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knitwit Newbie

I wasn't going to post until after I have a diagnosis, but I've been reading the forums now for days and feel the need to say "hi."

 

Short story, I've had eczema my entire life (I'm over 50 now) and have basically learned to live with it.  Until a few weeks ago when I happened to google "rash on buttocks" and it led me to DH.  Add that to the odd rash on my arms (last winter) and the rash on my legs that I thought were bug bites (last summer) and it just all seemed to click.

 

I was at my GP two days later and she said I had an "uncommon" rash on my buttocks and sent me to the dermatologist for a biopsy.  I saw him two days ago, and he said "your rash looks like a common case of DH."  He did do a biopsy, so now I wait.

 

So now I wait, it's a bit odd and nerve wracking.  All the photos and my experiences tell me this is exactly what I've had all my life.  One dermatologist did test me for celiac using a blood test about 7 years ago when she said my rash looked like a celiac rash.  I was happy when it was negative.  Now I know that doesn't mean I actually was/am negative.

 

I'm feeling a bit conflicted right now, I almost rather have an actual positive diagnosis than just a wishy washy one.  

 

 


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mamaw Community Regular

If  you  get  dx'd  with  DH  you  must  remain gluten-free  for life ----- no need  to do  any other testing! 

LauraTX Rising Star
Welcome to the forum!  If it comes back that is is DH, we are glad to help you transition to a gluten-free diet.  Check out the newbie thread under our coping section, so you can arm yourself with some info before a transition is needed.  Let us know! :)
knitwit Newbie

Thank you both.  I have been doing tons of reading on this site and others.  It's pretty much a case of knowing/accepting that this probably is DH, and wondering what the biopsy will say.  I have learned so much already, the support I see here is wonderful.

squirmingitch Veteran

The huge question is...... did the derm take the biopsy from CLEAR skin ADJACENT to an active lesion? If not, then you will surely come up negative. So many derms do not know how to correctly do a biospy for dh and take the biopsy directly ON a lesion.

 

Let us know what the biopsy says. 

indianaharlegirl Newbie

Hi I just entered this world about a month ago. You can read my first few posts. I am not diagnosed and waiting for my apt with the Celiac Center at Univ of Chicago bc none of my doctors here seem to "get it" and they wanted to give me 4 creams and said it was eczema, wouldn't do the biopsy on these huge lesions and wouldn't order the whole blood test panel. I got the impression the derm was mad bc I knew a lot about what I thought was going on and I told her I didn't agree with her and that there is no "typical DH" and I literally have ever other symptom of Celiac. I also developed a horrible rash on FEB 5 and realized I had had this rash before and thought it was from shaving my legs or bug bites. The outbreak on FEB 5 was horrible and I ended up in the ER on iv steroids just to be able to breath bc I was just so anxious and dehydrated bc I couldn't eat without feeling sick either. I researched all night and found that I had ever symptom of Celiac and had for years down to being a very colicky baby prone to skin rashes !

 

Over the past month I have found that most drs don't know more than the 5 min they spent on this in med school and bc there is no pharmaceutical company behind it funding research they will probably remain uneducated. Thankfully the Celiac Center is less than an hour from my house and I can get there. I only took the steroids for two days until the itching calmed down. I hadn't been feeling good for a good 10 years and for a year had been really exhausted sleeping 12 hours a day and still tired. Right now I am still on gluten bc I don't have a dx and know the tests will be possibly false positive if I stop the gluten.  I did stop it for a week and was starting to feel better and the rash was going away but when I went back to it it has come back but not that bad.

 

All my friends and family don't understand why I want a dx and at first I didn't think I cared either but with as bad as I feel so sick and nauseated and dehydrated even tho I am drinking bottle after bottles of water I need to know it is celiac or at least not something else. I am anemic, low potassium and Vit D and my white count is high.  I have read all the literature and if you get a positive skin biopsy I wouldn't get the endo bc DH is only present if you are celiac.......Hang in there. I have bought several books on the gluten free diet and it doesn't seem that bad and some of the food has been really good. I am a lawyer and I mention this just bc I am a trained researcher esp about medical issues bc I do personal injury and worker's comp and like you after I started looking at this rash and thinking about all my health issues I have ever had the dx of Celiac just made sense. I am struggling bc right now I am just so tired and can't focus and worried about supporting my kids but I pray God takes care of me and you too and all of us !!

 

Crystal
 

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Hi , welcome to the forums.  :) 


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knitwit Newbie

The biopsy came back negative for DH but shows eczema.  Whatever....

 

I eat low-carb for my blood sugar, so not much wheat/gluten in the first place.  I kind of expected it to be negative.

 

I think it's wrong though.  I have a follow up appointment later in April, and I'm just going to eat my low carb diet, keep gluten to a minimum, but not panic over it (since I do not have a positive diagnosis.)  It will be interesting to see how things go.

 

It's very frustrating, no one wants such a horrible diagnois, but we all want answers.

 

Thanks for the support, I'll probably be "fading" away at this point.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

You might want to try being gluten free for at least a couple months rather than gluten light. If your rash is DH gluten light will not help as the antibodies will stay active. False negative are quite possible in testing for DH and you can't go by 7 year old negative tests to conclude that you are not celiac. 

You could consider going back on a regular gluten diet for 3 or 4 months and having the celiac panel done again but if you main issue is skin related you could still get a false negative. 

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