Dental Problems

[selectivefocus]

How many people have dental issues associated with celiac? I had nice teeth up until my 2nd child was born. Thats also when most of my other symptoms exploded. My teeth are really bad now and while I think I have stopped some damage from continuing there's nothing they can do for a few of my teeth. It's seriously so depressing. I'm grateful for the celiac diagnosis because it was like ok, it's not just me, there was a reason my teeth went downhill so fast out of nowhere.

[Ennis-TX]

It has to due with some nutrient deficiency, bit like osteoporosis from my understanding. I have a book somewhere i need to dig out and get the list for you but damaged gut leads to malabosrobtion of certain nutrients related to bone and dental health leading to degrading dental health this can be further compacted by a more acidic mouth and or dry mouth that can come as secondary issues.

But yeah I brush a hour after each meal, mouthwash and floss....still have 3 cavities right now, 1 dead tooth, and a abscess around the root of one tooth that I have to keep taking herbal remedies for to keep it from getting infected (gets infected and fills up with pus if I stop, and recently got infected again and has cleared up again to clear fluid) Had the dang thing for over a year now.....just no dental coverage and no money.

[selectivefocus]

  On 2/21/2018 at 1:05 PM, Ennis_TX said:

It has to due with some nutrient deficiency, bit like osteoporosis from my understanding. I have a book somewhere i need to dig out and get the list for you but damaged gut leads to malabosrobtion of certain nutrients related to bone and dental health leading to degrading dental health this can be further compacted by a more acidic mouth and or dry mouth that can come as secondary issues.

But yeah I brush a hour after each meal, mouthwash and floss....still have 3 cavities right now, 1 dead tooth, and a abscess around the root of one tooth that I have to keep taking herbal remedies for to keep it from getting infected (gets infected and fills up with pus if I stop, and recently got infected again and has cleared up again to clear fluid) Had the dang thing for over a year now.....just no dental coverage and no money.

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I hear you. I had 2 molars pulled a couple years ago pre diagnosis for $100. But I have 3 teeth with major cavities currently and they're so bad I don't think they can save them. Honestly the only thing that has prevented further damage was being diagnosed obviously, but using Xyliwhite toothpaste. I had a back molar that was as you described with pus and infection, and the xylitol is better than conventional toothpaste at keeping bacteria away. They also have mouth wash. I also recommend Nutribiotic GSE in capsules or tablets.

I know the mechanism behind why it happens I just wish it didn't happen and I had nice teeth again  

[Ennis-TX]

  On 2/21/2018 at 1:18 PM, selectivefocus said:

I hear you. I had 2 molars pulled a couple years ago pre diagnosis for $100. But I have 3 teeth with major cavities currently and they're so bad I don't think they can save them. Honestly the only thing that has prevented further damage was being diagnosed obviously, but using Xyliwhite toothpaste. I had a back molar that was as you described with pus and infection, and the xylitol is better than conventional toothpaste at keeping bacteria away. They also have mouth wash. I also recommend Nutribiotic GSE in capsules or tablets.

I know the mechanism behind why it happens I just wish it didn't happen and I had nice teeth again  

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Xylitol gum also helps, but I am having to use a blend of EOs in a 2 different tooth paste mixed into a custom blend to fight it. Neem oil, tea tree oil, sweet orange oil, lemon oil, myurah oil, and begamoth oil with 2 different paste that also use oils, I just started this last week when it stopped responding to my old organo oil and garlic treatment that worked for the last half year.....it stopped responding to antibiotics last year also after 7 months....aggressive infection but it is gone again it seems. I even started a fund raiser to make money for the down payment for the surgery but only got $20 so far.

[Posterboy]

selectivefocus,

I actually mentioned this to my dentists about me having celiac disease and how that was probably contributing to my dental problems but it didn't seem to register.

Here is a good link to the Canandian Dental Associatoin site on a article meant to educate dentist about this fact.

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I printed out and took the celiac.com article to my doctor about italian study meant to educate dentists on the increased cavities in celiac's but he still would beat me up about my teeth.

here is the celiac.com article about this topic.

https://www.celiac.com/articles/23367/1/Dental-Enamel-Defects-Indicate-Adult-Celiac-Disease/Page1.html

it is worth noting the research team found 85+ percent of celiac's had some level of dental cavities or dental enamel defects as they termed them.

quoting

"The team classified enamel defects from grade 0 to 4 according to severity. They found dental enamel defects in 46 of the 54 patients (85.2%)."

Like you say it doesn't help us now but it might educate others still suffering who have not  made the association between their dental problems and their celiac diagnosis.

selectivefocus it is also worth noting to be on the look out for increased dental cavities in your kids.

medical news today reported that "stress in pregnancy may raise the risk of dental caries in offspring" (children) and why I think I have had dental issues from when I was a kid. 

here is the link to that research and confirms what you noticed. 

  On 2/21/2018 at 5:29 AM, selectivefocus said:

I had nice teeth up until my 2nd child was born.

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Really all my life that only got worse too  I found out about my celiac diagnosis in adulthood which by then was too late to do anything meaningful to undo the damage that had already been done.

here is a great thread about the pregnancy question where this topic is discussed in more detail.

here also is a great verywell article about the connection/associatoin between pregnancy and subsequent celiac diagnosis.

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where they say/summarize it well as you have noticed yourself.

I will quote from a notable section of the very well article. 

"First Comes Baby, Then Comes Symptoms

Most women are diagnosed with celiac disease after at least one pregnancy — in fact, a comprehensive Italian study published in 2010 on the reproductive effects of celiac found that 85.7% of women received their celiac diagnosis following their first pregnancy.

But that statistic doesn't necessarily mean anything. Many women have their first baby in their 20s or early 30s, and celiac disease diagnosis tends to occur a little later in life — in your late 30s, 40s or even 50s and beyond. Delays in diagnosis (even in Italy, which tends to be more celiac-aware than some other countries) could mean the women in the study actually had celiac long before they learned they did.

There's some evidence for this. Half of the celiac women in the study said they had experienced menstrual cycle disorders potentially linked to celiac disease before they experienced any other symptoms. And, women who eventually were diagnosed with celiac disease were twice as likely as other women to experience pregnancy complications, which also have been linked to celiac disease.

Both of these issues could indicate the women potentially were suffering from early, undiagnosed celiac disease at the time of their first pregnancies, but they and their doctors didn't recognize the symptoms."

now back to the education element of this.  As I like to say "To Educate is to truly Free".

so knowledge is power. . .the earlier we get our diagnois (awareness) there is of this connection the more dentist's will be aware of increased cavities in celiac and/or NCGS patients.  And hopefully our doctor's too because there is not enough awareness of this fact. . . that stress can cause/trigger a celiac diagnosis.

https://www.celiac.com/articles/23506/1/Stress-Common-Before-Celiac-Diagnosis/Page1.html

though my doctor seemed to listen better than my dentist . . . go figure.  my doctor did diagnosis though so not all is lost . . . but I had to prompt him  to look for it/test for it! LOL

 (though I doubt they will listen too you, they didn't  in my case . .  even when I brought materials for them to read about this topic (my dentist that is).

We don't want our patients knowing about their disease as much we do (apparently) some doctor's at least.  but not the good one's.  The good one's are learners.  they never stop learning.

I hope you have better luck!

the term is demineralization and often leads to pointed teeth or least that is when I become aware I was loosing my teeth strength from the inside out and chips in my enamel from an early adult.

I hope this is helpful.

Sorry I rambled soo much . . .

2 Tim 2:7 “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things” this included.

posterboy by the grace of God,

posterboy,