Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):
  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Well...it's Official.


mommy2krj

Recommended Posts

mommy2krj Explorer

Or mostly official. The biopsies did come back negative but the GI doc said given the scalloping in his intestines and the positive blood test to try a strict gluten free diet for the next 3.5 months and we'll see her in October to see how things are going.

So a strict diet it is. I am relieved to have some direction. She did take more blood to run the EMA IgA tests (again, why don't they do this all at the same time?!?!) and also is running the genetics test for the DQ2 and DQ8 genes.

We had rice noodles tonight for our spaghetti and some gluten free crunchy breadsticks from Schar....my 15 year old was surprised that everything was gluten free. :) He liked it all...well..the spaghetti sauce wasn't a big hit but it was a jarred organic/gluten-free sauce and we usually make our own so it was....different. I bought some brownie mix and may go get some cupcake mix so I can make some gluten-free stuff little man can have for my daughter's graduation party...so we'll give those a try and see how they are. I just didn't feel like doing anything fancy tonight. Now I need to go grocery shopping. Hopefully I can get over the sticker shock.

I did get copies of the pathology and blood  work results...but haven't really had a chance to look them over. They did give me a nice binder full of information....I'll have to look through it and see how informative it is. The nutritionist was lovely. I think she was a bit relieved that we had already been on a whole foods path and that I had been researching the heck out of this. :) She pretty much left her door open if I need help with anything and had some lovely pointers about local stores I didn't know existed. :)

The GI doc was wonderful too. Explained everything in detail and answered all my questions....she even drew me a nice little picture to help me understand what and where and how with the scalloping. I am so glad I have access to such a wonderful doctor.....even if her Polish accent makes her difficult for my American brain to understand all the time. She made sure I was understanding. :)


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



powerofpositivethinking Community Regular

so glad you've got a plan!!

greenbeanie Enthusiast

Good! It's great that you found a helpful doctor. I hope you see quick improvements!

nvsmom Community Regular

Good plan.  :)

 

Just a warning about the EMA IgA, it seems to detect more advanced damage to the intestine. The EMA basically kicks in after the villi have been damaged and tries to wipe out the top layer of the intestines in an effort to eradicate whatever was damaging them in the first place (as I understand it) - it's not exactly logical, is it?  Anyway, the EMA is rarely positive in kids so don't be surprised if you get a negative result.

 

good luck!

blmoreschi Apprentice

Good luck - we're about to mark 3 months since diagnosis and I vividly remember how you're feeling. Overwhelmed mostly! But 3 months in it certainly is less overwhelming and I've even gotten immune to the cost aspect. Once I started thinking of it as a medical necessity I didn't mind spending the money. Also, you won't have to make THAT many changes at home - I've found that just by making my kitchen gluten free and having the right ingredients we are still eating mostly like we did before. I cook a lot from scratch anyway, so just making sure all the ingredients are gluten-free and then we're good to go is our approach. Your homemade sauce should be fine once you make your kitchen gluten safe! Eating out is a lot scarier and harder, but do yourself a favor and try not to eat out for a few weeks until you have a handle on things. And you'll get more confident asking for special treatment the more sure you are of what you need. Good luck, and hang in there!

mommy2krj Explorer

Good luck - we're about to mark 3 months since diagnosis and I vividly remember how you're feeling. Overwhelmed mostly! But 3 months in it certainly is less overwhelming and I've even gotten immune to the cost aspect. Once I started thinking of it as a medical necessity I didn't mind spending the money. Also, you won't have to make THAT many changes at home - I've found that just by making my kitchen gluten free and having the right ingredients we are still eating mostly like we did before. I cook a lot from scratch anyway, so just making sure all the ingredients are gluten-free and then we're good to go is our approach. Your homemade sauce should be fine once you make your kitchen gluten safe! Eating out is a lot scarier and harder, but do yourself a favor and try not to eat out for a few weeks until you have a handle on things. And you'll get more confident asking for special treatment the more sure you are of what you need. Good luck, and hang in there!

Thank you! :) It's definitely good to know it will be less overwhelming down the road. I feel more pulled together now that we actually have some answers and a definitive go gluten free. It's also nice to hear from someone that was already cooking a lot from scratch....we don't do a lot of processed foods but I was worried about the noodles. We'll just be eating them a little less, which is ok too. Little man is going through corn tortillas like they're water so I'm definitely going to have to find a good recipe for those.

We don't eat out very often at all to begin with....not with two boys that eat like they have never been fed! ;)

mommy2krj Explorer

Good plan.   :)

 

Just a warning about the EMA IgA, it seems to detect more advanced damage to the intestine. The EMA basically kicks in after the villi have been damaged and tries to wipe out the top layer of the intestines in an effort to eradicate whatever was damaging them in the first place (as I understand it) - it's not exactly logical, is it?  Anyway, the EMA is rarely positive in kids so don't be surprised if you get a negative result.

 

good luck!

Thanks for the heads up on that. I didn't know that....she just said it was a more sensitive test and that the DGP one was generally just used for very young children. Hmmmm....guess we'll see what happens there.


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



stanleymonkey Explorer

Having to go gluten-free turned out to be a blessing in disguise for us, we had to change some of the things we ate, and making them gluten-free meant less processed things, my 4 yr old will eat things that her friends won't touch. We tend to make as much as possible from scratch then we know itvs safe, and she seems to like the food more. Reading labels I found out what was in some of our food, yikes!

If you want god safe rice noodles Vietnamese dry rice noodles are good. The factories that make them tend only to make all the different thickness of noodles, and nothing else. Keep away from Japanese rice noodles they always add wheat, dried Chinese tend to be safe, but fresh Chinese rice noodles can sometimes have wheat flour they sprinkle it's on them so they don't stick together

GottaSki Mentor

Thank you! :) It's definitely good to know it will be less overwhelming down the road. I feel more pulled together now that we actually have some answers and a definitive go gluten free. It's also nice to hear from someone that was already cooking a lot from scratch....we don't do a lot of processed foods but I was worried about the noodles. We'll just be eating them a little less, which is ok too. Little man is going through corn tortillas like they're water so I'm definitely going to have to find a good recipe for those.

We don't eat out very often at all to begin with....not with two boys that eat like they have never been fed! ;)

 

If you already know how to cook...you know how to cook gluten-free.  Don't worry about noodles...substitute rice, corn, quinoa -- or combo....you've got this.

 

Hang in there :)

Mom-of-Two Contributor

My daughter DID have positive EMA, but normal biopsy! Go figure :)

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - SilkieFairy replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    2. - Wheatwacked replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      50

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

    3. - knitty kitty replied to catnapt's topic in Celiac Disease Pre-Diagnosis, Testing & Symptoms
      4

      results from 13 day gluten challenge - does this mean I can't have celiac?

    4. - knitty kitty replied to Scott Adams's topic in Post Diagnosis, Recovery & Treatment of Celiac Disease
      50

      Supplements for those Diagnosed with Celiac Disease

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      133,359
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Atlanta GF
    Newest Member
    Atlanta GF
    Joined
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.6k
    • Total Posts
      1m
  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):
  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • SilkieFairy
      I am doing a gluten challenge right now and I bought vital wheat gluten so I can know exactly how much gluten I am getting. One tablespoon is 7g so 1½ tablespoons of Vital Wheat Gluten per day will get you to 10g You could add it to bean burgers as a binder or add to hot chocolate or apple sauce and stir. 
    • Wheatwacked
      Raising you vitamin D will increase absorption of calcium automatically without supplementation of calcium.  A high PTH can be caused by low D causing poor calcium absorption; not insuffient calcium intake.  With low D your body is not absorbing calcium from your food so it steals it from your bones.  Heart has priority over bone. I've been taking 10,000 IU D3 a day since 2015.  My doctor says to continue. To fix my lactose intolerance, lots of lactobacillus from yogurts, and brine fermented pickles and saurkraut and olives.  We lose much of our ability to make lactase endogenosly with maturity but a healthy colony of lactobacillus in our gut excretes lactase in exchange for room and board. The milk protein in grass fed milk does not bother me. It tastes like the milk I grew up on.  If I drink commercial milk I get heartburn at night. Some experts estimate that 90% of us do not eat Adequite Intake of choline.  Beef and eggs are the principle source. Iodine deficiency is a growing concern.  I take 600 mcg a day of Liquid Iodine.  It and NAC have accelerated my healing all over.  Virtually blind in my right eye after starting antihypertensive medication and vision is slowly coming back.  I had to cut out starches because they drove my glucose up into the 200+ range.  I replaced them with Red Bull for the glucose intake with the vitamins, minerals and Taurine needed to process through the mitochodria Krebs Cycle to create ATP.  Went from A1c 13 down to 7.9.  Work in progress. Also take B1,B2,B3,B5,B6. Liquid Iodine, Phosphatidyl Choline, Q10, Selenium, D and DHEA.     Choline supplemented as phosphatidylcholine decreases fasting and postmethionine-loading plasma homocysteine concentrations in healthy men +    
    • knitty kitty
      @catnapt, Wheat germ has very little gluten in it.  Gluten is  the carbohydrate storage protein, what the flour is made from, the fluffy part.  Just like with beans, there's the baby plant that will germinate  ("germ"-inate) if sprouted, and the bean part is the carbohydrate storage protein.   Wheat germ is the baby plant inside a kernel of wheat, and bran is the protective covering of the kernel.   Little to no gluten there.   Large amounts of lectins are in wheat germ and can cause digestive upsets, but not enough Gluten to provoke antibody production in the small intestines. Luckily you still have time to do a proper gluten challenge (10 grams of gluten per day for a minimum of two weeks) before your next appointment when you can be retested.    
    • knitty kitty
      Hello, @asaT, I'm curious to know whether you are taking other B vitamins like Thiamine B1 and Niacin B3.  Malabsorption in Celiac disease affects all the water soluble B vitamins and Vitamin C.  Thiamine and Niacin are required to produce energy for all the homocysteine lowering reactions provided by Folate, Cobalamine and Pyridoxine.   Weight gain with a voracious appetite is something I experienced while malnourished.  It's symptomatic of Thiamine B1 deficiency.   Conversely, some people with thiamine deficiency lose their appetite altogether, and suffer from anorexia.  At different periods on my lifelong journey, I suffered this, too.   When the body doesn't have sufficient thiamine to turn food, especially carbohydrates, into energy (for growth and repair), the body rations what little thiamine it has available, and turns the carbs into fat, and stores it mostly in the abdomen.  Consuming a high carbohydrate diet requires additional thiamine to process the carbs into energy.  Simple carbohydrates (sugar, white rice, etc.) don't contain thiamine, so the body easily depletes its stores of Thiamine processing the carbs into fat.  The digestive system communicates with the brain to keep eating in order to consume more thiamine and other nutrients it's not absorbing.   One can have a subclinical thiamine insufficiency for years.  A twenty percent increase in dietary thiamine causes an eighty percent increase in brain function, so the symptoms can wax and wane mysteriously.  Symptoms of Thiamine insufficiency include stunted growth, chronic fatigue, and Gastrointestinal Beriberi (diarrhea, abdominal pain), heart attack, Alzheimer's, stroke, and cancer.   Thiamine improves bone turnover.  Thiamine insufficiency can also affect the thyroid.  The thyroid is important in bone metabolism.  The thyroid also influences hormones, like estrogen and progesterone, and menopause.  Vitamin D, at optimal levels, can act as a hormone and can influence the thyroid, as well as being important to bone health, and regulating the immune system.  Vitamin A is important to bone health, too, and is necessary for intestinal health, as well.   I don't do dairy because I react to Casein, the protein in dairy that resembles gluten and causes a reaction the same as if I'd been exposed to gluten, including high tTg IgA.  I found adding mineral water containing calcium and other minerals helpful in increasing my calcium intake.   Malabsorption of Celiac affects all the vitamins and minerals.  I do hope you'll talk to your doctor and dietician about supplementing all eight B vitamins and the four fat soluble vitamins because they all work together interconnectedly.  
    • Florence Lillian
      Hi Jane: You may want to try the D3 I now take. I have reactions to fillers and many additives. Sports Research, it is based in the USA and I have had no bad reactions with this brand. The D3 does have coconut oil but it is non GMO, it is Gluten free, Soy free, Soybean free and Safflower oil free.  I have a cupboard full of supplements that did not agree with me -  I just keep trying and have finally settled on Sports Research. I take NAKA Women's Multi full spectrum, and have not felt sick after taking 2 capsules per day -  it is a Canadian company. I buy both from Amazon. I wish you well in your searching, I know how discouraging it all is. Florence.  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.