luck!

ShayFL Enthusiast

I make yogurt with homemade almond milk. A cup of raw almond whirled in my Vita-Mix with water for 10 minutes which gets it the perfect temp to add the starter (GI Pro). I bought a yogurt maker wit 8 serving size cups. It works great!

lizard00 Enthusiast

I've not tried the SCD, but I also haven't pushed it out of thought yet... I try not to do dairy either. I tried some coconut milk yogurt and it was SOOOO good.

Personally, coconut milk soothes my stomach.

AliB Enthusiast

I have been gluten and dairy free since the end of Jan and on SCD since May and am gradually recovering. I know I am lactose intolerant, but may also be casein intolerant as I don't cope with most dairy. However, I have been making the SCD milk-based 24 hour yogurt most of the way through, and seem to be able to cope with that ok.

It seems that not only is most, if not all of the lactose digested by the bacteria, but the process changes the casein structure, making it more easily metabolised, too.

Just out of interest I was looking for more info on the yogurt and came across a couple threads on different sites that mentioned products like Activia. Although it undoubtedly tastes nice, it contains sugar which is extremely counter-productive as sugar feeds the very bacteria we are trying to replace with the good. Can't see the point of them, myself. They are very over-priced and very over-hyped.

It's surprising how nice the SCD yogurt is, made with whole milk and the addition of a good handful of blueberries and other tolerated fruit give all the sweetness we need plus extra nutrients. If it is dripped, it is even creamier and I have made it with the addition of some cream too, which I would normally not be able to cope with at all, but is fine in the yogurt.

Just a note - I have been having coconut milk in drinks, but read the other day that it has been implicated in high cholesterol. Apparently, fresh coconut is ok, but with tinned, some is processed in such a way that it turns it into a hydrogenated product. It is very annoying as I can't have rice milk because of the high carb content and gluten contamination, oat milk may or may not be gluten contaminated, almond milk is very expensive and difficult to find and, apart from the fact that the stuff is bad news, I can't tolerate soy milk.

I've bought a couple coconuts and have little choice but to try and make my own. Anyone made it successfully?


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



nora-n Rookie

I just ran across a casein free SCD webpage. I have not read it, though. Open Original Shared Link

About the coconut milk, I do not know, but maybe one of the nomilk pages has some info? paleodiet pages are around somewhere, and Don Wiss has several milk-and grain-free pages somewhere on the web. Open Original Shared Link

yes, he has coconut recipes Open Original Shared Link

nora

AliB Enthusiast
I just ran across a casein free SCD webpage. I have not read it, though. Open Original Shared Link

About the coconut milk, I do not know, but maybe one of the nomilk pages has some info? paleodiet pages are around somewhere, and Don Wiss has several milk-and grain-free pages somewhere on the web. Open Original Shared Link

yes, he has coconut recipes Open Original Shared Link

nora

I have Natasha Campbell-McBride's 'Gut and Psychology Syndrome' book - it's my health Bible at the moment. thanks for the link to that website Nora, it looks interesting, I shall have a good parouse of that and the other links.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      130,193
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    ChrissiG
    Newest Member
    ChrissiG
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.3k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • knitty kitty
      Hi, @thejayland10, Do you still consume dairy?  Dairy can cause increased tTg IgA levels in some people with celiac disease who react to casein, the protein in dairy, just like to gluten.   You might try cutting out the processed gluten free foods.  Try a whole foods, no carbohydrate Paleo diet instead, like the AIP diet (the Autoimmune Protocol Diet by Dr. Sarah Ballantyne, a Celiac herself). Processed gluten free foods can be full of excess carbohydrates which can alter your microbiome leading to Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO).  SIBO is found in some people who are not responding to a gluten free diet.  SIBO can elevate tTg IgA levels.  The AIP diet cuts out sources of carbohydrates like rice, potatoes (nightshades), quinoa, peas, lentils, legumes, which starves out the SIBO bacteria.  Better bacteria can then proliferate.   I followed the AIP diet to get rid of my SIBO.  It's a strict diet, but my digestive tract had time to rest and heal.  I started feeling better within a few days.  Feeling improvement so soon made sticking to the AIP diet much easier. References: Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth among patients with celiac disease unresponsive to a gluten free diet https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7759221/   Luminal antigliadin antibodies in small intestinal bacterial overgrowth https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9260801/#:~:text=Luminal total IgA concentrations (p,response to local bacterial antigens.   Potato glycoalkaloids adversely affect intestinal permeability and aggravate inflammatory bowel disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12479649/
    • trents
      First, welcome to the forum, @boy-wonder! Second, a little clarification in terminology is in order. Granted, inconsistency is rampant when it comes to the terminology associated with gluten disorders, but it has more or less become settled in this fashion: "Gluten intolerance" is a general term that car refer to either celiac disease or NCGS (Non Celiac Gluten Sensitivity). "Gluten Sensitivity" is the shortened version of NCGS. Third, Celiac disease is not an allergy to gluten. It is an autoimmune disorder characterized by gluten ingestion causing the immunes system to attack the lining of the small bowel, causing damage to it over time due to the constant inflammation that wears down the "villi" (mucosal finger-like projections that make up the lining). Over a significant period of time as gluten continues to be consumed, this generally results in impaired nutrient absorption. There are specific blood antibody tests available to check for celiac disease but the testing will not be valid while on a reduced gluten diet or a gluten free diet. Those already having having begun a gluten free diet must go back to consuming generous amounts of gluten for a period of weeks if they wish to pursue testing for celiac disease. Fourth, NCGS shares many of the same symptoms of celiac disease but does not damage the lining of the small bowel as does celiac disease. There is no test for it. A diagnosis for NCGS depends on first ruling out celiac disease. It is 10x more common than celiac disease. Some experts feel it can be a precursor to the development of celiac disease. Eliminating gluten from your life is the antidote for both. Fifth, you state that you are convince you don't have celiac disease by are just "gluten intolerant" (aka, gluten sensitive). How do you know that? It seems to me you are making a dangerous assumption here. I suggest you consider getting formally tested for celiac disease.
    • AllyJR
      Has anyone found a gluten free parakeet seed mix? I can't find a single one! My doctor wants me to make sure all pet food in the house is gluten free but I'm not sure if that's even possible with parakeets. We love our birds so much! I'm wondering if anyone has ever made their own bird seed mix if gluten free ones are not available. 
    • boy-wonder
      Hi, new member. About me, I had been suffering with weight gain, bloating and irregular and extreme bowel habits for a year or so. For example, I went on holiday in 2023, then again I  2024 at the same time of year and every shirt I wore in 2023 didn't fit anymore, couldn't even do the buttons up. Being in my mid 50s I put it down to age and middle aged spread. I'd been lucky all my life having good metabolism and being able to eat anything and as much as I like without putting on any weight, it drove my other half mad. Over a conversation with a friend health and age Related stuff came up and he mentioned someone he knew who had recently found out they were gluten intolerant,  I looked it up and had every one of 8 or so symptoms listed. Bloating,  weight gain,  headaches, brain fog,  constipation, etc etc. I took the decision to give going gluten free a try. Within 1 week I had lost 4 lb, now 7 weeks in I've lost 13 lb. I feel much better in general,  the bloating has severely subsided, it used to keep me awake at night as I felt so uncomfortable.  So pretty much a success story, as everyone here knows,  going gluten free isn't always easy, and eating out can be awkward,  but I consider myself lucky that I appear to have an intolerance rather than an allergy or being celiac.  I can deal with most of the gluten free options at the supermarket but, the big one for me is bread, I love bread, and the gluten free options I've tried are pretty poor. I was at a posh black tie event last night and chose all the food options I thought would be gluten free,  however,  there was bread on the table and I couldn't resist it, I had I small piece of bread,  god it was good, I wanted more but I resisted. Today I feel a bit dodgy, my stomach is churning, and I generally feel a bit urgh.  So here's the question, is that really down to 1 small piece of bread or is it coincidence?  I'd be interested in hearing how other people have reacted to a similar situation,  as I was considering having a day off every now and then and enjoying some lovely fresh bread.
    • ValerieC
      Does anybody know of a guide that ranks reevaluates universities and colleges in terms of their accommodation of celiac disease or food allergies?   Thanks in advance for any leads! Valerie 
×
×
  • Create New...