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Glutened Or Stomach Bug
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Hi all,

I was diagnosed about 5 years ago and as all of us do, I am diligent about being gluten free. Since I spent most of my undiagnosed life living with stomach upset, I developed the obsession of analyyzing the causes to hopefully find relief.

So now I find myself frustrated when I experience stomach upset - is it stress related, bad food, stomach bug or gluten??

Has anyone be able to determine the difference between any of these ailments???

Any thoughts or theories would be greatly appreciated!

THANKS - Janet

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i had been going through the same concerns this past week. i got glutened on last monday..and was sick with that for a couple days. then i was sick again just a day later and i was so worried. i had never had gluten symptoms last that long and i began to question if i had another health issue. the symptoms are so similar it is hard to tell a difference. when i am glutened i will have the upset stomach symptoms, fatigue and brain fog...when i have a stomach bug, almost identical.

i have decided that if i cant figure out what i could have eaten or if it last longer than normal or i have a fever than i leave it at a stomach bug. also when im stressed i just get stomach pains that make it tough to eat instead of any if the more severe symptoms.

maybe others have more insight though. i certainly hope so because earlier this week i felt so awful i was beginning to think i was going to have to go get my gall bladder removed or something. luckily it hasnt actually come to that

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Good question!

I have a mast cell disorder that causes mild abdominal pain and nausea, even on a gluten-free, dairy-free, corn-free diet. A few weeks ago I thought I was either having a flare-up or had been glutened... turned out to be the stomach flu!! :( It took a couple of days from the onset of my symptoms (stomach pain that woke me up at night) to the point where I insisted on a visit to the urgent care clinic... and then another week or so for the stomach pain to disappear. Some anti-nausea medication helped a lot :)

As long as you're not dehydrated, running a high fever, or in horrible pain... and it doesn't last for more than a few days... then I wouldn't worry too much about it. Otherwise I would give your PCP a call (or go to the ER if it's really bad). Just my two cents.

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I had a bug this weekend. Man, the stomach pain! Pepto helped me to finally sleep. I had made a new food but all my ingredients were good. I finally deduced it was a bug but it is so hard to tell. I have been eating the leftovers for the last two days with no fallout. So flu bug it was.

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quite honestly, most of the time, you can't. at the least, you can't be certain.

what I do when I get intestinal issues that are possibly consistent with gluten contamination, I review what's gone into my body over the past two days. could anything have been contaminated? if so, I just make a mental note to be aware of what it was. (if it's cross-contamination in an eating setting, I make sure to be more aware. if it's a product, I make a note to check into it and be aware the next time I eat it how I react.)

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When I eat gluten I get very tired and break out with a rash. The only reason I would care what caused it is to eliminate what got me sick from my diet.

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