Psychosis Episode

[Tina77]

I wanted to know if anyone has had a kind of psychotic episode that last for a few minutes after being glutened? My symptoms are getting worse due to the fact that I feel the gluten is messing with my head. I recently got glutened and the next day as I was in the car as a passenger I wanted to jump out the car. It lasted maybe 5 mins but it was intense. Extremely scary. Can anyone relate?

Edited May 31, 2018 by Tina77

[cyclinglady]

54 minutes ago, Tina77 said:

I wanted to know if anyone has had a kind of psychotic episode that last for a few minutes after being glutened? My symptoms are getting worse due to the fact that I feel the gluten is messing with my head. I recently got glutened and the next day as I was in the car as a passenger I wanted to jump out the car. It lasted maybe 5 mins but it was intense. Extremely scary. Can anyone relate?

Have you been tested for celiac disease?  

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Are you taking any medications that could cause a side effect like this?  I am sure that experience was frightening.  I hope you are able to figure it out.  

[Ennis-TX]

4 hours ago, Tina77 said:

I wanted to know if anyone has had a kind of psychotic episode that last for a few minutes after being glutened? My symptoms are getting worse due to the fact that I feel the gluten is messing with my head. I recently got glutened and the next day as I was in the car as a passenger I wanted to jump out the car. It lasted maybe 5 mins but it was intense. Extremely scary. Can anyone relate?

Before diagnosis I used to get extreme brain fog with gluten, and my mind would loop, and not do things I wanted it to, thoughts would not move, I could not do something knowing I should be able to. This led to confusion and EXTREME bouts of anger out of the frustration sometimes punching walls or banging my head on the wall to make it work (attempt) Called it hyde mode, was scary as all hell when your own mind and body turn on you.

Gluten ataxia look it up was my symptom, it can be made worse with this disease if you are not absorbing enough B-vitamins, d, magnesium...look up the deficiency symptoms for these and see if it raises any flags.

[Tina77]

Thank you for responding. That makes sense I have not been good on taking my vitamins lately. Did you feel wierd when you took magnesium? I have tried taking magnesium and it makes me feel a little wierd. 

Edited May 31, 2018 by Tina77
I am new at this. Sorry.

[Tina77]

6 hours ago, cyclinglady said:

Have you been tested for celiac disease?  

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Are you taking any medications that could cause a side effect like this?  I am sure that experience was frightening.  I hope you are able to figure it out.  

Thank you for responding. I have and it came out negative but just the blood test. I have not done a biopsy. Its frustrating to find a doctor in Las Vegas that can understand but I am going to keep trying. I am not taking any medications at all. I know it has to do with at least being gluten intolerant. To be honest I haven't been really caring of cross contamination and maybe it has caught up with me. Thank you for the link.

2 hours ago, Ennis_TX said:

Before diagnosis I used to get extreme brain fog with gluten, and my mind would loop, and not do things I wanted it to, thoughts would not move, I could not do something knowing I should be able to. This led to confusion and EXTREME bouts of anger out of the frustration sometimes punching walls or banging my head on the wall to make it work (attempt) Called it hyde mode, was scary as all hell when your own mind and body turn on you.

Gluten ataxia look it up was my symptom, it can be made worse with this disease if you are not absorbing enough B-vitamins, d, magnesium...look up the deficiency symptoms for these and see if it raises any flags.

Thank you for responding. That makes sense I have not been good on taking my vitamins lately. Did you feel wierd when you took magnesium? I have tried taking magnesium and it makes me feel a little wierd. 

[Dwayne]

   Hello,

I am Dwayne (celiac since 1957).

This happens in some celiac children because of bad (pathogenic) intestinal flora toxins. These pathogenic toxins are acquired sometime even before birth.

These pathogenic toxins can effect anywhere in the body, brain, liver, kidneys,lungs,etc, 

The pathogenic toxins must be eliminated and replaced with good biotics (probiotics) flora.

The toxins can go to the brain and affect the brain and can cause severe behavior problems even autism.                                                                                                                 d fisher

The Doctor Below Has all the information on the subject.                                                                                  

Dr. Natasha Cambell-Mcbride,  Cambridge England

Master Of Medical Science In Neurology 

Master Of Science In Human Nutrition

SUGGESTION :  Open Original Shared Link

KEYWORD : GAPS : Gut And Psychology Syndrome

 

[ch88]

Are you sure that gluten caused the psychosis episode? A sudden psychotic episode can be caused by other medical problems so you should talk to a doctor about it.  There is also the Open Original Shared Link forum which is a good resource. It is possible for someone to develop schizophrenia at any time.

Gluten can cause panic attacks in some people and some people are more likely to have food sensitivities than other people. There is a link between digestive problems and anxiety or panic attacks. 

Autistic people are more likely to have digestive problems than normal.  Some people think that autistic people would do better on a wheat free diet. This has been tested though and they didn't find any improvement in general.  Also a study that I read found no statistically significant  correlation between celiac disease and autism. There are definitely exceptions though to this rule.

However, people with schizophrenia are much much more likely to be celiac than people without it. Other food sensitivities or allergies are strongly linked to schizophrenia. The ones that I have read about are corn, dairy, soy, sugar, caffeine and gluten. Another diet that removes all questionable ingredients is the AIP diet. 

There is medication that is available to treat different types of anxiety disorders.  I recommend talking to a doctor about your episode. 

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[Posterboy]

Tina77,

Where you by chance also taking Miralax? also known as Polyethylene Glycol.

This laxative can have terrible side effects one of them psychotic episodes.

Oneloved recently mentioned how her child was having a reaction to Miralax and why I mentioned it.

Psychotic episodes (especially rage) are more common in children but if it does that to children who knows what it does in adults.

Here is a FDA adverse event report on it.

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but they (FDA) say " as they often do "no action is necessary" as they often do until someone dies.

Polyethylene Glycol (PEG) 3350 over-the-counter oral laxative (Miralax)

Neuropsychiatric events

FDA decided that no action is necessary at this time based on available information.

***this is not medical advise but I hope this is helpful.

To answer you original question psychosis is common in celiac's.

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But it is unclear if it the celiac disease specifically or associated Vitamin deficiency that occur  when someone develop's celiac disease.

see this research as first posted by knitty kitty that indicates OCD can be an early sign of a B12 deficiency entitled "Obsessive Compulsive Disorder as Early Manifestation of B12 Deficiency"

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And B-12 and your B-complex in general are often low in Celiac's.

Again I hope this is  helpful. . . but this is not medical advice just some other places to look to see if they are also contributing to your pyschosis like the helpful link ch88 provided.  Along with gluten.

posterboy, (sorry for the hanging chad) I couldn't delete it.

[ch88]

A few other things that may be helpful include:

• Stress reduction techniques. There are some websites that offer helpful advice on the topic.
• Eating more fish as it is high in omega-3 fatty acids. 
• Glutamine powder (food for the gut)
• Eating lots of fruit and vegetables. Grapefruit, for example, has lots of inositol which may improve cognitive function. Fruit and veggies are high in flavinoids which are beneficial. 

[Tina77]

On 6/9/2018 at 7:51 AM, ch88 said:

Are you sure that gluten caused the psychosis episode? A sudden psychotic episode can be caused by other medical problems so you should talk to a doctor about it.  There is also the Open Original Shared Link forum which is a good resource. It is possible for someone to develop schizophrenia at any time.

Gluten can cause panic attacks in some people and some people are more likely to have food sensitivities than other people. There is a link between digestive problems and anxiety or panic attacks. 

Autistic people are more likely to have digestive problems than normal.  Some people think that autistic people would do better on a wheat free diet. This has been tested though and they didn't find any improvement in general.  Also a study that I read found no statistically significant  correlation between celiac disease and autism. There are definitely exceptions though to this rule.

However, people with schizophrenia are much much more likely to be celiac than people without it. Other food sensitivities or allergies are strongly linked to schizophrenia. The ones that I have read about are corn, dairy, soy, sugar, caffeine and gluten. Another diet that removes all questionable ingredients is the AIP diet. 

There is medication that is available to treat different types of anxiety disorders.  I recommend talking to a doctor about your episode. 

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Thank you for your response. I feel more like maybe I need to see a doc. I never knew this. 

[Tina77]

UPDATE:

First, I would like to thank everyone that took the time to respond. It means so much. I feel so alone in this especially because no one around me understands. I realized my gluten intolerance at age 33 so it's been 2 yrs. It's been really hard for me to adjust. I am so thankful to God for this forum.

It's been a couple of weeks since my psychotic episode and I feel way better. I have been trying really hard not to eat anything contaminated with gluten. Especially when eating out. I have been taking vitamin B complex and fish oil every day. I have not had another psychotic episode. Thank God! My anxiety and brain fog have diminished more and more each day. I really do believe  that it was the gluten messing with my neurological system. I feel like it was being exposed to a lot of gluten that led to that episode. During that time I had been exposed to a lot of gluten. Accidently of course. ?I will take everyone's advice to heart. Thank you again. Much Love Tina:)

[GFinDC]

Hi Tina,

It's great that you are feeling better!

Gluten ataxia could be the cause of your symptoms.  Gluten ataxia is when the immune system affects the brain after eating gluten.  It can even make white spots appear on the brain during an MRI.  Anyway, it's important to stay well away from gluten if you have gluten ataxia.  Eating out in restaurants would be a bad idea IMHO.