For Dq1 And Dq3 (have Both Genes) - What Foods Are You Certain Bother You?

[ShayFL]

I am curious for those who have both DQ1 and DQ3 what your confirmed intolerances are? Looking for correlations. I am DQ1 subtype 6 and DQ3 subtype 7. I dont know if the subtypes make a difference. But if you have my exact genetic make-up, I am curious what foods bother you.

For me so far the ones I know for CERTAIN bother me:

Gluten

Legumes - beans - peanuts - soy

Citrus

Nightshades

Apples

**The above foods produce a consistent set of symptoms within 24 hours of ingestion. Some within hours.

Then there are foods that I am not 100% certain because it isnt consistent:

Most dairy - only eat 24 hour fermented goat yogurt where all of the lactose and casein is broken down

Eggs

Rice

Corn

Pork

You?

[lbd]

I am DQ1 subtype 6 (0604). I have DQ2 as the other (0202). I did find some info the other day that links HLA-DQB1 0604 with DQA1 0102.

As far as food intolerances go:

gluten (duh)

dairy (casein, not lactose)

maybe:

peanuts (give me a stomachache)

beans/soy (the usual problems though not pre-gluten-free and sometimes migraine)

nitrites (migraine - non-nitrite hotdogs and sausage are fine)

maybe onions (digestive blah feeling)

apples are very constipating

Thank goodness nightshades are not a problem for me.

That seems to be it. When I cut out most of the dairy, that stopped 99.9% of the remaining migraines (most left with the gluten). The only thing I am definite about excluding is gluten and most dairy.

Laurie

[ShayFL]

Anyone with DQ1 and DQ3???

[Rachel--24]

Hi Shay.....I have DQ1 and DQ3.

I'm sensitive to everything....and I'm intolerant to nothing.

OK.....I know that doesnt sound right but its true for me. In my case I have focused more on my body's inability to break down and eliminate the natural chemicals in foods.

Even though it seems like I'm reactive to ALOT of foods...I'm actually unable to detox these chemicals efficiently...so they accumulate rapidly and cause inflammation and various symptoms.

I avoid amines, salicylates, glutamates, high sulfur foods....and of course the synthetic chemicals as well.

Its impossible for me to avoid everything 100% since all foods contain these things....but I dont eat the ones with significant amount of anything...I try to keep them from accumulating to the point that I'm having bad reactions. Its difficult to do because my threshold is very low....but I manage.

I dont consider my reactions to be "allergic" type reactions (although they can seem that way)....but its more of a metabolic problem...with enzymes not functioning properly and impaired detoxification.

I'm not a big fan of food intolerance testing but I have had the ELISA IgG (about 130 foods). This was quite awhile ago and all I knew at that time was that I was reactive to everything but not with any type of consistency. Sometimes I'd eat something without having any reaction....and another time the same food would cause immediate reaction. It was nothing I could figure out easily (as far as identifying specific foods)...even with the strictest of elimination diets.

Anyways my test was almost totally clean.....I had a handful of reactive foods (mostly spices + banana and alfalfa).....but all were considered to be VL (very low). I didnt have a single strong positive for any food.

Since then I found my answers by investigating the food chemicals. Alot of people have issues with them....but mine are pretty severe as far as how impaired my ability to process them is.

From what I've noticed as far as other members who have these genes....and especially DQ1....is that most have multiple food sensitivities. I know that I've had at least one thread about the genes....I do know there was one about DQ1....I think I was asking if anyone had gotten better from the gluten-free diet alone. I believe that everyone who had responded had many intolerances after gluten....and many of us had some similar issues/symptoms as well.

I cant remember exactly and dont have time to get the link right now (lunch break is about over) but you can search my topics if you're interested.

I have problems with most of the foods on your list but I look at it a bit differently.....so for my issues with citrus foods its more related to the fact that they are high in amines and most are high in salicylates as well. Apples are high in salicylates. Soy is high in several things (this is one that I avoid completely).

Anyways, you get the point and I know that you're familiar with the food chemicals already.

P.S. I also do not have any true allergies. No IgE reactions whatsoever.

[ShayFL]

I dont have any "true" allergies either except a very low reaction to dust mites. Who doesnt?.....LOL

I tried a low salicylic acid diet once. The book claimed that if you didnt respond to this strict elimination diet, that food wasnt your problem. I didnt feel any different on it.

I have done ELISA off and on over the years and finally decided they were worthless.

Im always curious about others......

[RollingAlong]

What book was that, please?

[ShayFL]

I checked my bookshelves and I couldnt find it. It was a very thin book (less than 1/2 inch) and was red and said in white "food allergies" on the front. I got it at the health food store. But this might help :

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[climbmtwhitney]

Hi Shay,

My daughter and I are DQ1 (sub 5), DQ3 (sub 7). We also have the alpha portion of DQ2 (Celiac gene).

Other than gluten here's our intolerances:

Me

Dairy, soy, cranberries Dx. Plus I know corn & peas too. I'm still trying to figure what the heck else. I'm SO sensitive -- debating the Specific Carb Diet. Of all my intolerances, soy hits me the fastest, within a couple of hours.

Daughter

Dairy, soy, cranberries, yeast, eggs -- all Dx

Are you feeling bad again? I thought you were doing well from your other posts. Hope you ARE feeling good!

Sonya

[ShayFL]

Im not feelin bad. Just curious about this.

I did try to "add" back a few things and I paid. But I'm over it now. You wont hear me complain often. I just deal!

But today I feel pretty darn good.

Interesting about cranberries....I've just never liked them.

I've known about SOY for about 13 years. Everytime over the years I tried to add it back....it let me know NOT!!!

Peanuts and Corn have been on my avoid list for many many years also. I tried to re-introduce corn just recently and it didnt seem to bother me too much, but what I found was that I "craved" it non-stop. Like would wake up in the morning and think of what corny thing I could eat for breakfast, snack, lunch, dinner. And I would gorge on it.......Can you say ADDICTIVE? So I nixed the corn FOR GOOD!!

Legumes I think I can eat once in a blue moon and not suffer. But I dont really miss the beans all that much.

I have discovered some other "starchy" foods that I tolerate well if I just want some....like "Malanga". Like potatoes but not a nightshade. And sweet potatoes.

[KPanther]

Hi! I just received my Enterolab results last night, and your forum really helped! I'm trying to determine a little more info about the gene results. The results stated:

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0302

HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0602

Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 3,1 (Subtype 8,6)

Does this mean I am DQ1 and DQ3? I'm not sure what "category" I fit into!

I'm really glad that everyone contributed (ShayFL, Ibd, Rachel-24 & climbmtwhitney) to this forum. When I read the forum last night after receiving my results, I was SO GLAD to find other people out there "like me" in the same boat. I have felt very alone in this for a while, and not understood by others (except my husband). I have learned to keep my gluten intolerant/celiac issues to myself since people aren't very sympathetic (at least the people I work with!).

Can anybody answer these questions:

Am I DQ1 and DQ3? (My full gene "reading" is listed above)

What do the Subtypes 8,6 mean?

Do the gene "categories" usually mean you are more prone to be sensitive to certain foods (like nightshades, legumes, etc)? I currently eat green and red peppers, beans (baked beans, chili beans...), soy, nuts....could I be predisposed to be sensitive to these foods?