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Whats The Deal With Drs?

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crimsontopper Rookie
crimsontopper
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i am new to the forum. i am currently exhibiting many of the symptoms most posters talk about. during my reading i have come across one thing that seems to be consistant throughout diagnosis and that is that drs easily dismiss celiac. why is this? i asked my dr to prefrom the test and after asking why they agreed easily.

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mushroom Proficient
mushroom
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You were one of the lucky ones, first of all to know about celiac, and secondly to have a doctor willingly test you for it. Count yourself as fortunate :) .

OptimisticMom42 Apprentice
OptimisticMom42
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It was easy for us also. There are three of us in our house and we didn't have and problem getting the dr's to dx us.

Jestgar Rising Star
Jestgar
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I had no problem getting tested, and even though it was neg (anti gliadin only was run) my doc feels that the improvement in my health is proof enough.

ENF Enthusiast
ENF
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It seems that various states have different rules for allowing insurance companies to deny coverage for testing and other procedures. My state is pretty good in this regard, and I can usaually get whatever tests I want.

G-freegal12 Contributor
G-freegal12
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They are all so under educated it's crazy. :angry: I am gonna be a doctor so I can be educated and fix people :D ....why did everyone start screaming and running away when I said I wanted to be a doctor...? :P

GarBear Newbie
GarBear
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i am new to the forum. i am currently exhibiting many of the symptoms most posters talk about. during my reading i have come across one thing that seems to be consistant throughout diagnosis and that is that drs easily dismiss celiac. why is this? i asked my dr to prefrom the test and after asking why they agreed easily.

Ugh! i went to my (mediocre) doctor yesterday to ask him for the lab slip to get tested for celiac (I've been gluten-free for three months now), and anyway... he was SO RUDE about it! I was really upset! He had originally told me that i had irritable bowel (which in my opinion is a total cop-out diagnosis and it just means that they have no idea what's wrong with you). It seemed like he was offended that i didn't agree at all with his original diagnosis.

Anyway... i've been rambling.. Took my blood tests this morning (anxiously waiting for the results! haha)

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Ugh! i went to my (mediocre) doctor yesterday to ask him for the lab slip to get tested for celiac (I've been gluten-free for three months now), and anyway... he was SO RUDE about it! I was really upset! He had originally told me that i had irritable bowel (which in my opinion is a total cop-out diagnosis and it just means that they have no idea what's wrong with you). It seemed like he was offended that i didn't agree at all with his original diagnosis.

Anyway... i've been rambling.. Took my blood tests this morning (anxiously waiting for the results! haha)

IF you have been gluten-free for 3 months chances are the test will be negative. You need to be consuming gluten for the tests to be positive. If you need a doctors diagnosis you need to go back on gluten. If the challenge makes you very ill IMHO you have your answer no matter what the test results.

jkr Apprentice
jkr
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i am new to the forum. i am currently exhibiting many of the symptoms most posters talk about. during my reading i have come across one thing that seems to be consistant throughout diagnosis and that is that drs easily dismiss celiac. why is this? i asked my dr to prefrom the test and after asking why they agreed easily.

Yes, I had to have two endoscopies to prove it to the GI. When I first told him last year I thought I had celiac, he said to me "but you don't diarrhea." After the first endoscopy I told him I wanted the blood tests, then he took me seriouisly when they were very abnormal. Then he took the biopies for the second one. I know a lot of people would have switched doctors but I didn't want to go to another doctor and start over.

Good luck.

ang1e0251 Contributor
ang1e0251
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You're lucky because you had a clue to your illness. Those of us that are clueless go to our dr's with these seemingly random symptoms expecting our dr to put it all together. Many dr's are just undereducated about celiac disease and don't see the pattern. So we are stuck spinning our wheels while test after test is run with no results. Oh if I only could have had the knowledge to ask for a celiac panel....

GarBear Newbie
GarBear
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IF you have been gluten-free for 3 months chances are the test will be negative. You need to be consuming gluten for the tests to be positive. If you need a doctors diagnosis you need to go back on gluten. If the challenge makes you very ill IMHO you have your answer no matter what the test results.

Interesting.. Well thanks for the info =)

ann72601 Apprentice
ann72601
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i am new to the forum. i am currently exhibiting many of the symptoms most posters talk about. during my reading i have come across one thing that seems to be consistant throughout diagnosis and that is that drs easily dismiss celiac. why is this? i asked my dr to prefrom the test and after asking why they agreed easily.

It seems that if you are a woman, it's harder to be heard. If you're an uninsured woman, it's even harder. If you are alone........bring someone with you :lol:

Li'l Buck Newbie
Li'l Buck
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At 40, my lifetime GP retired. My new doctor checked my history and had me tested almost immediately. I think he has celiac disease and so has a vested interest in learning about the disease. What kills me are the Drs in emergency (presumably they are supposed to have the most current medical info?) and paramedics who know nothing about it.

I think that most Doctors get their information (post medical school and perhaps even during) from the drug companies and since they don't have a drug to patent to cure us; they prefer to focus on the drugs to treat our symptoms... far more profitable for the drug companies.

ann72601 Apprentice
ann72601
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At 40, my lifetime GP retired. My new doctor checked my history and had me tested almost immediately. I think he has celiac disease and so has a vested interest in learning about the disease. What kills me are the Drs in emergency (presumably they are supposed to have the most current medical info?) and paramedics who know nothing about it.

I think that most Doctors get their information (post medical school and perhaps even during) from the drug companies and since they don't have a drug to patent to cure us; they prefer to focus on the drugs to treat our symptoms... far more profitable for the drug companies.

In my case, I had to kiss a lot of frogs before I found the prince. I use an MD and ND, both are older and wiser having experienced more than med school. It doesn't matter what there is in life to learn; there is nothing like experiencing it and this means doctors too. My thanks actually goes to the people here who have been there and done that. They've helped me know how to deal with docs and all the daily challenges that come with celiac. I love them!!

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