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Oil Pulling


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I finally bought oil for my dd. She wont be starting for awhile b/c she has alot of major stress right now. I will post when she gets normal again.


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YoloGx Rookie

Hi AliB,

I was on basically a paleo diet for many years (although I wasn't avoiding all trace glutens until a little over a year ago), but now find I can eat whole brown rice pretty regularly which I couldn't previously. I still can't handle eating any milk other than plain nonfat organic yogurt. I don't want to give up the new things I can eat however since I still have so very many sensitivities, including fruit sugar and all nuts. Am also allergic direly to all nuts, sesame plus potatoes, tomatoes etc.

As far as my two cents go, I agree it is wise in general for most of us to follow the paleo diet whenever possible, however sometimes if one can add a few more things to it is lovely since it gives one more flexibility.

However, I am suggesting to my ex boyfriend (but still good buddy) that he follow the paleo diet since he still is so very sensitive. He pigged out recently all with sugary gluten free deserts and now is really suffering -- again! Its not as bad as it would have been if they had gluten, however it is bad. For him for now he just needs to stay on diet avoiding all grains plus take detox and emollient herbs.

Meanwhile, I have noticed that the oil pulling seems to be calming down my nerves, especially at night and even when I am doing my yoga. I have been helped a great deal by taking co-enzyme B's however I was still having trouble if my sacrum was at all out of joint. This for me is a godsend since I have also had a lot of nerve damage being on trace glutens for many years, which basically was destroying the myelin sheath covering my nerves. I occasionally used to have an oatmeal cookie as well as herbal tinctures (funny--I always noticed the plain herbs I boiled up were always much more effective for me! and liquid alcohol based homeopathics didn't work for me either).

I also have a damaged L-5 vertebrae which connects with the sciatic nerves plus a tricky sacrum. Most fortunately I found a device on the Internet which helps me self adjust. Its called a sacro wedgy. Its great for the sacrum and also often for the whole back and neck. That and yoga plus plenty of walks and I am good to go! Especially now with the oil pulling too calming down and I think maybe even helping to restore my nerves.

I use organic cold pressed olive oil, not sesame of which I am very allergic to as said.

As far as the gum issue and brightening the teeth--just yesterday I bought a new electric tooth brush which massages the gums and they say deep cleans the plaque off the teeth more effectively. Thought I'd give it a try. Seems nice already! Maybe it will help some of you? I got the cheapo Walgreens version...just to give it a try. Whatever we can do to avoid radical procedures by the dentist I am all for...!

Bea

  • 4 weeks later...
lonewolf Collaborator

Is anyone still doing this?

I started a few days ago and haven't really noticed much, except that I don't seem to have as bad "morning breath" as usual and I do get mucus coming up and my nose runs for a while each morning after doing the swishing. I'm hoping it will help my psoriasis, but I'm not holding my breath.

YoloGx Rookie

Am still doing the oil pull at least 5 days a week. I seem to be overall sleeping better and have more energy in the morning--which is huge for me. My teeth feel better. Am not sure if they are looking better however I also drink various herb teas on occasion that may be staining my teeth.

Am also mostly doing the paleo diet again. I find I am much better if I only eat cooked grains now every other day at most...No ground up grains anymore. They seem to cause candida. I am hopeful at some point I can have a little fruit again. The good thing is that I am totally off all sugars. Only sugar like thing I have is stevia: in my plain nonfat yogurt or fresh lemon squeezed in water or hot coconut milk with carob...

I am wondering if the oil pull has helped me get to this new stage since coincident with it as said the old cravings have finally gone it seems for good. I even gave all my alternative flours to my mother the other day since it appears they always bothered my system. Previous to the oil pull I was almost addicted to my teff etc. pancakes...

Bea

purple Community Regular

I got my dd started but I don't have an update yet except that her teeth are whiter. Should know more in a day or two. She is doing sesame oil.

Update

I talked to my dd today. She's been doing OP for about 2 weeks. She can only do it 5-8 minutes. A few very small sores in her mouth but not bothersome. She can tell her teeth are whiter. No other differences.

digmom1014 Enthusiast

Started oil pulling today-with olive oil. I also have coconut and sesame so, I'll switch up. If it helps me with my teeth I am all for it! I had started another thread on stained teeth and one of the posters sent me here, so glad she did.

I am currently having a lot of dental work done and it is really breaking the bank.

lindalee Enthusiast

Do any of you know if brushing with the coconut oil makes the teeth whiter? or removes plaque?


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Do any of you know if brushing with the coconut oil makes the teeth whiter? or removes plaque?

I use coconut oil now and I don't think it whitens as well as the sesame oil I used to use.

lindalee Enthusiast
I use coconut oil now and I don't think it whitens as well as the sesame oil I used to use.

Thought I would try brushing with the coconut oil first and then start on the pulling. Noticed the backs of my bottom front teeth have stains/tartar. Anyone else try brushing first?

Nadia2009 Enthusiast

I am a newbie and I have a question to fellow oil pullers...it is kinda urgent.

I have been oil pulling for the last 5-6 weeks and I have been to the great web site you must know earthclinic.com. Also, I started doing on and off another detox for heavy metal (I need to take some pills before food and during food). I do oil pulling first thing in the morning for 20 minutes with organic sesame oil. My experience with oil pulling has been excellent. But I started having depressive feelings (not without a reason though) then, had no appetite for food and had nausea after catching a big cold/flu that lasted 4 days only. That was two weeks ago and the beginning of my stomach pain and even more lethargy than before. I wondering if oil pulling exacerbated my reaction to gluten.

The other thing thing is that I always keep having cold/flu symptoms and lethargy and some pain around articulation. I was blaming my lack of exercise and not having the perfect body alignment. For the cold/flu symptoms with sinus compression and persistent caughing, they are often with me. I created another discussion on having symptoms of gluten intolerance. I don't know exactly what I have but have been researching actively lately and going to see my doctor to order the usual exams. The symptoms for gluten intolerance are matching mine.

Anyway, I am asking you here if you think that my strong symptoms could be related to oil pulling as well as gluten intolerance. I have stopped oil pulling yesterday and I dont know if I should keep up.

I am now eating gluten free so that I can feel a little better and face my responsibilities in life but I will go back before getting the test.

Please tell me if it is good that I stopped oil pulling before the tests with the doctor. How can it affect my body and the test?

  • 1 month later...
Michi8 Contributor

I have been reading up on OP, and considering trying it, since hearing that it can be helpful for keratosis pilaris. However, the skeptic in me is having a very hard time believing that this process can detoxify the body...it just does not seem scientifically plausible. I, quite frankly, don't believe that any of the so-called detox therapies do more than empty your wallet.

I do wonder if what is really happening, for those who see benefits, is that nutrients from the oil(s) are being absorbed sublingually. After all, swishing oil for 20 minutes should keep it in contact with the mucous membranes long enough to see some absorption. And, if that's the case, would simply applying drops of oil under the tongue for a period of time convey as much benefit?

Michelle

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Hi all! I'd never heard of this before coming across this discussion on the forum.

I did google it and read info about it. Also found an abstract on a controlled study done on it (oil pulling), as it relates to dental health:

Effect of oil pulling on Streptococcus mutans count in plaque and saliva using Dentocult SM Strip mutans test: A randomized, controlled, triple-blind study

"In this study there was a definitive reduction in the S. mutans count in plaque and saliva after oil pulling therapy."

Very interesting. Had gum problems all my life (surprise) and think I'll give this a try. I am worried about fillings, however.

Anyway, here's the link to the dental study:

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Scroll down and read the "Discussion" part, interesting.

purple Community Regular
Hi all! I'd never heard of this before coming across this discussion on the forum.

I did google it and read info about it. Also found an abstract on a controlled study done on it (oil pulling), as it relates to dental health:

Effect of oil pulling on Streptococcus mutans count in plaque and saliva using Dentocult SM Strip mutans test: A randomized, controlled, triple-blind study

"In this study there was a definitive reduction in the S. mutans count in plaque and saliva after oil pulling therapy."

Very interesting. Had gum problems all my life (surprise) and think I'll give this a try. I am worried about fillings, however.

Anyway, here's the link to the dental study:

Open Original Shared Link

Scroll down and read the "Discussion" part, interesting.

I haven't tried it b/c of my many fillings :( but my dd (20) did it for almost a month and her teeth are alot whiter! She used the sesame oil and could only swish for 5-10 minutes...still worked.

Michi8, its not so expensive...just a bottle of oil and if you change your mind you can use it to cook with.

Michi8 Contributor
I haven't tried it b/c of my many fillings :( but my dd (20) did it for almost a month and her teeth are alot whiter! She used the sesame oil and could only swish for 5-10 minutes...still worked.

Michi8, its not so expensive...just a bottle of oil and if you change your mind you can use it to cook with.

I know that this particular practice wouldn't be expensive. In terms of cost, I was alluding to scams like ionic cleansing, ear candling, ionic foot pads, etc. :)

I still don't buy the detox part of it. I think I will try it in the form of oil supplements, and using certain oils (I'm most interested in using coconut oil) for cooking...and I may try it sublingually. Don't think I'm going to bother swishing.

Michelle

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