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Further Testing? DQ8 hetero gene and Symptoms resolved on gluten-free diet


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alex1234 Rookie

I recently found out I have the DQ8 hetero gene. Because my life was being affected so drastically, I discontinues eating gluten and have started to feel myself. about 90% of my symptoms have resolved during the past 2 weeks of eating gluten-free. Now, I need to decide whether I should continue with a gluten challenge and test for antibodies and do the endoscopy/biopsy. I am one that would be unsettled not knowing whether or not I have Celiac. Does anyone have advice on whether or not I should do a gluten challenge and do further testing to pursue a diagnosis?


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Victoria1234 Experienced
20 minutes ago, alex1234 said:

I am one that would be unsettled not knowing whether or not I have Celiac.

I believe you have answered your own question. You need to go back on gluten and schedule a full panel celiac blood test in 12 weeks. 1-2 pieces of bread per day is fine.

cyclinglady Grand Master

Read this about the benefits of having a celiac disease diagnosis.  It is written for doctors, but it is very useful.  

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alex1234 Rookie

Thank you both for the replies. The article is very insightful. Right now I am trying to reason with the thought of being miserable for 4-8 weeks to get a diagnosis. I feel so good right now it seems almost not worth it, but I also need to know if something is wrong and if there are potentially any other digestive system issues. I will likely go on a gluten challenge and deal with the side effects... after all, Thanksgiving is coming up ;)

Victoria1234 Experienced
1 hour ago, alex1234 said:

4-8 weeks

Pretty sure it's 12 weeks recommended by experts. Good luck to you!

cyclinglady Grand Master

The length in time can vary, but this leading celiac research center confirms 12 weeks.  You should be under a doctor’s care.

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alex1234 Rookie

Thank you Cyclinglady and Victoria1234

 

I would be curious to know if anyone has done the gluten challenge for say... 6-8 weeks and had either a positive or false negative result on the endoscopy/biopsy AND the Serology? It will work out best in regards to my insurance deductible to do less than 10 weeks. Thanks everyone!


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