Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Joint Pain (New To Me)


whtswrongwithme32

Recommended Posts

whtswrongwithme32 Apprentice

Anyone else have joint pain? I think it is joints..not sure...its my neck bone, my shoulders, my wrists, elbows, and tail bone. They make this crunching sound when I move and they hurt. Any suggestions for natural ways to ease the pain? It's only on the right side. I am trying to move on with my life and act like none of my symptoms happened. I guess that is hard when they keep happening though. It's funny to me that I am actually eager to see the doc on Thursday and get tests so I can move on with life...whatever that may mean. Since I have symtpoms IF my test results come back neg...should I still see what happens to me and go off glueten? Grandpa had celiac, Mom had classic childhood symptoms and some adult symptoms as well. She passed away due to a cancer that started in her lymphnodes (she didn't know until it had spread to many other organs) back in 2005. I am noticing that my problems are food related I just have not been able to pinpoint what yet. What stage of the waiting game are you all in?

 

                              me 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



klisja Rookie

Yes food intolerance in general can cause joint pain. I usually have joint pain on my left side (but both knees). I was six months recovering from a sprained wrist, or untill I took some food out and just days later the wrist was fine.

Sometimes elimination is all you can do, if all tests are fine.

SMRI Collaborator

Take some Advil or similar.  Suffering with joint pain just makes everything else worse.  Your quality of life is deminished and walking or moving differently can cause other problems down the road.

GF Lover Rising Star

Sometimes it is just "getting old" or "high humidity" or just because they hurt today.  If you test negative for Celiac, there is no reason whatsoever not to go Gluten Free if you feel it will help you.  We all have the right to eat any way we want.  

 

Colleen

bartfull Rising Star

Nightshade veggies (potatoes, tomatoes, peppers and eggplant) can cause or worsen joint pain in some people. I right now am suffering from joint pains because when they had a ten pound bag of potatoes on sale for $3.49,  I bought them. I have to eat them before they go bad so I have had them for every meal. I KNOW better, but they taste so good. When they're gone I'll go back to eating mostly rice with only two or three potatoes a week for variety, and the joint pains will go away.

whtswrongwithme32 Apprentice

Thanks bartfull.

whtswrongwithme32 Apprentice

P.S. I am only 32. I doubt "I am getting old". ;) 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



bartfull Rising Star

Give it a minute. It seems about three weeks ago I was in my 30's. Then I woke up one morning and I was 60! :o

Cara in Boston Enthusiast

I thought all my symptoms were due to "getting old" . . . after being diagnosed (got tested only because my son was diagnosed) and going gluten free, no more aches and pains, daily headaches, brain fog, fatigue, etc.  It was like I turned back time 10-15 years.

 

Joint pain was not one of my major symptoms then, but now, if I accidentally  ingest gluten, that is the first thing and it lasts a couple of days.  

 

Once testing is complete, try the diet, regardless of your test results.  

eers03 Explorer

I had the same problem.  I took osteo biflex for about a month and noticed a difference.  Maybe it would help.  It's an OTC supplement.  Good luck.

Tomislav Newbie

I wouldn't like to scare you, but as you described the problem with the pain in your joints, those symptoms might also indicate rheumatoid arthritis which is a predisposition for people that have the Celiac gene( i'm not quite sure if you have it or not ). Celiac disease and rheumatoid arthritis have similar symptoms, so if you are gluten sensitive and have been diagnosed with Celiac disease u may also manifest rheumatoid arthritis,so I suggest you should do the blood test and endoscopy, if the blood test is negative and everything is fine and the pain in the joints still continues, i suggest you should get tested for Rheumatoid arthritis. 

cyclinglady Grand Master

I wouldn't like to scare you, but as you described the problem with the pain in your joints, those symptoms might also indicate rheumatoid arthritis which is a predisposition for people that have the Celiac gene( i'm not quite sure if you have it or not ). Celiac disease and rheumatoid arthritis have similar symptoms, so if you are gluten sensitive and have been diagnosed with Celiac disease u may also manifest rheumatoid arthritis,so I suggest you should do the blood test and endoscopy, if the blood test is negative and everything is fine and the pain in the joints still continues, i suggest you should get tested for Rheumatoid arthritis.

Yes, people with celiac disease can develop RA, diabetes type 1, lupus, thyroiditis, etc. since there is strong evidence that when you get one autoimmune disorder, you can get more! But joint pain can resolve on a gluten-free diet for many. For others they may be tested for RA if symptoms do not resolve with a gluten free diet (celiac disease healing).

  • 1 month later...
kellysensei Apprentice

My blood test last February came back negative for Celiac, but I switched to a gluten-free diet anyway because I'd been having some bad joint pain in my hands and wrists. Lo and behold, the pain went away within three days of being gluten-free. Twice since then I've unknowingly eaten gluten, and both times I ended up with joint pain again that lasted up to ten days. I keep seeing all these articles and videos lately basically saying a gluten sensitivity doesn't exist, but since gluten sure seems to give me pain, I will continue to avoid it for now.

cyclinglady Grand Master

Good for you, Kelly! I am glad you are feeling better.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Celiac.com:
    Join eNewsletter
    Donate

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):
    Celiac.com Sponsor (A17):





    Celiac.com Sponsors (A17-M):




  • Recent Activity

    1. - cristiana replied to Scatterbrain's topic in Sports and Fitness
      5

      Feel like I’m starting over

    2. - knitty kitty replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      8

      My only proof

    3. - Wheatwacked replied to Jmartes71's topic in Coping with Celiac Disease
      8

      Related issues

    4. - NanceK replied to Jmartes71's topic in Related Issues & Disorders
      8

      My only proof


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,297
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Pam PA
    Newest Member
    Pam PA
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • cristiana
      Hi @Scatterbrain Thank you for your reply.   Some of these things could be weaknesses, also triggered by stress, which perhaps have come about as the result of long-term deficiencies which can take a long time to correct.   Some could be completely unrelated. If it is of help, I'll tell you some of the things that started in the first year or two, following my diagnosis - I pinned everything on coeliac disease, but it turns out I wasn't always right!  Dizziness, lightheaded - I was eventually diagnosed with cervical dizziness (worth googling, could be your issue too, also if you have neck pain?)  A few months after diagnosis I put my neck out slightly carrying my seven-year-old above my head, and never assigned any relevance to it as the pain at the time was severe but so short-lived that I'd forgotten the connection. Jaw pain - stress. Tinnitus - I think stress, but perhaps exacerbated by iron/vitamin deficiencies. Painful ribs and sacroiliac joints - no idea, bloating made the pain worse. It got really bad but then got better. Irregular heart rate - could be a coincidence but my sister (not a coeliac) and I both developed this temporarily after our second Astra Zeneca covid jabs.   Subsequent Pfizer jabs didn't affect us. Brain fog - a big thing for people with certain autoimmune issues but in my case I think possibly worse when my iron or B12 are low, but I have no proof of this. Insomnia - stress, menopause. So basically, it isn't always gluten.  It might be worth having your vitamins and mineral levels checked, and if you have deficiencies speak to your Dr about how better to address them?    
    • knitty kitty
      @NanceK, I do have Hypersensitivity Type Four reaction to Sulfa drugs, a sulfa allergy.  Benfotiamine and other forms of Thiamine do not bother me at all.  There's sulfur in all kinds of Thiamine, yet our bodies must have it as an essential nutrient to make life sustaining enzymes.  The sulfur in thiamine is in a ring which does not trigger sulfa allergy like sulfites in a chain found in pharmaceuticals.  Doctors are not given sufficient education in nutrition (nor chemistry in this case).  I studied Nutrition before earning a degree in Microbiology.  I wanted to know what vitamins were doing inside the body.   Thiamine is safe and nontoxic even in high doses.   Not feeling well after starting Benfotiamine is normal.  It's called the "thiamine paradox" and is equivalent to an engine backfiring if it's not been cranked up for a while.  Mine went away in about three days.  I took a B Complex, magnesium and added molybdenum for a few weeks. It's important to add a B Complex with all eight essential B vitamins. Supplementing just one B vitamin can cause lows in some of the others and result in feeling worse, too.  Celiac Disease causes malabsorption of all the B vitamins, not just thiamine.  You need all eight.  Thiamine forms including Benfotiamine interact with each of the other B vitamins in some way.  It's important to add a magnesium glycinate or chelate supplement as well.  Forms of Thiamine including Benfotiamine need magnesium to make those life sustaining enzymes.  (Don't use magnesium oxide.  It's not absorbed well.  It pulls water into the intestines and is used to relieve constipation.)   Molybdenum is a trace mineral that helps the body utilize forms of Thiamine.   Molybdenum supplements are available over the counter.  It's not unusual to be low in molybdenum if low in thiamine.   I do hope you will add the necessary supplements and try Benfotiamine again. Science-y Explanation of Thiamine Paradox: https://hormonesmatter.com/paradoxical-reactions-with-ttfd-the-glutathione-connection/#google_vignette
    • Wheatwacked
      Your goal is not to be a good puppet, there is no gain in that. You might want to restart the ones that helped.  It sounds more like you are suffering from malnutrition.  Gluten free foods are not fortified with things like Thiamine (B1), vitamin D, Iodine, B1,2,3,5,6 and 12 as non-gluten free products are required to be. There is a Catch-22 here.  Malnutrition can cause SIBO, and SIBO can worsen malnutrition. Another possibility is side effects from any medication that are taking.  I was on Metformin 3 months before it turned me into a zombi.  I had crippling side effects from most of the BP meds tried on me, and Losartan has many of the side effects on me from my pre gluten free days. Because you have been gluten free, you can test and talk until you are blue in the face but all of your tests will be negative.  Without gluten, you will not create the antigen against gluten, no antigens to gluten, so no small intestine damage from the antigens.  You will need to do a gluten challange to test positive if you need an official diagnosis, and even then, no guaranty: 10 g of gluten per day for 6 weeks! Then a full panel of Celiac tests and biopsy. At a minimum consider vitamin D, Liquid Iodine (unless you have dermatitis herpetiformis and iodine exasperates the rash), and Liquid Geritol. Push for vitamin D testing and a consult with a nutritionist experienced with Celiack Disease.  Most blood tests don't indicate nutritional deficiencies.  Your thyroid tests can be perfect, yet not indicate iodine deficiency for example.  Thiamine   test fine, but not pick up on beriberi.  Vegans are often B12 deficient because meat, fish, poultry, eggs, and dairy are the primary souces of B12. Here is what I take daily.  10,000 IU vitamin D3 750 mg g a b a [   ] 200 mg CoQ10 [   ] 100 mg DHEA [   ] 250 mg thiamine B1 [   ] 100 mg of B2 [   ] 500 mg B5 pantothenic acid [   ] 100 mg B6 [   ] 1000 micrograms B12 n [   ] 500 mg vitamin c [   ] 500 mg taurine [   ] 200 mg selenium   
    • NanceK
      Hi…Just a note that if you have an allergy to sulfa it’s best not to take Benfotiamine. I bought a bottle and tried one without looking into it first and didn’t feel well.  I checked with my pharmacist and he said not to take it with a known sulfa allergy. I was really bummed because I thought it would help my energy level, but I was thankful I was given this info before taking more of it. 
    • Wheatwacked
      Hello @Scatterbrain, Are you getting enough vitamins and minerals.  Gluten free food is not fortified so you may be starting to run low on B vitamins and vitamin D.   By the way you should get your mom checked for celiac disease.  You got it from your mom or dad.  Some studies show that following a gluten-free diet can stabilize or improve symptoms of dementia.  I know that for the 63 years I was eating gluten I got dumber and dumber until I started GFD and vitamin replenishment and it began to reverse.  Thiamine can get used up in a week or two.  Symptoms can come and go with daily diet.  Symptoms of beriberi due to Thiamine deficiency.   Difficulty walking. Loss of feeling (sensation) in hands and feet. Loss of muscle function or paralysis of the lower legs. Mental confusion. Pain. Speech difficulties. Strange eye movements (nystagmus) Tingling. Any change in medications? Last March I had corotid artery surgery (90 % blockage), and I started taking Losartan for blood pressure, added to the Clonidine I was taking already.  I was not recovering well and many of my pre gluten free symptoms were back  I was getting worse.  At first I thought it was caused a reaction to the anesthesia from the surgery, but that should have improved after two weeks.  Doctor thought I was just being a wimp. After three months I talked to my doctor about a break from the Losartan to see if it was causing it. It had not made any difference in my bp.  Except for clonindine, all of the previous bp meds tried had not worked to lower bp and had crippling side effects. One, I could not stand up straight; one wobbly knees, another spayed feet.  Inguinal hernia from the Lisinopril cough.  Had I contiued on those, I was destined for a wheelchair or walker. She said the symptoms were not from Losartan so I continued taking it.  Two weeks later I did not have the strength in hips and thighs to get up from sitting on the floor (Help, I can't get up😨).  I stopped AMA (not recommended).  Without the Losartan, a) bp did not change, after the 72 hour withdrawal from Losartanon, on clonidine only and b) symptoms started going away.  Improvement started in 72 hours.  After six weeks they were gone and I am getting better.  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.