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Since going gluten free, Iv'e been using this brand of sliced cheese in my daily lunch. I can't really tell a difference between this and regular cheese, but find it interesting that not one of my 3 dogs (who love cheese) will eat this cheese.

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This might sound a little hokey but is it soy based cheese? There's a bit of controversy about humans and the true health benefits of ingesting soy. Perhaps the dogs sense it may not be good for them.

Not sure...just remember I put the hokey disclaimer out in front. :rolleyes:


K Wylee

Gluten Intolerant, Positive test, June 2010

Casein sensitivity, Positive test, June 2010

Reactive to soy, most processed foods & preservatives, June 2010

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Out of curiosity, what's the point of eating those? They have casein so they are neither vegan nor casein-free. They are heavily processed and don't look like a particularly healthy option to me. Your dogs are wise.

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Aged hard cheese is lactose-free. I still don't get why RVluvin is eating them?

They are soy-based, cholesterol, lactose and gluten free. I'm eating them because I am now gluten free and trying to be lactose free as musch as possible while my small intestine heals itself, and I enjoy a slice of cheese in my sandwich. To be honest, I've never heard of casein free. This watching what I eat is all new to me. Is this something else I need to be aware of, or is it one of those controversal additives such like MSG?

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They are soy-based, cholesterol, lactose and gluten free. I'm eating them because I am now gluten free and trying to be lactose free as musch as possible while my small intestine heals itself, and I enjoy a slice of cheese in my sandwich. To be honest, I've never heard of casein free. This watching what I eat is all new to me. Is this something else I need to be aware of, or is it one of those controversal additives such like MSG?

Its a protein in milk. Some people try to avoid all parts of milk. If you are just avoiding the lactose (which is hard to digest for many people) you could just be eating cheddar. Less odd additives.


 

 

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Aged hard cheese is lactose-free. I still don't get why RVluvin is eating them?

Wisconsin Cheesehead here with a question...

I did not know that aged hard cheese was lactose free... is Parm included or just cheddar?

I used Sartori brand BellaVitano Gold (a creamier kind of parm - no offensive ingredients listed) in a recipe yesterday and then promptly had burning ribcage pain, extreme fatigue

& "loopiness". Are these some atypical lactose intolerance symptoms?

Thanks!

Pondy


"It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones most responsive to change"

- Charles Darwin

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As the fermentation process hardens the cheese, the lactose is consumed. The harder the cheese, the lower the lactose content. Parmesan is about as hard as it gets.


Peter

Diagnosis by biopsy of practically non-existent villi; gluten-free since July 2000. I was retested five years later and the biopsy was normal. You can beat this disease!

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parmesan is about as hard as it gets

I had some "Dry Jack" from California once, that could be used as a wheel chock.... almost needed the hoof nippers to get a piece off of it. Then it wouldn't melt much in the microwave. They must have been feeding those happy Cali cows cement mix. ;)

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They are soy-based, cholesterol, lactose and gluten free. I'm eating them because I am now gluten free and trying to be lactose free as musch as possible while my small intestine heals itself, and I enjoy a slice of cheese in my sandwich. To be honest, I've never heard of casein free. This watching what I eat is all new to me. Is this something else I need to be aware of, or is it one of those controversal additives such like MSG?

As other folks said, casein is a protein in milk that a lot of gluten-sensitive folks don't tolerate very well. Since aged cheeses are very low in lactose, usually people eating soy cheese are doing it because of casein intolerance or a vegan diet. That's why I found a soy cheese with casein very confusing. :lol:

If you're not intolerant to casein, real cheese is much, much better for you than unfermented soy, plus it doesn't have all the additives that are in the Veggie Slices. (This is what your dogs are trying to tell you. ;)) Unfermented soy can interfere with calcium absorption; real cheese is a great source of calcium. There are a growing number of studies showing that eating dairy helps prevent heart disease too. Unless you're unusually sensitive to lactose you should be able to eat aged hard cheeses like sharp cheddar. Here's what looks like a pretty good article on lactose and milk products that helps explain what is safe to eat.

http://www.telusplanet.net/public/ekende/lactose.htm

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Wisconsin Cheesehead here with a question...

I did not know that aged hard cheese was lactose free... is Parm included or just cheddar?

I used Sartori brand BellaVitano Gold (a creamier kind of parm - no offensive ingredients listed) in a recipe yesterday and then promptly had burning ribcage pain, extreme fatigue

& "loopiness". Are these some atypical lactose intolerance symptoms?

Thanks!

Pondy

Typical symptoms would be bloating, gas, cramps, nausea, and diarrhea, and it usually takes a little while to get symptoms, but you're the one who knows YOUR lactose symptoms. Everyone is different and some folks get really weird symptoms from foods they can't tolerate. That cheese should be very low lactose but if those are your typical lactose symptoms, try a different Parmesan next time or take a little Lactaid (brand name is gluten-free) and see if it helps. If those aren't your personal lactose symptoms, look at the other ingredients in the recipe.

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I feed the birds on my back deck in the winter time. Of course the squirrels like to help eat the seeds too. Usually everything I put out is seeds or sometimes scraps of left overs. And it disappears in an hour tops. Except soy. I put soy nuts out once and they sat there for a week. Finally they got blown away or washed away by rain. The birds and the squirrels wouldn't eat them. Peanuts yes, soy nuts no.

There are some studies that show soy has a negative affect on intestinal cell development in rats, and also that babies tend to develop additional food allergies after being switched to soy formula.

Plus why would they spend so much money advertising soy if it was good for you? Cynical minds want to know... :)

Oh, and never mind the link to possible early sexual maturity for girls or possible negative effects for boys as it can mimmick estrogen.

And of course it is also a goitrogen and can inhibit iodine absorption by the thyroid.

Plus they make tofu out of it, yuck!


Proverbs 25:16 "Hast thou found honey? eat so much as is sufficient for thee, lest thou be filled therewith, and vomit it."

Job 30:27 My bowels boiled, and rested not: the days of affliction prevented me.

Thyroid cyst and nodules, Lactose / casein intolerant. Diet positive, gene test pos, symptoms confirmed by Dr-head. My current bad list is: gluten, dairy, sulfites, coffee (the devil's brew), tea, Bug's Bunnies carrots, garbanzo beans of pain, soy- no joy, terrible turnips, tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, eggplant, celery, strawberries, pistachios, and hard work. Have a good day! 🙂 Paul

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Just saw that the soy bean crops have been hit hard by some bug. So I believe we have found something that naturally eats soy. It's called a Kudzu bug andit came here from Asia.

Ok...so...which one of youse guys brought them over?


 

 

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My sister toured Cabot (and a few other Vermont cheese places) last year and called to tell me that the Swiss and Cheddar were gluten-free and lactaid free, and had an awesome quality control program.

I tried the Cabot cheeeses and still had a problem with them. I think it was the protein.

Now, 18 months later (but I was a chicken about trying them earlier), I enjoy parmesan, swiss, mozzerella and cheddar. I shred them myself because I've read questionable ingredients in the labels of pre-shredded cheeese. I haven't had a problem with cottage cheese or yogurt either, but I generally go with simple greek yogurt. I'm ok with milk and half & half, but there's a soy ingredient in whipping cream. Haven't tested it lately, but I might for the holidays.

There's a breath test that takes a few hours at the GI if you want to see if you're lactose intolerant. I didn't go for it myself, because I was pretty sure it was a protein/autoimmune issue. I've read that other posters could tolerate than not tolerate dairy, so I'm trying not to overload on dairy.


Positive improvement from elimination diet. Mother dx'd by Mayo Clinic in late 1980s. Negative blood tests and Upper & Lower GI biopsy. Parathyroidectomy 12/09. Recurring high calcium level 4/10. Gluten-free 4/10. Soy & Dairy Free 6/10. Corn free 7/10. Grain free except rice 8/10. Legume free 6/11. Fighting the battle of the battle within myself, and I'm going to win!

As of 2/12, tolerating dairy, corn, legumes and some soy, but I limit soy to tamari sauce or modest soy additives. Won't ever try quinoa again!

Discoid Lupus from skin biopsy 2011, discovered 2/12 when picking up medical records. Systemic Lupus Dx 6/12. Shingles 10/12.

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... but there's a soy ingredient in whipping cream.

Please provide your source for this. I have never seen a whipping cream with non-milk ingredients. What sets if off is being 35% MF - the highest of any cream.


Peter

Diagnosis by biopsy of practically non-existent villi; gluten-free since July 2000. I was retested five years later and the biopsy was normal. You can beat this disease!

Type 1 (autoimmune) diabetes diagnosed in March 1986

Markham, Ontario (borders on Toronto)

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I have a container of whipping cream : cream, mono & diglycerides & carrageenan. No soy.

Can of Reddiwip - heavy cream, water, sugar, nonfat milk, maltodextrin, cellulose gel, mono & diglycerides, natural & artificial flavors, carrageenan, cellulose gum, allergens: milk

No soy. Lots of stuff.


 

 

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Just saw that the soy bean crops have been hit hard by some bug. So I believe we have found something that naturally eats soy. It's called a Kudzu bug andit came here from Asia.

Ok...so...which one of youse guys brought them over?

Tweren't me, but I think they are swell!

Kudzu Bug' Threatens To Eat Southern U.S. Soybean Crops


Proverbs 25:16 "Hast thou found honey? eat so much as is sufficient for thee, lest thou be filled therewith, and vomit it."

Job 30:27 My bowels boiled, and rested not: the days of affliction prevented me.

Thyroid cyst and nodules, Lactose / casein intolerant. Diet positive, gene test pos, symptoms confirmed by Dr-head. My current bad list is: gluten, dairy, sulfites, coffee (the devil's brew), tea, Bug's Bunnies carrots, garbanzo beans of pain, soy- no joy, terrible turnips, tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, eggplant, celery, strawberries, pistachios, and hard work. Have a good day! 🙂 Paul

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I quess I'll avoid the soy milk as well, and go with the almond, coconut, or rice milk in my morning cereal. I'll experment a little with a sliced had cheeder, and see what happens.

Thanks everyone.

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Please provide your source for this. I have never seen a whipping cream with non-milk ingredients. What sets if off is being 35% MF - the highest of any cream.

Oops, my bad Peter. The problem I have with whipping cream is the carrageen, not soy. I don't know why that bugs me, but it does. I always associate that ingredient with soy, but it's not soy. I haven't found a whipped cream without carrageen yet, but I live in a small town.


Positive improvement from elimination diet. Mother dx'd by Mayo Clinic in late 1980s. Negative blood tests and Upper & Lower GI biopsy. Parathyroidectomy 12/09. Recurring high calcium level 4/10. Gluten-free 4/10. Soy & Dairy Free 6/10. Corn free 7/10. Grain free except rice 8/10. Legume free 6/11. Fighting the battle of the battle within myself, and I'm going to win!

As of 2/12, tolerating dairy, corn, legumes and some soy, but I limit soy to tamari sauce or modest soy additives. Won't ever try quinoa again!

Discoid Lupus from skin biopsy 2011, discovered 2/12 when picking up medical records. Systemic Lupus Dx 6/12. Shingles 10/12.

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Oops, my bad Peter. The problem I have with whipping cream is the carrageen, not soy. I don't know why that bugs me, but it does. I always associate that ingredient with soy, but it's not soy. I haven't found a whipped cream without carrageen yet, but I live in a small town.

Organic whipping cream (in a carton) shouldn't contain carageenan. Put it in a bowl with powdered sugar and whip away!


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Oops, my bad Peter. The problem I have with whipping cream is the carrageen, not soy. I don't know why that bugs me, but it does. I always associate that ingredient with soy, but it's not soy. I haven't found a whipped cream without carrageen yet, but I live in a small town.

Are you talking about whipping cream or whipped cream? There is a big difference. There is ONLY cream in the whipping cream, while whipped cream does contain a variety of additional ingredients including sweeteners and other additives.

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If you are looking for lactose free cheese i know boars head Gold Label swiss cheese is lactose free

I thought more were but I could only find for sure this one is.

I worked in a bakery during the summers and since I'm used to reading lables, I was reading the label of this cheese and was shocked that it was lactose free. I would ask you deli worker first (it says it right on the label)

Its gluten free as well (all their products are)

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