Jump to content
  • Welcome to Celiac.com!

    You have found your celiac tribe! Join us and ask questions in our forum, share your story, and connect with others.




  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A1):



    Celiac.com Sponsor (A1-M):


  • Get Celiac.com Updates:
    Support Our Content
    eNewsletter
    Donate

Is it too late? Celiac/coeliac UK


harry17

Recommended Posts

harry17 Newbie

So I'm 26 years old from the UK and for the last 4/5 years I have been having diarrhoea multiple times a week , constant pain in my stomach , my bones literally hurt just doing simple things like sitting down/walking around , going out the house or work is absolute hell because I could feel fine then within a few seconds I have this searing pain in my stomach then I have diarrhoea straight after.

Recently I've noticed the pain & diarrhoea has gotten a lot worse I'm having diarrhoea around 4/5 times a day with a fair but of blood in my stool. I can't even prepare dinner or breakfast because the sight of food/smell of cooking makes me start the hurl and brings me close to being sick every single time.

 

Over the last 4/5 years I've been told there is nothing wrong with me by doctors and my symptoms was because of poor diet and anxiety.

I had multiple blood tests , colonoscopy , put on countless medication & pain relief and because my GP/doctors have never been much help I've just lived with it , pushing through to pain and continuing to work full time never taking a sick day.

I had a blood test around 5 months ago and they said it was flagged for "celiac/coeliac" but I would have to see a specialist to get a certain diagnosis and I would receive a appointment "soon" and because 5 months later I've not heard anything flr the appointment I called the hospital to find out how long I will be waiting and they told me I'm on a waiting list and my appointment won't be for another 9months ???? Even though I've told them how much pain I'm in , the blood , the throwing up , the pain....... And they said I still have to wait.

 

So now I'm about lost on what to do😂I can honestly say I feel like I'm dying , my insides feel rotten and I am really really struggling to carry on (no this ain't a cry for help) I just feel so lost and have such a hard time finding happiness at the moment where I'm in so much pain and discomfort.

So my question is...

Are there anyone on here that are from the UK that have had similar issues to me and if there's any advice about my whole hospital appointment situation ?

Thanks in advance!


Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):
Celiac.com Sponsor (A8):



Celiac.com Sponsor (A8-M):



Scott Adams Grand Master

Welcome to the forum, and I'm sorry to hear about how badly your doing right now, and how unconcerned your doctor(s) seem to be (it might be time to get a new doctor!).

One of our moderators is @cristiana who is from the UK, and hopefully she can chime in here with more info about how you can break the medical gridlock you are facing.

Your story is very similar to mine, as I went through almost exactly the same thing at around the same age. 

The good news is that there are some things you can do now which may help you feel much better, for example go on a 100% gluten-free diet using info in the article below, and if you feel relief by doing so simply stay on it. I mean, it seems like you've tried you best to work with an overloaded medical system, but continuing to try to get a formal diagnosis may not even be necessary at this point--your health and recovery are the most important thing at the moment.

The next step would be to get a copy of any and all blood test results that were done for celiac disease. You should be privy to them, and if you can get those please share them here. I suspect that since they implied that you need a follow up with a specialist, presumably due to your results, that the answer may already lie in those results.

Last, keep on hassling the doctors--I'm not saying give up on them--and if they schedule more tests for celiac disease we are likely looking at an endoscopy to confirm a positive blood test, then you can simply eat a couple of slices of wheat bread for two weeks before that test (or not...if the diet works, perhaps you won't want to touch the stuff again!).

Last, keep a food diary to see if you can link any ongoing symptoms with things you are eating.

 

trents Grand Master
24 minutes ago, Scott Adams said:

 

You can also order a home celiac test kit from Imaware and others for about $100 US.

cristiana Veteran
(edited)

Hello Harry

I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner - I'm snowed under with other stuff at the moment so not on the board much, but I've asked Scott to let me know if anyone from the UK posts who needs help, so you are that first post (the system is working, @Scott Adams!)

I can relate to a lot of your issues and I am so sorry you are going through it too.  Before diagnosis I had blood in my stool.  In my own particular situation it was caused by a fissure caused by severe diarrhea, a situation exacerbated because my GP put me on a strong iron supplement which disagreed with me.  The bone pain I totally relate to as well, and burning stomach pain.

Unfortunately in the UK the NHS is overwhelmed, with Gastroenterology Departments playing catch up because of the various lockdowns.  So your wait is not, unfortunately, uncommon. 

But this may interest you - have a read, particularly para 4.

https://www.coeliac.org.uk/information-and-support/coeliac-disease/getting-diagnosed/

If you have a good relationship with your doctor, you may wish to chat to him/her about this and show him/her this link.  They may then be persuaded to follow this route i.e. if your antibodies were very high first time, and are with a repeat test, you might not need  to have an endoscopy.  

Also - if you are taking iron and you think, like me, it is worsening your symptoms, ask your GP for a gentler iron - like ferrous gluconate, or Floravital syrup which you can buy from Boots (don't by Floradix, it has gluten in it!)  And it might be worth trying to avoid dairy as a lot of coeliacs have issues with dairy until their guts heal - it made my diarrhea a lot worse, and even to this day it has a slightly laxative effect (sorry TMI!).

And one more thing -  I get gastritis if I am glutened (the sore stomach I mention).  I have no idea how common this is, but you may wish to look up a gastritis diet online, as it might be helpful to eat things that are gentler on your stomach.  

Although no-one would blame you for giving up gluten now, and forgetting about the testing, it is worth bearing in mind  in the UK there are benefits in getting medically diagnosed (and on this,  note Coeliac UK advise people not to go down the shop-bought kit diagnosis kit).   Because once you have that formal diagnosis, depending on your local health authority, you should get lifelong free access to an NHS dietician, DEXA bone Scans (osteoporisis can be an issue in coeliacs) and annual blood tests and monitoring.   

If you do have to wait 9 months, Scott's suggestion of coming off gluten for a while and then taking it up for two weeks prior to the endoscopy is another solution.  Bear in mind, though, that for another positive blood test if you have already given up gluten you will need to eat two slices of bread for about six weeks.

I guess there is one other route:  a private endoscopy.   It will hurry things up, but of course, it will be expensive. 

Sorry for the ramble, but hopefully something is of help. Do come back to me if you have any more questions.

Cristiana

 

Edited by cristiana
  • 2 weeks later...
Jackie Garrett Collaborator

Hello Harry

Your in the right place here with lots of good advice from people, when I discovered what was affecting me it was truly life changing and a huge relief, in my case it was Dairy and things that had Starter Cultures in, fermented things, I couldn’t tolerate acidic things so many of our drinks are acidic, I drink mainly water and herbal teas, honey and Lemon, Lemons are Alkalising, just keep your acids down, I would speak to a Dietitian for advice, Gluten and Dairy are so many peoples triggers, but don’t cut them out until you’ve been tested or your results will not be true, you may be ok with Dairy, I really wasn’t, and yes like Scott mentioned a food Diary is the way to go.  Maybe buy a cookbook on Alkalising food recipes. Good luck Harry, if the wait is too long maybe go private if you can.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A19):



  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      131,879
    • Most Online (within 30 mins)
      7,748

    Peta Dunn
    Newest Member
    Peta Dunn
    Joined

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A20):


  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      121.4k
    • Total Posts
      1m

  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A22):





  • Celiac.com Sponsor (A21):



  • Upcoming Events

  • Posts

    • cristiana
      Ferritin levels.  And see what your hemoglobin looks like too, that will tell you if you are anemic?  You can have 'low normal' levels that will not be flagged by blood tests.  I had 'low normal' levels, my lab reading was. c12, just over what was considered normal, but I had small benign lesion on my tongue, and sometimes a sore mouth, and a consultant maxillofacial ordered an iron infusion for me as he felt my levels were too low and if he  raised them to 40, it would help.   Because you are not feeling 100% it might be worth looking at your levels, then discussing with your doctor if they are low normal.  But I stress, don't supplement iron without your levels being monitored, too much is dangerous.
    • Mari
      Hi Katht -  I sympathize with your struggles in following a gluten-free diet and lifestyle. I found out that I had Celiac Disease a few months before I turned 70. I just turned 89 and it has taken me almost 20 years to attain a fairly normal intestinal  function. I also lost a lot of weight, down to 100 lb. down from about 140 lb. What Trents wrote you was very true for me. I am still elimination foods from my diet. One person suggested you keep a food diary and that is a good idea but it is probably best just to do an elimination diet. There are several ne and maybe one for celiacs. I used one for a while and started with plain rice and zucchini and then added back other foods to see if I reacted or not. That helped a great deal but what I did not realise that it would only very small amounts of some foods to cause inflammation in my intestine. Within the last few years I have stopped eating any trace amounts of hot peppers, corn and soy(mostly in supplements) and nuts, (the corn in Tylenol was giving me stomach aches and the nuts were causing foot pains). Starting an elimination diet with white rice is better than brown rice that has some natural toxins. In addition it is very important to drink sufficient plain water. You can find out how much to drink for your height and weight online. I do have difficulty drinking 48 ounces of water but just recently have found an electrolyte supplement that helps me stay well hydrated, Adding the water and electrolytes may reduce muscle cramps and gag spams you wrote about. . Also buy some anti-gluten enzyme capsules to take with meals. I use GliadinX advertised here. These are a lot of things to do at one time as they reflect my 20 years of experience. I hope you do what you can manage to do over time. Good luck and take care.
    • Colleen H
      Yes thyroid was tested.. negative  Iron ...I'm. Not sure ... Would that fall under red blood count?  If so I was ok  Thank you for the detailed response..☺️
    • Colleen H
      Hi all !! Did anyone ever get prescribed methylprednisone steroids for inflammation of stomach and intestines?  Did it work ??  Thank you !! 
    • cristiana
      Hi Colleen Are you supplementing B12/having injections? I have learned recently that sometimes when you start addressing a B12 deficiency, it can temporarily make your symptoms worse.  But it is important not to stop the treatment.  Regarding your problems with anxiety, again that is another symptom of a B12 deficiency.   I didn't know what anxiety was until it hit me like a train several months before gastrointestinal issues began, so I can certainly relate.   Two books which helped me hugely were At Last A Life by Paul David (there is a website you can look up) and The Depression Cure: The Six-Step Programme to Beat Depression Without Drugs by Dr Steve Llardi.  Although his book is aimed at people who have depression, following the principals he sets out was so helpful in lessening my anxiety.  Llardi suggests we need to focus on getting enough: - physical exercise - omega-3 fatty acids - natural sunlight exposure - restorative sleep - social connectedness - meaningful, engaging activity   ... and we should feel a lot better. That is not to stay you must stop taking medication for depression or anxiety if you have been prescribed it, but adopting the changes Dr Llardi sets out in the book should really help. Can I just ask two more questions:  1) you say that you are B12 deficient, did they test your iron levels too?  If not, you really ought to be checked for deficiency and, 2) did they check your thyroid function, as an overactive thyroid can be cause rapid heartbeat and a lot of coeliacs have thyroid issues? Cristiana        
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

NOTICE: This site places This site places cookies on your device (Cookie settings). on your device. Continued use is acceptance of our Terms of Use, and Privacy Policy.