Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Confused Please Help


suecosgrove

Recommended Posts

suecosgrove Newbie

I have had constant nausea since christman. My gastroenterologist did an endoscope and colonoscomy. He said the biopsy in my dude emu showed damage and told me I had celiac disease. He also did a genetic test on me that day. Now three weeks later and much money invested in gluten-free items he calls and says My test is negative. What does this even mean??


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



cavernio Enthusiast

So he called and said your genetic test was negative? Or was he saying he was actually wrong about your duodenum being damaged?

If he had your duodenum test wrong, or accidentally messed up your results with someone else's or something, then you don't have celiac disease.

If he called and said your genetic test was negative, I would still think you have celiac disease.

Most, not all, people with celiac disease apparently have a specific genetic problem that makes them prone to getting it. However, there exist people who do not have that gene/set of genes who still do develop celiac disease. IIRC, the wikipedia article actually says only 90% of people have the standard 'celiac' gene. They also list a couple of other genes that are known to cause celiac disease. I wouldn't be surprised if the lab/doctors didn't bother testing for those less common genes. (I'm actually rather surprised they did genetic tests for you at all, my doctors won't do that for me, even though I've asked about getting it.)

However, there's still the possibility you don't have celiac disease. There's something called tropical sprue which manifests like celiac disease in that it causes your villi in your intestines to disappear/become damaged, but which I don't believe is caused by gluten. The prognosis for that is not good however, they know even less about that than celiac disease.

Do you feel better not eating gluten? If the answer is at all yes, then you should continue being gluten free. Well, you should continue being gluten free regardless.

There's also a possibility that you have a candida problem. Note that intestinal candida is not a diagnosis most doctors think exist. Or they only think it exists in very sick people like AIDS patients.

Talk to the doctor again if you can.

dilettantesteph Collaborator

There are some genes recognized to cause celiac disease in Europe which are not tested for here. A negative genetic test doesn't mean that you don't have the disease. See if your symptoms clear up on the gluten free diet. If you eat more whole foods (produce and meat) it is less expensive and more healthy.

Bubba's Mom Enthusiast

In a lot of the literature they say DQ2 and DQ8 are the Celiac genes. Many dr.s thing they can rule out Celiac if you don't have those. They have found there are other genes that also can mean Celiac.

Since you have the damage in your duodenum, it would be a good idea for you to stay gluten-free.

Soo..did the Dr. say what caused your damage if it's not celiac?

Kansas Rookie

I tested negative to the gene testing, but definitely am gluten intolerant. I agree with the others, if you feel better without gluten, stay on the diet.

mushroom Proficient

If you are biopsy positive, you are celiac. Period. Doesn't matter a hoot about the genes. :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - Aretaeus Cappadocia posted a topic in Gluten-Free Recipes & Cooking Tips
      0

      Pear Bread

    2. - Aretaeus Cappadocia commented on Amiah's blog entry in Amiah
      2

      Help!!

    3. - knitty kitty replied to Jmartes71's topic in Doctors
      12

      Second chance

    4. - Mari replied to Jmartes71's topic in Doctors
      12

      Second chance

    5. - trents replied to anya22's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      Test interpretations

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,679
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    rbpollack19
    Newest Member
    rbpollack19
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Aretaeus Cappadocia
      I adapted this to be a gluten-free recipe from www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/autumn-pear-bread. Wonderful flavor profile, great texture, fairly easy to make. The almond flavor from the almond flour complements the pear flavor. Ingredients 1 cup almond flour 1 cup sweet rice flour 1 cup millet flour 2 Tablespoons tapioca flour 1 cup sugar 1 ½ teaspoon baking powder 1 teaspoon baking soda 3/4 teaspoon salt 1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg 6 tablespoons cold butter 3 large eggs, room temperature 3/8 cup buttermilk (1 tsp white vinegar + 3/8 cup milk) 2 teaspoon vanilla extract 1 ½ cup finely chopped ripe pears (1-2 med/large pears. You could peel them but I don't) Directions (optional) cut butter into pats, place on saucer in the refrigerator while prepping other ingredients In large bowl, combine flour, sugar, baking powder, baking soda, salt and nutmeg. (I use a whisk to mix) Cut in butter until mixture resembles coarse crumbs. (I use pastry blender) Combine eggs, buttermilk and vanilla (I use same whisk); stir into flour mixture just until moistened. (I use a mixing spoon) Fold in pears. (mixing spoon) Spoon into 2 greased 5 x 8 inch loaf pans Bake at 350° for 35-40 minutes or until toothpick inserted in center comes out clean. Cool for 10 minutes before removing from pans on to wire rack. Allow to cool completely. Not sure how long you can keep this at room temperature because it gets eaten quickly
    • knitty kitty
      @Jmartes71, I understand how frustrated you feel.  I have been disappointed with the medical system myself.  Have you read my story in my blog?   What can we do to help you get better?   Nutritional deficiencies are common in Celiac disease.  Have you been checked for vitamin and mineral deficiencies?   Which supplements are you taking?
    • Mari
      hi jmartes This is a link you can click on to see a form to fill out to obtain medical records from Kaiser. If you have already submitted this form  you could send in another one. . The form asks for your MR# and please remember to put in the name you were using before you were married.      How to Request Copies of Medical Record from Kaiser Permanente Form - Fill Out and Sign Printable PDF Template | airSlate SignNow
    • trents
      It would seem then that your next step should be a biopsy to check for damage to the villous lining of the small bowel. But you must not reduce gluten intake until that is performed else healing will take place in that area of the intestines and the biopsy results would be invalidated. 
    • knitty kitty
      Welcome, @anya22, Can you tell us more about your diet?   How much gluten containing foods did you eat?  What kinds of gluten containing foods did you eat?  What has your high calorie diet consisted of?   Some gluten containing foods contain less gluten than others.  Cakes and cookies may have less gluten than something like deep dish pizza.   Glad you're here!
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.