Lisa

Pamelas???!!!! What? When?

Where in the world did that quote come from??????? Got to go look now!! I love Pamela's ....

That was taken from another thread submitted by another member. My guess is that it was referring to the premade cookies. I have no personal experience with premade cookies, but love their mixes.

CADBERRY CREME EGGS ARE NOT GLUTEN FREE!! We just picked them up two weekends ago and checked the label. It says right on it Glucose Sugar (WHEAT). You can double check, but I just went and read the label again.

Sorry...

There are two very acrtive current threads regarding Carbury Eggs, please read these.

GLUCOSE, GLUCOSE SYRUP AND CARAMEL COLOUR

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It is important for those following a gluten-free diet to incorporate the latest valid scientific information into their diets. Under current Australian food law,

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glucose, glucose syrup and caramel colour are "gluten-free",

even if derived from wheat, as the wheat is so highly processed,

there is no gluten detected.

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Glucose, glucose syrup, caramel and similar ingredients have no detectable gluten, even if derived from wheat.

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New food labelling laws require food labels to list all ingredients derived from wheat, rye, barley and oats.

This does not mean that all ingredients derived from these sources actually contain gluten.

So, it is a legal requirement that the source be declared, but remember that ingredients derived from wheat that are gluten free are:

dextrose, glucose and caramel colour (additive 150).

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Accuracy of "Gluten-Free" Labels

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The legal definition of the phrase "gluten-free" varies from country to country. Current research suggests that for persons with celiac disease the maximum safe level of gluten in a finished product is probably less than 0.02% (200 parts per million) and possibly as little as 0.002% (20 parts per million).

Australian standards reserve the "gluten free" label for foods with less than 5 parts per million of gluten, as this is the smallest amount currently detectable.

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As gluten-containing grains are processed,

more and more of the gluten is removed from them,

as shown in this simple processing flow:

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Wheat Flour (80,000ppm) > Wheat Starch Codex (200ppm) > Dextrin > Maltodextrin > Glucose Syrup (<5ppm) > Dextrose > Caramel Color

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Unfortunately, in the United States, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not yet defined the term gluten free as it appears on food labels.

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It is currently up to the manufacturers of "gluten free" food items to guarantee such a claim.

"A final rule that defines the term gluten-free and identifies the criteria that would enable the food industry to use that term" is scheduled to be released by the FDA on August 2nd, 2008.

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Many so-called gluten free products have been found to have been contaminated with gluten (such as Pamela's cookies, etc.).

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Reference

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United States

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is proposing to, “define the food labeling term “gluten-free” to mean that a food bearing this claim does not contain any of the following:

An ingredient that is a “prohibited grain”, which refers to any species of wheat (durum, wheat, spelt wheat, or kamut), rye, barley or their crossbred hybrids

An ingredient that is derived from a “prohibited grain” and that has not been processed to remove gluten

An ingredient that is derived from a “prohibited grain” that has been processed to remove gluten,

if the use of the ingredient results in the presence of 20 micrograms or more gluten per gram of food

An ingredient containing 20 micrograms or more gluten per gram of food”

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Reference

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It would seem that under present US law sources must be stated ie. Glucose Syrup (from Wheat)

That however doesn't necessarily mean it contains sufficient levels of gluten to be harmful ie. < 5PPM

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I don't know if this helps to explain the situation, or just makes it more complicated.

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(submitted by Irish Dave)

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This is Dave's submitted post. As in ANYTHING, eat at your own risk.

GLUCOSE, GLUCOSE SYRUP AND CARAMEL COLOUR

.

It is important for those following a gluten-free diet to incorporate the latest valid scientific information into their diets. Under current Australian food law,

.

glucose, glucose syrup and caramel colour are "gluten-free",

even if derived from wheat, as the wheat is so highly processed,

there is no gluten detected.

.

Glucose, glucose syrup, caramel and similar ingredients have no detectable gluten, even if derived from wheat.

.

New food labelling laws require food labels to list all ingredients derived from wheat, rye, barley and oats.

This does not mean that all ingredients derived from these sources actually contain gluten.

So, it is a legal requirement that the source be declared, but remember that ingredients derived from wheat that are gluten free are:

dextrose, glucose and caramel colour (additive 150).

.

.

Accuracy of "Gluten-Free" Labels

.

The legal definition of the phrase "gluten-free" varies from country to country. Current research suggests that for persons with celiac disease the maximum safe level of gluten in a finished product is probably less than 0.02% (200 parts per million) and possibly as little as 0.002% (20 parts per million).

Australian standards reserve the "gluten free" label for foods with less than 5 parts per million of gluten, as this is the smallest amount currently detectable.

.

As gluten-containing grains are processed,

more and more of the gluten is removed from them,

as shown in this simple processing flow:

.

Wheat Flour (80,000ppm) > Wheat Starch Codex (200ppm) > Dextrin > Maltodextrin > Glucose Syrup (<5ppm) > Dextrose > Caramel Color

.

Unfortunately, in the United States, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not yet defined the term gluten free as it appears on food labels.

.

It is currently up to the manufacturers of "gluten free" food items to guarantee such a claim.

"A final rule that defines the term gluten-free and identifies the criteria that would enable the food industry to use that term" is scheduled to be released by the FDA on August 2nd, 2008.

.

Many so-called gluten free products have been found to have been contaminated with gluten (such as Pamela's cookies, etc.).

.

Reference

.

United States

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is proposing to,

Peeps are always a welcome addition at Easter.

Thank you Patty and Lisa.

(This is michael. Lisa is very sick with the flu so I'm checking this for her)

p.s. Do you drink V-8 juice? Wondering if that's okay for Lisa.

Thanks again

Hi Michael,

V-8 is gluten free, but I sure would not want to drink it if I had the flu. It would be a little bit heavy. Try some clear liquids such as 7-up, apple juice, ginger ale. All Gatorades are gluten free and so is Propel water.

We wish Lisa a speedy recovery.

So it seems like the mini Cadbury eggs are not gluten free. Are the regular sized Cadbury eggs safe? Or safe as far as we know?

As Hershey has stated - "ANY PRODUCT THAT LISTS NATURAL FLAVOR IS NOT GLUTEN FREE". The company itself will not quarantee the gluten free status of their products.

This is a great opportunity for those children with celiac. I wanted to post for those who do. It sounds wonderful.....

Looking ahead - In August 2008, Camp Arroyo, Livermore, California, an old fashioned summer camp for kids will be held Sunday, August 3 - Friday, August 8.

This camp is sponsored by Taylor Family Foundation and Celiac Disease Foundation/Team Gluten-Free and Celiac Sprue Research Foundation.

This camp is free except for a $25.00 registration fee

For more information:

www.celiaccamp.com

To volunteer:

campceliac@gmail.com

Lisa, these are updated frequently,

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Momma Goose:

thanks, as always very quick to respond and always so helpful. I knew the forum would no before the pharmacy!!!

Thanks again!!!

Glad to be of service.

I just realized I never check to see if my RX for Armour Thyroid is wheat/gluten free? I figured someone hear may know better/quicker than my pharmacy. Any help is appreciated.

AMY

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Yes it is gluten free.

just read the package as i was eating a handful, lol and i broke out in a ton of hives last night and didnt know why.

the bag says, "processed in a factory using wheat, etc."

could i have been glutened?

It appears so.

I agree and so do my non-gluten free friends. The chocolate cake is great and I have made the pound cake (with macadamias and heath/toffee pieces) from the yellow cake mix.

Every Pamala's I've tried is wonderful.

Is immitation crab a big NO- NO????

I have ALWAYS heard that it does contain gluten. What the offending form of gluten is, I don't know. (I live in the land of real crabmeat)

Hersheys has a long track record of being consistently inconsistent in their responses when people call their customer care line. Open Original Shared Link from another celiac board from 2006. It is the same crappy CYA, the same runaround. I used to be a big fan of Hersheys, but I am not so sure anymore. I definitely won't eat any of their products that contain natural flavors.

WOW, two years later....the same run-a-round. A progressive company, I think.

I'm confused, the eggs are labeled as being free of gluten, but one of the ingredients in them cannot be verified as gluten-free by the company, but the label does not reflect this?

So does this mean we can't trust the labeling, not just with Hersheys, but other companies that possibly use outsourced ingredients they cannot verify as gluten-free?

Julie,

The Cad Mini Eggs are not labled "gluten free", but they will not verify their "Natural Flavors" as gluten free. So they may or may not have an ingredient as barley, malt or rye, therefore they will not verify that the product is gluten free.....or all of Hershey's Products.

Seems that you have been around, but this is your first post. Welcome.

Celiac can have over 200 symtoms and many of the one you mentioned are symptoms.

Have you ever had any testing?

Your nerve endings in your small intestines are not the same as you would feel on your skin. You will feel no pain.

You may wake up and have a bit of a sore throat after the proceedure, but that's about it. It's nothing to worry about.

Momma Goose - during your candy research did you come across any info about what kind of grain alcohol they use in vanillin. I've eaten some candies that appear to be gluten free, but for some reason I will have a slight gluten type reaction (itchng, etc). When I read the ingredients, the only suspect I see is the grain alcohol in the vanillin.

As noted on a separate thread regarding Cadbury Mini Eggs, Hershey's will NOT guarantee the gluten status of this product. Hershey also stated that "natural flavor" in ANY OF THEIR PRODUCTS ARE NOT CONSIDERED GLUTEN FREE. They will not identify any gluten source from their suppliers as it is "propriety information and they are not required to disclose". SO, therefore their product may or may not contain barley, malt or rye.... (as per a conversation with a supervisor 3-6-08 )

SHAME ON HERSHEY!

Supervisor Call:

All allergens are disclosed as required by law.

Natural Flavor is outsourced and that information is "proprietary and not given" and are not required to full disclosure (other than the eight allergens)

"All Hershey products that contain "Natural Flavors" are considered not gluten free, is that correct"? YES

SHAME ON HERSHEY!!!!!

(Amanda, one finger for me!!)

Isn't it entirely TERRIFYING to think that these companies are putting "ingredients" in the foods we eat, and they have NO IDEA WHAT IS IN THEM??????????

Absolutely!!!! They should be held accountable.

Not buying Hershey products won't effect them unless you let them know why.

In our daily struggles with this disease, a "may or may not" answer is just not good enough for me. I can give up Cadberry Mini Eggs, but it's the principle here! This product either is gluten free or it is not, period!

I want the respect of an answer!

(thanks moongirl and patti for your contribution here , but I'm on a ramp!)

OK... Still awaiting a call from a supervisor, as I was not satisfied with the customer relation person, who was reading off of a script and my questions were not on the script.

Customer Relation Person:

Natural flavor is a natural product and is not symthetic based (I inquired further)

Not listed as a gluten free product ( I asked why and what categorized it as non-gluten free)

I was then transferd to a "busy" superviser and am awaiting their call. (yeah right)

I mentioned the 20,000 members here as well as my association with the CDFoundation and we have many, many inquiring minds!

It would be great if all available people would call and make similar inquiries:

The Hershey Company

1 (800) 468-1714

www.hersheys.com

any word yet?

I e-mailed yesterday and I am on the phone as we speak.

Welcome Molly,

Here are some links that might be helpful.

Here is some beginner information:

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Here is a list of companies who will clearly list all gluten (as in wheat, barley, malt and rye):

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The product section on this site has alot of gluten free information. Learning to read labels and contacting companies is the key to managing this crazy disease.

It will get easier.

You can test her again to see if her antibodies are at the normal level.

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You should know that in children, these test are not always reliable though.

I hope you find the source of her discomfort soon.