Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

What To Do Now?


angelschick

Recommended Posts

angelschick Apprentice

Long story short I went gluten-free about 4 weeks ago with some improvements right away then symptoms returned a tad. I began to think the week of no pain was a fluke but toughed it out and had my cholesterol tested after being gluten-free for 3 weeks and 3 days. Heres the results -

WAS IS

Total cholesterol 83 110

Triglycerides 49 200

The other numbers increased slightly also. First time I had my cholesterol tested(6 years ago) the total was 96 and its never been higher, until I went gluten-free. So, my guess is easily celiac for sure since the only change was going gluten-free. After having a mourning period last night now I must decide how to proceed. Once I had the cholesterol test done, I went off gluten-free, honestly hoping/thinking it wasn't celiac. Three days into eating wheat my symptoms are back full force, my GI ones plus some!! So I get I have to do this - I read how it progresses and scared myself enough to bite the bullet again. But hubby and I have some concerns.

Doc tested EMA which was negative. Should I get the biopsy done? My questions are many....

Do I need the biopsy to see healing later on?

If the Doc won't DX me on symptoms and blood work alone, will this haunt me down the road with other care providers, hospital stays, etc..?

Does the biopsy show other damage besides loss of villi?

Do I need to followed to track possible side effects from having celiac and being mis-diagnosed for so long now?

How can celiac make me malabsorb fat yet my vitamins and such are all ok - Vit D, calcium, iron etc so common with celiac are all fine.

Thanks

Amy


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



dilettantesteph Collaborator

At this point the GI's agree that the only way to diagnose celiac is with a positive biopsy. No one can prevent you from not eating gluten though. It might be helpful to know a definite diagnosis. That way when you have problems with the diet you can be a bit more sure of yourself. There also might be other causes for your condition that you could miss without a proper diagnosis. I don't think that cholesterol tests mean much with regards to celiac. You need to get a celiac panel.

Lisa Mentor

I do not think that there is a connection between high cholesterol and celiac diseasse. There may be a connection with a distressed liver.

Gluten free processed food a often high in fat and can effect your cholesterol levels.

What is your history of testing regarding Celiac If you have not already done so, a Celiac Panel with a return to the gltuen free diet, might render a diagnosis. An endoscopy/biopsy exam can indicate Celiac, but it can also look for other concerns.

If you are in pain or symptomatic, I would encourage your to pursue testing.

angelschick Apprentice

Maybe I am misunderstanding things or I wasn't clear in my post. One of the main reasons I even suspected celiac disease was because of my freakishly LOW cholesterol. No Doc could explain it and I don't lead the lifestyle to support such low numbers. In the few weeks I was gluten-free, that was the only thing that changed in my lifestyle and it brought my cholesterol up which I am assuming means I was not absorbing cholesterol while eating wheat.

Amy

ShayFL Enthusiast

I see where you are coming from Amy. Mine used to be low too. If something prevents you from processing and digesting fats then it will be low. Gluten can do this, but so can other things.

The fact that you improved symptom wise on a gluten-free diet is MORE telling.

You can start noshing on tons of gluten for the next 3 months and get a FULL celiac panel run plus biopsy for a gold standard Dx. Or you can eat gluten-free and never look back. Some use Enterolab to test for gluten intolerance (doesnt Dx Celiac). You can get the genetic test too either through your Doctor or Enterolab. That would just be another piece to the puzzle (still no Dx).

You have options. Do what feels right for you.

Mother of Jibril Enthusiast
WAS IS

Total cholesterol 83 110

Triglycerides 49 200

Congratulations on the increase! :) I know your cholesterol levels were extremely low (too low)... it's amazing how fast your labs can change when you change your diet.

I agree that this one result does not rule celiac in or out. For that you need other tests. BUT... you did have a positive response to the diet. Why not stick with it? Do you really need a diagnosis? In my personal experience... whether you have a diagnosis or not, YOU are the one that needs to stay on top of any new symptoms and get them checked out. A good doctor might suggest some other tests (like a bone scan), but I've never had a good doctor <_<

Some people are diagnosed with a biopsy alone. If that appeals to you, try to have it done as soon as possible because a gluten-free diet starts the healing process.

Lisa Mentor

https://www.celiac.com/gluten-free/lofivers....php/t8494.html

Here is another thread regarding low cholesterol. It's a bit dated (2005), but the information may be somewhat current.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Nancym Enthusiast

High triglycerides are often connected with blood sugar being high. If you're eating a lot of starchy or sweet things, especially with HFCS in it, that could account for your triglycerides being high. Maybe your intestines weren't processing your food right before and that kept your triglycerides lowish.

The very best treatment for high triglycerides is to stop eating the refined carbohydrates like bready and sugary things. Cut out the breads, crackers, non-diet soda pop, juices and eat whole foods like meats, veggies, fish, whole fruits. Your triglycerides will come down about 25% every few months. And all that "whole grain" hype is utter nonsense, your body will easily metabolize even whole grains into triglycerides.

Anyway, I find this cardiologist has a wonderful grasp on cholesterol (for the most part): Open Original Shared Link Read some of his old postings.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - trents replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      5

      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

    2. - MauraBue posted a topic in Gluten-Free Foods, Products, Shopping & Medications
      0

      Have Tru Joy Sweets Choco Chews been discontinued??

    3. - catnapt replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      5

      how much gluten do I need to eat before blood tests?

    4. - suek54 replied to suek54's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      7

      Awaiting dermatitis herpetiformis confirmation following biopsy

    5. - knitty kitty replied to suek54's topic in Dermatitis Herpetiformis
      7

      Awaiting dermatitis herpetiformis confirmation following biopsy

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,260
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    MauraBue
    Newest Member
    MauraBue
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • trents
      The rate of damage to the villous lining of the SB and the corresponding loss of nutrient absorbing efficiency varies tremendously from celiac to celiac. Yes, probably is dose dependent if, by dose dependent you mean the amount of exposure to gluten. But damage rates and level of sensitivity also seem to depend on the genetic profile. Those with both genes HLA-DQ2 and HLA-DQ8 seem to be more sensitive to minor amounts of gluten exposure than those with just one of those genes and those with only DQ2 seem to be more sensitive than those with only DQ8. But there are probably many factors that influence the damage rate to the villi as well as intensity of reaction to exposure. There is still a lot we don't know. One of the gray areas is in regard to those who are "silent" celiacs, i.e. those who seem to be asymptomatic or whose symptoms are so minor that they don't garner attention. When they get a small exposure (such as happens in cross contamination) and have no symptoms does that equate to no inflammation? We don't necessarily know. The "sensitive" celiac knows without a doubt, however, when they get exposure from cross contamination and the helps them know better what food products to avoid.
    • MauraBue
      Help!  My 5 year old daughter just stopped eating dairy and gluten due to her EoE and Celiac.  Her favorite candy in the world is tootsie rolls.  I did some research, and it sounds like these are the only options for finding something similar, but I can't find them anywhere to actually purchase.  Have they been discontinued??  Does anyone have another recommendation for a gluten-free/DF tootsie roll option?
    • catnapt
      I wonder how long it usually takes and if it is dose dependent as well... or if some ppl have a more pronounced reaction to gluten than others   thanks again for all the great info    
    • suek54
      Wow KK, thank you so much for all your attached info. I had a very quick scan but will read more in depth later.  The one concerning corticosteroid use is very interesting. That would relate to secondary adrenal insufficiency I think , ie AI caused by steroids such as taken long term for eg asthma. I have primary autoimmune AI, my adrenals are atrophied, no chance if recovery there. But I am in touch with some secondaries, so something to bear in mind. .  Niacin B3 Very interesting too. Must have a good read about that.  Im sure lots of questions will arise as I progress with dermatitis herpetiformis. In the mean time, thanks for your help.
    • knitty kitty
      Welcome to the forum, @suek54, I have Dermatitis Herpetiformis, too.  I found taking Niacin B3 very helpful in clearing my skin from blisters as well as improving the itchies-without-rash (peripheral neuropathy).  Niacin has been used since the 1950's to improve dermatitis herpetiformis.   I try to balance my iodine intake (which will cause flairs) with Selenium which improves thyroid function.   Interesting Reading: Dermatitis herpetiformis effectively treated with heparin, tetracycline and nicotinamide https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10844495/   Experience with selenium used to recover adrenocortical function in patients taking glucocorticosteroids long https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24437222/   Two Cases of Dermatitis Herpetiformis Successfully Treated with Tetracycline and Niacinamide https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30390734/   Steroid-Resistant Rash With Neuropsychiatric Deterioration and Weight Loss: A Modern-Day Case of Pellagra https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12532421/#:~:text=Figure 2.,(right panel) upper limbs.&text=The distribution of the rash,patient's substantial response to treatment.   Nicotinic acid therapy of dermatitis herpetiformis (1950) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15412276/
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.