Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Well Thats It Then !


CurrantCottage

Recommended Posts

CurrantCottage Rookie

Well, I saw the Consultant today who went through my medical history and asked questions about my longstanding digestive problems.  I went through everything and mentioned my asthma/eczema/hives but she wasnt interested in that.  She asked lots of questions but said that she felt my fatigue and digestive problems were separate.  That my fatigue is linked to my low ferratin which is linked to having had four pregnancies and heavy periods and not ever having sorted out the low ferratin levels.  She said my digestive issues were linked to my gallbladder removal and prescribed me bile salts to aid my digestion and settle everything down.  She said I cant be coeliac because the blood test I had a year ago was comprehensive and is 98% accurate and its practically impossible to have a false negative so she wasnt going to do a biopsy.

 

I mentioned the nutritionist I'd seen and that I'd give up gluten for a month - felt better, then added it back it to see what happened and that my bloating/brain fog/cramps/tiredness etc came back.  She said that everyone was very quick to jump on the gluten free bandwagon these days and that what is usually to blame is the bread, it being a high Fodmap food with the yeast but as I'm a vegan she didnt recommend me cutting out any food as I already have a restricted diet and said I wasnt gluten sensitive.  

 

One thing to note - for a vegan although my ferritin is extremely low always, my red blood count is normal and my folate and b12 is good so I must be doing something right - also, its funny but I dont see my diet as restricted - I eat lots of things, just different to other people I guess!

 

Anyway she sent me for a blood test to check my Vitamin D and Cortisol just to see if they are low and said she'd see me in 8 weeks and would tell me the results of the blood test then.  Oh she also said she'd book me in for an iron infusion rather than issue more tablets.

 

i feel so embarrassed and like a hypochondriac - as if I've imagined all the side effects that I had since going back onto gluten - honestly, I felt like crawling under a rock I felt such a time waster especially as this doctor is a coeliac specialist!  Oh well, I guess I need to be thankful that I am well and dont have anything serious wrong, but i am going to cut bread out - I'm sick of stuffing gluten in so that I can get a biopsy done, no point now !

 

I do want to thank all of you lovely kind people on this forum who have been such a help and encouragement to me, I couldnt have got through these past 5 weeks without having somewhere to post questions or just read other peoples posts.

 

Thank you!

 

Ali

 

 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



kareng Grand Master

She could be right and it could be FODMAPS.  Wheat is a high FODMAP food.  So cutting it out cuts out a lot of the problems for many.  The good news, if that is the issue, is that you don't have to be super careful about being gluten-free.  You can go to a restaurant and not worry about the soy sauce - just don't get wheat based noodles, for example.

kareng Grand Master

And that doc doesn't know what FODMAPS are - yeast isn't the issue with bread.  Here is a nice easy and basic explanation:

 

Open Original Shared Link

beth01 Enthusiast

That really doesn't have to be it.  If you aren't happy with the answers you are getting, get a different doctor.  Just because you tested negative last year, doesn't mean you haven't started producing antibodies now.  It's not a test that if you test negative, you are negative forever, those numbers can change.  I hope you figure it out and get to feeling better soon.

ravenwoodglass Mentor

I agree you should get another celiac panel done. It doesn't have to be done by a GI doctor any doctor can order one. If you can't get anyone to test any further listen to your body.  I suppose you could try going gluten free again and then when you are feeling better maybe have soups with barley daily for a week or so to see if there is a reaction.That might tell you whether you have a gluten issue or not.

nvsmom Community Regular

I agree with everyone.  It could be FODMAPS, or it could still be (seronegative or early) celiac disease, or it could be non-celiac gluten sensitivity (NCGS) which affects somewhere between 5 and 20% of the world. 

 

If it is celiac disease, then retesting on all the tests is called for.  If it is FODMAPS, then avoiding those foods will help and it will also help with NCGS (and celiac disease) since you will be eating gluten-free on that diet too.  Open Original Shared Link I now find it funny that doctors are pushing the low fodmaps diet before the gluten-free diet because low fodmaps seems more restrictive than going gluten-free.... You think you'd try that first. 

 

Anyway, there is no test for NCGS except a positive response to the gluten-free diet.  Don't rule out NCGS yet - the symptoms are very real and are just as bad as those of a celiac, minus the intestinal damage.  Both are nasty.

 

Best wishes to you.  I hope you get feeling better soon.

CurrantCottage Rookie

A very belated "thank you" to all your replies and advice!  I've felt so upset by the consultant that I feel I've been hiding away!!!  She really wasnt interested in my issues as a whole the asthma, eczema etc along with the digestive issues, fatigue and low ferritin etc, she kept saying that they were all separate issues and not linked, I think what hurt me most was the fact that I was seeing her as a private patient so thought it would be different !!! Well, I've kept the status quo - eating gluten foods that is, I've got a stool sample to do (testing for colitis which I'm sure I dont have - abdominal pain and diarrhoea is not acute enough) and I've got to get the results of that and the cortisol and vitamin D blood tests in 7 weeks when I see her again.  I will wait and see what she says next time and I guess it makes sense to keep eating gluten until then and if she wants to think about a Fodmap diet then well, I will give it a go.

 

Thanks again!

 

Ali 


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      132,397
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Megannnnn
    Newest Member
    Megannnnn
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.5k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • Scott Adams
    • Scott Adams
      I had the same thing happen to me at around your age, and to this day it's the most painful experience I've ever had. For me it was the right side of my head, above my ear, running from my nerves in my neck. For years before my outbreak I felt a tingling sensation shooting along the exact nerves that ended up exactly where the shingles blisters appeared. I highly recommend the two shot shingles vaccine as soon as your turn 50--I did this because I started to get the same tingling sensations in the same area, and after the vaccines I've never felt that again.  As you likely know, shingles is caused by chicken pox, which was once though of as one of those harmless childhood viruses that everyone should catch in the wild--little did they know that it can stay in your nervous system for your entire life, and cause major issues as you age.
    • trents
    • Clear2me
      Thanks for the info. I recently moved to CA from Wyoming and in that western region the Costco and Sam's /Walmart Brands have many nuts and more products that are labeled gluten free. I was told it's because those products are packaged and processed  in different  plants. Some plants can be labeled  gluten free because the plant does not also package gluten products and they know that for example the trucks, containers equipment are not used to handle wheat, barely or Rye. The Walmart butter in the western region says gluten free but not here. Most of The Kirkland and Members Mark brands in CA say they are from Vietnam. That's not the case in Wyoming and Colorado. I've spoken to customer service at the stores here in California. They were not helpful. I check labels every time I go to the store. The stores where I am are a Sh*tshow. The Magalopoly grocery chain Vons/Safeway/Albertsons, etc. are the same. Fishers and Planters brands no longer say gluten free. It could be regional. There are nuts with sugar coatings and fruit and nut mixes at the big chains that are labeled gluten free but I don't want the fruit or sugar.  It's so difficult I am considering moving again. I thought it would be easier to find safe food in a more populated area. It's actually worse.  I was undiagnosed for most of my life but not because I didn't try to figure it out. So I have had all the complications possible. I don't have any spare organs left.  No a little gluten will hurt you. The autoimmune process continues to destroy your organs though you may not feel it. If you are getting a little all the time and as much as we try we probably all are and so the damage is happening. Now the FDA has pretty much abandoned celiacs. There are no requirements for labeling for common allergens on medications. All the generic drugs made outside the US are not regulated for common allergens and the FDA is taking the last gluten free porcine Thyroid med, NP Thyroid, off the market in 2026. I was being glutened by a generic levothyroxin. The insurance wouldn't pay for the gluten free brand any longer because the FDA took them all off their approved formulary. So now I am paying $147 out of pocket for NP Thyroid but shortly I will have no safe choice. Other people with allergies should be aware that these foreign generic pharmaceutical producers are using ground shellfish shell as pill coatings and anti-desicants. The FDA knows this but  now just waits for consumers to complain or die. The take over of Wholefoods by Amazon destroyed a very reliable source of good high quality food for people with allergies and for people who wanted good reliably organic food. Bezos thought  he could make a fortune off people who were paying alot for organic and allergen free food by substituting cheap brands from Thailand. He didn't understand who the customers were who were willing to pay more for that food and why. I went from spending hundreds to nothing because Bezo removed every single trusted brand that I was buying. Now they are closing Whole foods stores across the country. In CA, Mill Valley store (closed July 2025) and the National Blvd. store in West Los Angeles (closed October 2025). The Cupertino store will close.  In recent years I have learned to be careful and trust no one. I have been deleberately glutened in a restaurant that was my favorite (a new employee). The Chef owner was not in the kitchen that night. I've had  a metal scouring pad cut up over my food.The chain offered gluten free dishes but it only takes one crazy who thinks you're a problem as a food fadist. Good thing I always look. Good thing they didn't do that to food going to a child with a busy mom.  I give big tips and apologize for having to ask in restaurants but mental illness seem to be rampant. I've learn the hard way.          I don't buy any processed food that doesn't say gluten free.  I am a life long Catholic. I worked for the Church while at college. I don't go to Church anymore because the men at the top decided Jesus is gluten. The special hosts are gluten less not gluten free. No I can't drink wine after people with gluten in their mouth and a variety of deadly germs. I have been abandoned and excluded by my Church/Family.  Having nearly died several times, safe food is paramount. If your immune system collapses as mine did, you get sepsis. It can kill you very quickly. I spent 5 days unconscious and had to have my appendix and gall bladder removed because they were necrotic. I was 25. They didn't figure out I had celiac till I was 53. No one will take the time to tell you what can happen when your immune system gets overwhelmed from its constant fighting the gluten and just stops. It is miserable that our food is processed so carelessly. Our food in many aspects is not safe. And the merging of all the grocery chains has made it far worse. Its a disaster. Krogers also recently purchased Vitacost where I was getting the products I could no longer get at Whole Foods. Kroger is eliminating those products from Vitacost just a Bezos did from WF. I am looking for reliable and certified sources for nuts. I have lived the worst consequences of the disease and being exposed unknowingly and maliciously. Once I was diagnosed I learned way more than anyone should have to about the food industry.  I don't do gray areas. And now I dont eat out except very rarely.  I have not eaten fast food for 30 years before the celiac diagnosis. Gluten aside..... It's not food and it's not safe.  No one has got our backs. Sharing safe food sources is one thing we can do to try to be safe.        
    • Mmoc
      Thank you kindly for your response. I have since gotten the other type of bloods done and am awaiting results. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.