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Delayed Food Reactions

Leper Messiah

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Leper Messiah Apprentice
Leper Messiah
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Hi,

Anyone experience (or know that they do!) delayed symptoms for any of their intolerances. Generally for me my symptoms are extreme tiredness and hunger straight after eating as well as a blown up stomach but like today I'm fairly sure I haven't had any gluten, accidental or otherwise yet my symptoms are quite severe.

Just made me think it could be a delayed reaction to something I ate at the weekend, not gluten but I accidentally had a lot of food that sneakily had milk powder in it which I didn't notice until after I'd eat quite a bit of it and I'm pretty sure milk is a problem food for me.

Any experiences/thoughts on delayed onset food allergies?

What a pain in the @ss these reactions are...oh to eat like a 'normal' person.

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jnclelland Contributor
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Hi,

Anyone experience (or know that they do!) delayed symptoms for any of their intolerances.

Yup - dairy and soy reliably give me a rash that sets in about 36 hours after I eat them.

Jeanne

ravenwoodglass Mentor
ravenwoodglass
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My neuro symptoms and stomach growling happen pretty quick. My GI issues, DH breakout and muscle and joint pain don't normally hit until 3 or 4 days later. My allergist said this was normal for intolerances and that for some the reaction can take up to a week.

hypersof Apprentice
hypersof
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well, I'm still fairly new to all that (1 month gluten-free),

but it seems that for me, the GI symptoms hit around a half day after accidental "glutening", and the rest of the symptoms (brain fog, rash...) arrive a couple days later...think I got glutened about 6 days ago, my digestive tract is getting back to normal (BM need time but insane bloating was gone pretty quick), and the fatigue and rash are just begginning to slow down now...

I hope this is all going to be behind me very soon, & hope the same for you!!

Sophie

Leper Messiah Apprentice
Leper Messiah
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Just out of interest when you start on the gluten free diet, how far back does one glutening put you?

I've gone gluten, soy and dairy free and think I've just about found a daily diet that I can stick to but fearful that because the person I live with isn't gluten free that a crumb or two may have sneaked under the radar onto my plate/food and into my stomach.

bridgetm Enthusiast
bridgetm
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I felt minor symptoms immediately after that pie incident on Sunday, but I didn't start to get severe abdominal pain until late last night and this morning and it's steadily getting worse. It doesn't help that I crash-tested a few questionable things, such as a single Quaker Quake. I've learned my lesson, but I've just gotten so tired of reading labels and planning every bite.

Relatively on topic... Anyone have any post-glutening tips? Do you simplify your diet as much as possible your system returns to "normal"? Focus more on hydration? Or just make sure you don't get glutened again so as not to compound the symptoms?

Wolicki Enthusiast
Wolicki
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Simple foods, lots of water, no dairy and probiotics. There is anecdotal evidence that LGlutamine helps, but I have not tried it yet.

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Leper Messiah Apprentice
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Why do you say no probiotics?

jackay Enthusiast
jackay
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Why do you say no probiotics?

I'm sure she means simple food, lots of water, probiotics and no dairy.

bridgetm Enthusiast
bridgetm
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Simple foods, lots of water, no dairy and probiotics. There is anecdotal evidence that LGlutamine helps, but I have not tried it yet.

I've been drinking lots of water today and eating the basics (fresh fruits, veggies, some lean meat, peanut butter, a potato and some gluten free banana bread). I've noticed some definite improvement though the pain is worst within an hour of eating; the general abdominal pain is now more localized. It's bothering me, but at least I'm not curled up in a ball.

I've been avoiding dairy for over a week and started taking a multi-vitamin. Any probiotic suggestions?

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