Tcm Diagnosis: Liver Qi Stagnation With Blood Deficiency

[lucia]

Hi Celiacers,

So, I've been off of gluten now for 7 weeks (and more lately off lactose and soy). My GI symptoms have cleared up entirely. I'm still having quite a few issues though, notably insomnia, neuropathy/joint pain, and menstrual issues.

My TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) practitioner gave me the diagnosis of Liver Qi stagnation with Blood deficiency. Has anyone else gotten a TCM diagnosis? Is this a common diagnosis for people with gluten intolerance/Celiac? I have had to deal with fibromyalgia in the past, and am worried that the stress I've been under kicked me into a fibro flare. It feels different than fibromyalgia though. Any ideas about how soon I can expect to feel better?

I'm still surprised that I'm having so many issues after going off of gluten. It seems like my body went completely out of whack in January, and I got really, really sick after feeling healthy for many years.

Thanks for any help you can provide! Appreciate the brain trust here.

[Looking for answers]

I had many lingering issues after going gluten-free until I found a good multi-vitamin. antioxidant, vitamin B, D, K, ubitquitol (sp?), probiotics and enzymes. Yes, I take several pills through the day, but I have trouble getting the nutrients out of my food, despite eating mostly whole, organic foods. Without the proper supplementation, I was just "spinning my wheels" and my body wasn't recovering from the gluten aftermath. I suggest you see a homeopathic or naturopath to help you figure out your nutritional deficiencies...then you're body will be able to balance itself out.

[Mari]

Sludgy bile and low bile pool are what the practitioner was most likely referring to. I read a number of messages about this at the Liver Flush Support Forum at Curezone and realized that it might be part of my digestion problem. I did some searches on the internet and found out that we need to have a good bile pool available when we eat. Apparently Drs treat this with a high fiber diet so I began eating fiber (gluten-free oat bran) with all my meals and this is working - in addition to eating grapefruit after meals and taking magnesium capsules. I have been doing gall bladder flushes for years and gotten out many stones but wasn't producing enough bile as my stools were still light colored.

[Looking for answers]

Sludgy bile and low bile pool are what the practitioner was most likely referring to. I read a number of messages about this at the Liver Flush Support Forum at Curezone and realized that it might be part of my digestion problem. I did some searches on the internet and found out that we need to have a good bile pool available when we eat. Apparently Drs treat this with a high fiber diet so I began eating fiber (gluten-free oat bran) with all my meals and this is working - in addition to eating grapefruit after meals and taking magnesium capsules. I have been doing gall bladder flushes for years and gotten out many stones but wasn't producing enough bile as my stools were still light colored.

Oh, be sure to take enzymes and probiotics with each meal. They will help with this!

[ravenwoodglass]

Since you are already seeing a practitioner ask his advice on healing foods. Chinese medicine has a long history of using food for medicinal purposes. I used to have a great book on it but loaned it to someone and never got it back. Are you getting acupuncture treatments? I found them very helpful for dealing with Qi stagnation and started doing accupressure myself to help deal with some symptoms and found that helpful also. There are many good books on acupressure. My favorite is 'A tooth from a tiger's mouth' by Bisio. I found it very helpful.