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What About The Gluten In Rice, Corn And Other Grains Than Wheat, Barley & Rye?


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mom0000 Newbie

Hello everybody!

 

I am a diagnosed celiac and trying to figure out the following:

 

To my understanding Gluten is a mixture of proteins and that most of the time it is largely composed of Prolamines and/or Glutelins.

 

Now I am being told that I have to avoid wheat, barley and rye as gluten is present, what I do understand as there is e.g. the Prolamine Gliadin in wheat.

 

But at the same time there is the Prolamine Zien in Corn and the Prolamine Orzenin in Rice and they are considered safe for celiacs. This does not make sense to me at all and I would hope that there is someone here who is able to explain it to me.

 

Background of the question is that I am trying to figure out what else I can do to get better as even though I am on a strictly gluten free diet, I am not feeling significantly better.

 

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

 

 


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cyclinglady Grand Master

Welcome!

How long have you bee gluten free?

mom0000 Newbie

1.5 years, strictly. 

mom0000 Newbie

I have been gluten free for 1.5 years and am extremely careful regarding possible cross contamination.

kareng Grand Master

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"Does corn contain gluten?

Numerous studies have failed to detect any immunogenicity by prolamines outside of wheat, barley, and rye. Therefore, corn doesn’t contain gluten, and neither do oats. Gluten is only found in the three orange boxes on the chart below. The term “corn gluten” is a misnomer, for it contains no gluten and is primarily used in animal feed or herbicides."

cyclinglady Grand Master

More dumb questions. Have you given up dairy? Identified other food intolerances? Have you been retested to see how well you have improved? Does your doctor have any ideas? Any other autoimmune disorders?

mom0000 Newbie

Dear cyclinlady, thanks for your comments but I would like this thread to be about answering the specific question above.

 

Thanks


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kareng Grand Master

Dear cyclinlady, thanks for your comments but I would like this thread to be about answering the specific question above.

 

Thanks

 

 

I think she was trying to help you figure out what is making you feel bad by asking about the more common issues we see on this forum.

 

I did answer your question about other grains. Look at the link, too.  I guess that is the end of this discussion?  :)

StephanieL Enthusiast

The word prolamine is a protein.  The proteins in wheat, rye and barley (specifically gliadin) cause people with Celiac to have an autoimmune reactions.  The proteins in corn and rice are not gliadin proteins and do not cause a reaction.  Different proteins.

 

Your response to Cyclinglady was pretty dismissive esp considering you are asking for help determining why you may be feeling poorly.  If you are not interested in other peoples thoughts, perhaps posting to a group isn't the right place for that question and you can contact your physician for more specifics. 

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foam Apprentice

Research phytic acid. It'll help you understand why these things make you sick. You'll soon see a list of foods that don't agree with you, in the exact order of how much they hurt you depending on how much phytic acid they contain. Coincidence? :P

w8in4dave Community Regular

If you are eating Rice and Oats, make sure they are gluten-free. Alot of grains are CC'd by equipment. Just because they are considered gluten-free naturally doesn't mean they are gluten-free. I had to start buying gluten-free rice. And I cannot even eat gluten-free oats. 

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