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LizO Rookie
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Good Morning,

I just got diagnosed with Celiac's have not even met with my Dr. he just sent me an email and said he would call on Thursday.  I have no symptoms whatsoever I was tested because I had a colonoscopy in which they did a biopsy because of "villous blunting and intraepithelial lymphocytes", they followed up with a blood test for confirmation.  My question is have others on this blog been diagnosed with Celiac's with no symptoms or reactions to gluten in their diet? Any suggestions as to where to start to get rid of gluten in my diet (it seems to be everywhere) and any helpful resources you can recommend?  Thanks, Liz 

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Me.  I had no GI symptoms at the time I was diagnosed.  I was shocked.  I did have anemia, but struggled with that all my life (my celiac-related anemia was always overlooked due to a genetic anemia).  I had just gone in for a routine colonoscopy (cancer screening for the over 50 club) and during my consult, my GI ordered a celiac blood panel and if positive (it was) and endoscopy too.  

It sounds like your GI biopsied the end of your small intestine.  

Read the “Newbie 101” post pinned at the top of  the “Coping” section of the forum which has a few books worth reading or buying, plus valuable tips.  

Welcome!  

pikakegirl Enthusiast
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Me too. No typical symptoms at all, not even anemia. Had lots of malnutrition symptoms and organ issues like kidney stones. Was obese with no serious GI effects. I Notice i no longer have sinus infections or congestion. My skin and hair are better as well as losing 90 lbs of obese weight. I had no idea how to cook healthy and started by buying gluten free processed food. Have read lots of nutrition books and now love my rice cooker and crockpot. I use my microwave to steam fresh veggies and bake sweet potatoes. Have found going organic gives me peace of mind but probably has nothing to do with gluten-free. It took a good 6 months for my blood work to be normal. If you have any thyroid issues watch your numbers as you heal. I needed less meds as it swung in opposite direction since my immune system backed down. Single ingredient foods. No sauces. I needed to go dairy and corn free as well. I use honey and cut out sugar. Fruit is my candy. I have never eaten this good in my life but i thought i had been healthy. I even reversed the arterial sclerosis i had built in my aorta from high cholesterol while undiagnosed. I think my diagnosis helped my health in many more ways than just going gluten-free.  Wish i had found this place sooner. Its wonderful. gluten-free since 2007.

LizO Rookie
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Thanks for the great comments, I am chronically anemic so I guess that was a sign but it never bothered me, Dr. informed me.  I guess I am lucky I don't have worse symptoms-as I said, I have not even been in to see the Doctor yet will talk on Thursday but have immediately stopped Gluten......never realized that there was gluten in so many things.....Yikes!  It is much healthier to eat this way so I am going to look at this positively as a way to be healthier and maybe lose those stubborn 30 pounds I have been unable to drop....This is just a shock to me as I had to look it up to see what it was.....Thanks for the welcome and the tip to check out the newbie post!  Liz

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