Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Low Dose Naltroxene


cassP

Recommended Posts

cassP Contributor

Low Dose Naltroxene ???? would like to know experienced input from members on here with Celiac, and maybe also Thyroid Disease.

Hi, i am REALLY struggling right now- i have way too many debhilitating symptoms that often keep me secluded in my home :( i have Celiac and BOTH: Hashimoto's & Grave's. while the Armour is helping with many of my hypo symptoms- some of my hyper symptoms are worse.. it's a ROLLERCOASTER. anyways- i would like to know what your experience is if you are taking Low Dose Naltroxene. members on the "Stop the Thyroid Madness" forum are urging me to look into LDN and that its really helped them. im hesitant to add another drug to my body... plus i was worried because LDN is supposed to give a little boost to the immune system- BUT I THOUGHT that our immune systems were hyperactive and needed soothing, not boosting.

so, that's why im asking you here- because the autoimmune thyroid members are telling me that the LDN has helped them, but im wondering what it does when you have Celiac- would it cause our celiac antibodies to go into overdrive? or would it be helpful?

thanku


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Looking for answers Contributor

Hey there!

I was prescribed it by a doctor at the Whitaker Wellness Center. I started taking it but then stopped as my hubby and I started talking about getting pregnant. I did a lot of research into it and it really seems to help people with autoimmune problems - all types. My doctor said it helped her reverse Lupus. I would defintely do your research, find a good doctor to work with. The only side effects I had was some vivid dreams. Dr. Mercola's site was the first I learned about it, so start there. He recommends it.

Skylark Collaborator

Hi, Cass

If you try this, please let me know how it turns out because we're in the same boat. I've read about LDN in fibro and MS, but not in thyroid disease. MS is autoimmune and there are even two peer-reviewed studies that it helps people feel better.

My current thing is trying to go low-fluoride. I figured out I moved to an area with fluoridated water shortly before my thyroid started getting worse and worse. There is sixty years of research on how fluoride can make you hypothyroid if you're getting enough of a dose. Grrrr... Get that crap outta my water!!!!

I'm drinking distilled water, brushing teeth with Tom's toothpaste which is fluoride-free, and trying to squeeze a little more organic food into the budget to get away from pesticide residues.

You tell me if LDN works and I'll let you know about fluoride! I'm on day four. B)

burdee Enthusiast

Low Dose Naltroxene ???? would like to know experienced input from members on here with Celiac, and maybe also Thyroid Disease.

i would like to know what your experience is if you are taking Low Dose Naltroxene. i was worried because LDN is supposed to give a little boost to the immune system- BUT I THOUGHT that our immune systems were hyperactive and needed soothing, not boosting.

so, that's why im asking you here- because the autoimmune thyroid members are telling me that the LDN has helped them, but im wondering what it does when you have Celiac- would it cause our celiac antibodies to go into overdrive? or would it be helpful?

I've been taking low dose naltrexone (LDN) daily since last November (11/29/10). Before I started taking LDN, my white blood cells were low and I had continual respiratory infections (colds, sinus infections).

During the first few weeks of LDN I had more vivid dreams, but nothing really disturbing. However, LDN intensified the effect of my thyroid hormones. The LDN website warns thyroid patients to begin LDN at the lowest effective dose to prevent hyperthyroid symptoms. However, I was taking 50 mcg T4 and 10 mcg T3 daily when I began the LDN. Soon after starting LDN I experienced hyperthyroid symptoms. So I decreased my LDN to 1.5 mg. However, my colds continued. So I decided to just take tne T3, since I don't easily convert T4 to T3, and increase the LDN back to 3 mg. After 3 months of LDN my white blood cells increased to the normal range, but my T4 level was really low. So I slowly increased my T4 while maintaining my LDN (3mg) level). I had no more hyperthyroid symptoms and no colds for the past 2 months!

LDN did NOT exacerbate my celiac sensitivity, but I absolutely abstain from gluten as well as my 6 other allergens, because I've always had obvious (painful gut) reactions to my allergens. LDN decreased my Hashimoto's antibodies even lower than 6 years of gluten abstinence had decreased them. I've also noticed decreased hypothyroid symptoms (and no more hyper reactions). So I opted to take another 3 months of LDN (after my first 3 months). Beyond my initial hyperthyroid reactions and vivid dreams, my body adjusted to LDN and I've had no more adverse reactions. If you decide to take LDN, start at the lowest effective dose (no lower than 1.5 mg daily) and work up to whatever dose works with your thyroid supps (no higher than 4.0). I do well on 3.0mg, because I'm between 100-105#. LDN dosage is recommended by weight. PM me for the LDN website, which will answer more of your questions.

Looking for answers Contributor

I've been taking low dose naltrexone (LDN) daily since last November (11/29/10). Before I started taking LDN, my white blood cells were low and I had continual respiratory infections (colds, sinus infections).

During the first few weeks of LDN I had more vivid dreams, but nothing really disturbing. However, LDN intensified the effect of my thyroid hormones. The LDN website warns thyroid patients to begin LDN at the lowest effective dose to prevent hyperthyroid symptoms. However, I was taking 50 mcg T4 and 10 mcg T3 daily when I began the LDN. Soon after starting LDN I experienced hyperthyroid symptoms. So I decreased my LDN to 1.5 mg. However, my colds continued. So I decided to just take tne T3, since I don't easily convert T4 to T3, and increase the LDN back to 3 mg. After 3 months of LDN my white blood cells increased to the normal range, but my T4 level was really low. So I slowly increased my T4 while maintaining my LDN (3mg) level). I had no more hyperthyroid symptoms and no colds for the past 2 months!

LDN did NOT exacerbate my celiac sensitivity, but I absolutely abstain from gluten as well as my 6 other allergens, because I've always had obvious (painful gut) reactions to my allergens. LDN decreased my Hashimoto's antibodies even lower than 6 years of gluten abstinence had decreased them. I've also noticed decreased hypothyroid symptoms (and no more hyper reactions). So I opted to take another 3 months of LDN (after my first 3 months). Beyond my initial hyperthyroid reactions and vivid dreams, my body adjusted to LDN and I've had no more adverse reactions. If you decide to take LDN, start at the lowest effective dose (no lower than 1.5 mg daily) and work up to whatever dose works with your thyroid supps (no higher than 4.0). I do well on 3.0mg, because I'm between 100-105#. LDN dosage is recommended by weight. PM me for the LDN website, which will answer more of your questions.

It's great to hear of your success!

Looking for answers Contributor

Hi, Cass

If you try this, please let me know how it turns out because we're in the same boat. I've read about LDN in fibro and MS, but not in thyroid disease. MS is autoimmune and there are even two peer-reviewed studies that it helps people feel better.

My current thing is trying to go low-fluoride. I figured out I moved to an area with fluoridated water shortly before my thyroid started getting worse and worse. There is sixty years of research on how fluoride can make you hypothyroid if you're getting enough of a dose. Grrrr... Get that crap outta my water!!!!

I'm drinking distilled water, brushing teeth with Tom's toothpaste which is fluoride-free, and trying to squeeze a little more organic food into the budget to get away from pesticide residues.

You tell me if LDN works and I'll let you know about fluoride! I'm on day four. B)

I totally agree with you. I also use Tom's, drinked reverse-osmosis water, and I even put a filter on my shower...don't know if it removes fluoride or not, but every little step helps. Fluoride isn't even FDA approved, yet we're all consuming so much of it. Scary!

cassP Contributor

thanku everyone for your replies!

Sue: i was concerned about the Celiac because it seems my digestive tract is RIDICULOUSLY SENSITIVE. i got glutened over 3 weeks ago ( im suspecting PF CHANGS)- and i am STILL recovering... :(

also Sue- when u talk about changing your doses, and then doing T3 only for a short period of time- how did your doctor feel about this??? ive been getting labs every 6 weeks- and altho my doc is super great and prescribed Armour, and also has been testing my RT3... she seems to be very resistant to T3 only, 24hour adrenal test, etc.... plus she doesnt seem to fully understand how i am experiencing hypo & hyper symptoms simultaneously... :/

i think my WBCs are okay.. i rarely get sick- but my hypo & hyper symptoms, vit D & iron deficiency, and my additional food intolerances are sometimes UNBEARABLE... that's why im considering also looking into this LDN.

thanku again!!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



burdee Enthusiast

Sue: i was concerned about the Celiac because it seems my digestive tract is RIDICULOUSLY SENSITIVE. i got glutened over 3 weeks ago ( im suspecting PF CHANGS)- and i am STILL recovering... :(

also Sue- when u talk about changing your doses, and then doing T3 only for a short period of time- how did your doctor feel about this??? ive been getting labs every 6 weeks- and altho my doc is super great and prescribed Armour, and also has been testing my RT3... she seems to be very resistant to T3 only, 24hour adrenal test, etc.... plus she doesnt seem to fully understand how i am experiencing hypo & hyper symptoms simultaneously... :/

i think my WBCs are okay.. i rarely get sick- but my hypo & hyper symptoms, vit D & iron deficiency, and my additional food intolerances are sometimes UNBEARABLE... that's why im considering also looking into this LDN.

Taking L-glutamine helps my intestines recover after accidental contamination. I also took that to heal my stomach while treating H. Pylori. I don't know whether LDN is used for gluten sensitivity. See Open Original Shared Link for uses and precautions for LDN. I can't remember reading about using LDN for gluten sensitivity. However, it's used for many other autoimmune diseases, which are highly correlated with (if not caused by) gluten intolerance. My doc prescribed LDN to raise my immunity. I was pleasantly surprised when LDN reduced my Hashimoto's antibodies.

My doc respects my decisions so I stayed on T3 only for 2 months while I adjusted to LDN. However, my next blood test showed my T4 was very low. Then she and I both agreed that I should resume taking T4, but start at a lower dose. I'm now back to my original 50mcg dose (with 10mcg of T3) daily. I plan to retest after another month to see where my thyroid hormones and white blood cells are.

  • 2 weeks later...
beachbirdie Contributor

Be careful when using Tom's toothpaste. Read the label closely because they make both fluoride and non-fluoride versions.

I use one without silica and without foaming agents. Weleda makes some good ones.

beachbirdie

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - xxnonamexx replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      16

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Roses8721's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      15

      GI DX celiac despite neg serology and no biopsy

    3. - knitty kitty replied to xxnonamexx's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      16

      My journey is it gluten or fiber?

    4. - Wheatwacked replied to Roses8721's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      15

      GI DX celiac despite neg serology and no biopsy

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,746
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    CarlyRenee
    Newest Member
    CarlyRenee
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • xxnonamexx
      Thanks very interesting I have to see if I should take these 2 vitamins along with my multi and super Vit B complex or if its too much or would hurt me. I don't have any other health issues but would love to see if this improves anything especially to feel stronger build muscle.
    • Roses8721
    • knitty kitty
      How can you be negative for HLA?   What markers did you have here? Curiouser and curiouser...  
    • knitty kitty
      Yes, I have noticed a big difference.  I had serious malnutrition symptoms that my doctors couldn't figure out, so they blamed me, said I was "depressed" and washed their hands of me.  At home, I could feel myself dying, and, with nothing left to lose, I relied on knowledge from my microbiology and nutrition classes at university.  I went gluten free.  I started taking vitamins according to my nutritional deficiency symptoms.  Vitamins worked.  My health improved.  Now I'm here to help others.  Celiac disease causes malabsorption which results in malnutrition.  Doctors don't recognize the symptoms of Celiac disease and malnutrition. Benfotiamine has been shown to promote intestinal healing and digestion, improves diabetes and neuropathy and much more.  TTFD (Thiamax or TTFD-B1 Max) helps with brain function, neuropathy and lots more.  Every cell in the body needs thiamine to make energy so the cell can function.  Without sufficient thiamine, mitochondria die.  Every cell also needs thiamine and the other B vitamins to make life sustaining enzymes.  Thiamine has antiviral and antibacterial properties.   We may not be getting sufficient thiamine from our diets if we eat a lot of carbohydrates.  The more carbs one eats the more thiamine is needed to process them into energy.  If there's insufficient thiamine, the body stores the carbs as fat. This is called high calorie malnutrition.   We may not be getting sufficient thiamine from our diets if we eat a gluten free diet.  Gluten free flours and processed foods are not required to be enriched nor fortified with vitamins and minerals like their gluten containing counterparts.  Meats are the best sources of thiamine, but some veggies (beans, potatoes, squash) and fruits (citrus and berries) contain some thiamine.    Explore thiamine more here: https://hormonesmatter.com/thiamine-deficiency-causes-problems/
    • Wheatwacked
      Yes, I would be good with the diagnosis.  While NCGS isn't a malabsorptive disease like celiac disease, inflammation and restricted diets can impact Vitamin D levels.  Recovery from either disease requires avoiding gluten.  celiac disease may take a longer recovery than NCGS because in celiac disease there is intestional damage to the cilia that has to self repair in addition to the nutritional deficiencies.   Nonceliac Gluten Sensitivity Dr. Weston Price's research in the 1930s showed that diets rich in minerals and fat-soluble vitamins (A, D3, K2) promoted well-mineralized teeth, while deficiencies led to weaker enamel. Fatty liver, Intermittent diarrhea, Severe abdominal distension Choline deficiency causes abnormal deposition of fat in the liver, which results in a condition called nonalcoholic fatty liver disease. In some people, choline deficiency causes muscle damage. https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/other-nutrients/choline    Choline is a large part if the bile salts for fat digestion, Acetycholine, a neural transmitter, mitochondria membrane structure, and along with folate, B12, and B6 recycles homocysteine  High homocysteine can damage artery linings. Low vitamin D levels are associated with increased symptoms of depression and anxiety,  autoimmune diseases and most of your symptoms.    
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.